I think the HOME/PGUP/PGDOWN/END is a fabulous idea for object arrangement. IT IS SUCH AN IMPROVEMENT OVER OTHER VECTOR APPS. I HOPE WE KEEP IT. SAME WITH THE SCROLL KEYS. Maybe the HIG is incorrect in spots :)
Also, Ahorkana, why don't you dig in, or provide some patches?
Jon
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 16:24, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, bulia byak wrote:
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:08:56 +0000 From: bulia byak <archiver_1@...19...> To: horkana@...44... Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: Inkscape minor changes I'd like before the next release (if acceptable)
On most of the keyboards I have seen the right Alt key is labelled AltGr (which as far as I can remember is short for Alternative Graphic which is a holdover from back in the days of machines like the Commodore 64 where holding down AltGr and a letter would print a graphical symbol).
I tried using them, lots of crashing http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=887327&grou...
Thanks for reporting, that crash is now fixed in CVS.
No. Arrows are for moving. Rotation is different and needs different
keys.
How about using Ctrl+R for rotation through 90 degrees? (I use that a whole lot more often than the small rotations anyway). Ctrl+R is currently used by Show Rulers and only becuase I cannot think of anything better I'd suggest using Ctrl+Shift+R for Show Rulers because at least then it would be the same as the GIMP.
It's a bit awkward physically, but it's very easy mentally. It's easy to understand the logic behind these shortcuts and therefore to remember them. Try to invent another system where you can scale/rotate both handles or any single one of them, with two different speeds. Without using left/right alt trick, these keys will likely occupy half of your keyboard and will be impossible to remember.
Panning must not depend on whether there is a selection.
I dont understand. Can you explain why?
Because I may want to pan regardless of any selection, of course!
You might want to, you dont sound all that certain. If only I had the Page up page Down keys to Scroll/Pan! ;)
I've just noticed that the Up and Down Arrow Keys currently Zoom in and Out (when used without any modifier keys) and I would have expected them to be available for Panning when nothing was selected.
I'd think that Up and Down would be best not used for Zooming.
For Zooming it would be better to just have Zoom In + (and also =) as well as Ctrl++ (and Ctrl+=) Zoom Out - as well as Ctrl+- (the use of both + and = is to avoid the nasty differences between QWERTY and AZERTY keyboards) and with Zoom having this generous selection of shorcuts
I'd love to poke and prod inkscape for longer but I've got to go (but I might quickly respond to another mail or two before I go).
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
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