On 1 June 2016 at 17:46, LucaDC <dicappello@...2144...> wrote:
Sebastian Zartner wrote
...by removing the option for relative changes...
WHAT?!? I didn't notice this, good you pointed out. Erm, well, I'll be explicit: don't even dare thinking to do something like this! This makes me think that you don't have a clear idea about some important use cases for guides. Really.
I missed to explain why. You can do relative changes by entering calculations into the fields just like in all the other value fields.
Sebastian Zartner wrote
...and the unit;
Why? Don't you think that they are there for a reason?
Because I believe it is better to keep to the general document's units. Or is there a reason to have the document in centimeters but use inches for the guides?
Now I fear that there are other decisions you took without making them explicit but I don't have time to x-ray your blueprint, sorry. I'll see how it goes on hoping that someone else will join the analysis to help. Be sure you're going to hear me if you break something. :)
After all, the blueprint is just a proposal and the goal is to improve the UI. And I started the discussion here to get a consensus on it. If there are reasonable objections against parts of it, I'll change them.
Please, before introducing the changes you're thinking about, let me invite you to go a bit more into the argument because I fear you don't have a picture clear enough to avoid missing some important points like the ones above. My opinion is that you're going to touch more points than intended for the main goal of your blueprint. Let me advise you to be careful.
Guides are a very very important tool for my workflow (and I suppose not only for mine) and if you break them... ;)
I also use guides very often and I intent to improve features and workflows.
On 1 June 2016 at 18:43, LucaDC <dicappello@...2144...> wrote:
Just a couple of other points I noticed in the blueprint.
I use a lighter page border color to easily distinguish it from the lines I draw. I definitely need an option to set it somewhere and it could be a program option for me (i.e. the same for all created or loaded documents) but I suppose that someone else may prefer having it per document.
Fixed. I didn't mean to change it. The current default is rgb(102, 102, 102).
I also find the page border shadow useful to easily spot the page rectangle when zooming out. Consider that I use Inkscape mostly for technical drawings so I have a lot of horizontal and vertical lines and 0° rectangles. IMHO the option to show or hide the page shadow, if any, should be near the one for the page border color.
My intention was to move all those options to the View menu, which was accepted by Martin and Brynn.
About the snapping options, they are clearly related to the use you make of grids and guides in each document: in some documents the grid could be just a reference (so snapping to grid should be secondary related to snapping to guides), in others the grid alignment could be a strict requirement so snapping to it should take precedence over anything else. This can be achieved adjusting the snapping distances.
The feature itself is clear to me. Though I still wonder whether that is actually something people use.
A different story are the two 'Miscellaneous' tangential and perpendicular checkboxes: they are there only because Diederik did not find a better place at the time he introduced them and nobody came back on them since then. IMHO those two may deserve a less hidden place in the main interface but I haven't spoke about this because there are other problems to solve before.
Sounds good to me to move them to the main interface.
On 1 June 2016 at 19:22, Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote:
I'm thinking that maybe an 'Advanced' settings part that can either be shown or not shown by clicking on a small arrow in the dialogs (maybe additionally based on a preference: 'Hide advanced options by default') could provide a solution for quite a few issues here, and make the dialogs easy for new users, while the others can just activate to always show those settings, and stay equally happy... ;)
It's not that the dialog is too crowded, it's just that some options may not be needed or belong to somewhere else.
Sebastian