On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 13:36 +0000, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Jon Phillips wrote:
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:51:44 -0800 From: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> To: John Taber <jtaber@...480...> Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...>, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Mitchell Baker mentions SVG in Mozilla
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 16:11 -0700, John Taber wrote:
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 14:04, Alan Horkan wrote:
Nothing to see here, move along please.
I would disagree - since SVG support is very important to us in the SVG community and if the Mozilla team is holding it back, then the question becomes what can we do to encourage them along. Answer:
Sorry for my pessimism but I don't want developers to underestimate the importantance of proper release builds that users can have some measure of confidence in. "Release early release often" means a lot more than providing CVS access or nightly builds (although that is helpful) proper release builds are needed too.
I can certainly agree that pro-active approach would be much more productive. I dont want to sound too much like I'm volunteering though so I try to be very careful about making such suggestions myself.
- Promote (and yes I mean stick a link right on the home page of Inkscape)
the use of a beta version with SVG amongst the SVG community to help the Mozilla team flush out SVG bugs (this is what I meant by promoting an
I think we should promote all browsers that support SVG, perhaps even ranking them by whichever we consider best (presumably IE would get a low score for requiring the Adobe SVG plugin).
Agree...
I tend to agree with you, but I also don't want to anger moz svg and moz ppl. in general by seeming too radical in bent. I think that we should
I think the Inkscape community has enough smart people to call us out if we are being too radical and check we are being polite enough not to hurt our own cause (good management includes telling people when they are out of line, I'm surprised though how little that is needed here as the development culture is already very accepting of change).
True...
promote SVG more than we are currently. Right now we basically using SVG as a file format for illustration/drawing and are not capitalizing on it as a dynamic/interactive major web format. Imagine surfing all SVG web pages! We really need to think about how we are emphasizing SVG. I'm open to more suggestions.
Some sort of "Save for Web" even a Web Preview that wraps an SVG in a small amoutn of XHTML and opens a browser might be helpful here.
This is a really good idea. Could you file an RFE against this. This is a great idea, even though you don't need to wrap SVG in html to get it to work. I think though that would help get across the concept that these are for web. Personally, I think our export should expand to also export jpg, tiff, and svg in html....
I think one good approach would be to develop a strategy between Openclipart.org, Inkscape and mozilla svg to support SVG in the browser. This could take the form of some web buttons/banners and a page
I'm not sure a browser specific push in necessarily the best way to go, I think we should promote the browsers that are best for SVG.
Agree...don't want to be biased towards specific browsers, but rather implementation. In fact, if IE came out with full SVG support, I would be pretty supportive of that browser.
supporting adoption. This could be housed either on Openclipart.org or Inkscape.org. Do you know how to edit our webpage? Are there any volunteers to push this? Look at how Firefox has the spreadfirefox.org...why don't you start something like spreadsvg.org !
spreadsvg.org? I think you misspelled openclipart.org ;)
OOps...
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