Threads wont seem so long if you change the subject as necessary. Apologies to those whose mail clients dont support threading properly.
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Spyros Blanas wrote:
IMHO, this has gone too far. I mean, 20+ messages for what? For an "s"? Come on, you would all have fixed some bugs in the time it took to write all these e-mails. :-)
but complaining about he mails only adds more traffic, like long discussions about spam.
however I addressed several seperate issues in one mail which in part accounts for the length of the discussion.
Unfortunately until I brought up the issue the bug reports had received few if any comments and haven't received any additional comments since.
Having witnessed many discussions in the few months I am monitoring this list, it seems that UI is a hot issue.
This is a good thing, better to hammer out the issues here and write honest self aware release notes than gloss over flaws and wait until some reviewer bitches about it. Most projects claim to want feedback (many only really want patches though).
I am planning on working on a UI customizer (like OpenOffice and most KDE apps have) to allow a user to change the UI as he sees fit (adding extra menus, changing toolbars, changing shortcut keys).
Will be good to have.
I hope such functionality will make such issues easier to resolve and will actually lighten the burden on the devel team, so that it doesn't make permanent UI decisions (and gets the blame).
I dont think there was any question of blame but there is a tendency for whatever gets committed first to stick, the assumption being that whoever went before must have given it lots of thought.
Even then the question of good defaults remains and you still need to balance the needs of settings things up in a way that is friendly to beginners but without making it painful for more experienced users to set things up the way they prefer (think Firefox).
However, I am pretty busy for the next weeks and I will start looking into it after that. I can't guarantee anything, but judging from a very quick code sweep it certainly looks feasible.
Best of luck
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
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