Re: [Inkscape-devel] [UI] Rework Document Properties dialog
On 1 June 2016 at 17:46, LucaDC <dicappello@...2144...> wrote:
Sebastian Zartner wrote
> ...by removing the option for relative changes...
WHAT?!?
I didn't notice this, good you pointed out.
Erm, well, I'll be explicit: don't even dare thinking to do something like
this! This makes me think that you don't have a clear idea about some
important use cases for guides. Really.
I missed to explain why. You can do relative changes by entering
calculations into the fields just like in all the other value fields.
Sebastian Zartner wrote
> ...and the unit;
Why? Don't you think that they are there for a reason?
Because I believe it is better to keep to the general document's
units. Or is there a reason to have the document in centimeters but
use inches for the guides?
Now I fear that there
are other decisions you took without making them explicit but I don't have
time to x-ray your blueprint, sorry. I'll see how it goes on hoping that
someone else will join the analysis to help. Be sure you're going to hear me
if you break something. :)
After all, the blueprint is just a proposal and the goal is to improve
the UI. And I started the discussion here to get a consensus on it. If
there are reasonable objections against parts of it, I'll change them.
Please, before introducing the changes you're thinking about, let
me invite
you to go a bit more into the argument because I fear you don't have a
picture clear enough to avoid missing some important points like the ones
above.
My opinion is that you're going to touch more points than intended for the
main goal of your blueprint. Let me advise you to be careful.
Guides are a very very important tool for my workflow (and I suppose not
only for mine) and if you break them... ;)
I also use guides very often and I intent to improve features and workflows.
On 1 June 2016 at 18:43, LucaDC <dicappello@...2144...> wrote:
Just a couple of other points I noticed in the blueprint.
I use a lighter page border color to easily distinguish it from the lines I
draw. I definitely need an option to set it somewhere and it could be a
program option for me (i.e. the same for all created or loaded documents)
but I suppose that someone else may prefer having it per document.
Fixed. I didn't mean to change it. The current default is rgb(102, 102, 102).
I also find the page border shadow useful to easily spot the page
rectangle
when zooming out.
Consider that I use Inkscape mostly for technical drawings so I have a lot
of horizontal and vertical lines and 0° rectangles.
IMHO the option to show or hide the page shadow, if any, should be near the
one for the page border color.
My intention was to move all those options to the View menu, which was
accepted by Martin and Brynn.
About the snapping options, they are clearly related to the use you
make of
grids and guides in each document: in some documents the grid could be just
a reference (so snapping to grid should be secondary related to snapping to
guides), in others the grid alignment could be a strict requirement so
snapping to it should take precedence over anything else. This can be
achieved adjusting the snapping distances.
The feature itself is clear to me. Though I still wonder whether that
is actually something people use.
A different story are the two 'Miscellaneous' tangential and
perpendicular
checkboxes: they are there only because Diederik did not find a better place
at the time he introduced them and nobody came back on them since then. IMHO
those two may deserve a less hidden place in the main interface but I
haven't spoke about this because there are other problems to solve before.
Sounds good to me to move them to the main interface.
On 1 June 2016 at 19:22, Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote:
I'm thinking that maybe an 'Advanced' settings part that
can either be
shown or not shown by clicking on a small arrow in the dialogs (maybe
additionally based on a preference: 'Hide advanced options by default')
could provide a solution for quite a few issues here, and make the
dialogs easy for new users, while the others can just activate to always
show those settings, and stay equally happy... ;)
It's not that the dialog is too crowded, it's just that some options
may not be needed or belong to somewhere else.
Sebastian