El dom, 08-03-2015 a las 16:01 -0400, Martin Owens escribió:
On Sun, 2015-03-08 at 16:28 -0300, Gez wrote:
it's just matter of getting used to it.
As designers of interfaces, we can not let ourselves fall into the
trap
of thinking our users 'can just get used to it'.
If you take that line out of context, of course. But that's not what I meant to say. So let me rephrase it: The change implemented by GIMP devs doesn't match your expectations. You expect that the save command does a certain thing but it doesn't. The reason why you expect what you expect from the save command is not the result of a careful interaction design that dictates that the best route is to stuff all the possible output formats in a single command, but your previous experience with programs that do that. That's what I meant you should get used to.
Part of the research arm is working out workflows. Our users will always invest in getting around our poor designs when they have to, but we should be on the lookout for such things before they ship.
And that's what Peter Sikking did while he was involved in the GIMP project, as far as I know. The save/export separation was the result of a research, and the distinction between those functions was what they considered the best way to provide a saner workflow and reduce the accidental destruction of data. From my vantage as a user, it worked. Can it be improved? Maybe, but despite the negative reaction of a portion of its user base, the new GIMP UI enforces a workflow where it's harder to screw hours of work on a complex file by accident. That meant that some simpler workflows had to be modified slightly. And yes, I do think that invoking a different command and learning a different keystroke is a minor annoyance that users can get used to and the problem just fades away once they do.
A lot of what I see in this thread are people choosing what seems like the more logical setup. But what is logically pure might not be good
for
human interaction. That's why we must test.
I agree that we must test and that the result has to come from a careful research of what works and what doesn't. Please, don't get me wrong: even though I don't agree with your perception of the impact that separating save and export had in GIMP I really do agree on that any decision taken regarding user interaction should be *designed* and not chosen just because of what others do or what users are used to.
Gez.