On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Johan Engelen <jbc.engelen@...2592...> wrote:
On 15-6-2012 19:33, Josh Andler wrote:
Okay...
Well, this issue clearly demonstrates the danger of the bus factor. We have one rather experienced packager on OSX who has been unavailable. We also have ~suv, who wants to learn more about it (has proposed modifications and questions) but the "mentor" in this situation has been unavailable in that context as well. Hopefully at some point Michael can write in-depth on the wiki about making the super-awesome packages and how to set up a build machine akin to the one he had which I believe died on him.
As the Release Warden I am very torn in this situation. In the past there has been community backlash when we've announced a release and packages have been unavailable for a specific platform. They effectively feel like they're second class citizens. Knowing this, I really feel like I need to hold a hard line about not making any announcement. However, given that this is an open and community project, as well as at this point a substantial amount of time has passed, I'm putting it up to a vote.
This vote applies only to core contributors (devs, translators,& bug
mavens) and will be open for 1 week.
Option 1: Do nothing until we can get proper packages for OSX. Option 2: Do not make announcements and quietly update links where possible. Option 3: Make announcements and apologize and explain why we have left out a group of our users.
Please do take into consideration that for Option 3, if you do not help users daily (whether via IRC, forums, twitter, or various other methods) you are putting others on the front line for to deal with upset users. However, it may also lessen their burden of having to repeatedly tell users in bug reports that their bug is fixed and where to get the update. (please think of ~suv and others)
Option 2 or 3. I don't care about announcements. But please fix the links. It is ridiculous that 0.48.2 still has so many Windows downloads every day.
It's fun to delay a release for a couple of days to align release on all platforms, but four months is clearly not fun anymore. The way I see it, technically we have temporarily dropped support for Mac. I think it's not bad to have people realize that we are a volunteer project, and without volunteers, nothing happens.
Thanks, Johan
I'd vote 2 right away, then 3 pretty darn soon if we really cant get the mac package sorted.