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Thanks, Bryce
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 09:14:52AM +0100, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:
You got some things completely wrong, as usual. Perhaps you should try to read texts carefully before hurling insults at other people.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 12:18 PM, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:
Would you mind being specific?
- "Inkscape erweist sich als extrem leistungsfähig und bietet
erstaunliche Funktionen, die man in der kommerziellen Konkurrenz vergeblich suchen wird, nicht zuletzt, weil sie patentiert sind und nur in Open-Source-Projekten ohne Lizenzgebühren eingesetzt werden dürfen."
What Inkscape features are patented in proprietary software?
It is the other way around: Some Inkscape features are patented (does Spiro ring a bell?) but free for use in Open Source projects. They cannot be used in proprietary software without a licence. That's what the article says.
- "unerwartete Probleme unter Windows und Mac OS X je nach
Upgrade-Status nicht auszuschliessen waren."
Expect the unexpected?
Read the Inkscape 0.92 release notes.
- "Ansonsten bleibt Inkscape-Interessenten unter Linux und OS X
derzeit nur das Kompilieren von Hand, was angesichts der unzähligen Abhängigkeiten schnell zu einem Albtraum werden kann."
'sudo apt-get build-dep inkscape' takes care about most of them.
First of all, not every Linux user is using Ubuntu. Second, this wasn't a real criticism. I only explained that the switch to CMake and new dependencies may result in no version at all for stable distributions or a delay. Moreover, the article was written weeks ago, because "Publisher" is a printed magazine. The online version will be made available once the subscribers have been served their print edition. If you were a professional journalist, you'd know about the delay between a deadline and the final print-run.
- "Ebenso zu begrüssen wäre die Anpassung an die CSS3-Konventionen,
wenn die Entwickler diese nicht so sorglos durchgeführt hätten. Inkscape 0.92 führt attraktive SVG-Elemente in der Hoffnung ein, dass sie dereinst in den SVG-Standard übernommen werden, tut dies aber ohne jede Garantie. Es werden ausserdem CSS3-Elemente eingeführt, von denen die Entwickler genau wissen, dass sie derzeit von keinem Browser unterstützt werden."
How much do you _actually_ know about the situation with SVG2? In particular, how much do you know about the rule where features need a few implementaton instances before they can make it to the standard?
Hint: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/is-svg-2-really-on-life-support
I know enough about the SVG standard and the relevant procedures. That doesn't devalue my major criticism: SVGs created with some of the new features cannot be reliably used outside Inkscape. Users can't expect to export them successfully to Illustrator or CorelDraw for a pre-press preparation, and neither can web designers expect to use 0.92 reliably for web graphics, unless they forego all new features.
- "Inkscape 0.92 bietet erfreulicherweise eine längst überfällige
Funktion, nämlich die Darstellung des Dokuments in einem Objektbaum.
The XML Editor in Inkscape has been providing that feature for years. The Objects dialog is just an easier UI for end-users.
A non-sequitur. I know about the XML editor, but that's totally beside the point. Professional vector designers don't read and write code, you know? The new object tree would be absolutely great, but the tree window is so small that it diminishes its usability, and it cannot be resized. *That's* the issue here.
- "die Entwickler ignorieren noch immer die Anforderungen des Druckgewerbes"
Developers don't ignore that. It's in the roadmap. You of all the people should know what limitations Cairo imposes on software with regards to CMYK and spot colors.
I, "of all people", know that the Cairo developers have rejected patches for CMYK and spot colour support, because they're not interested, which means that using Cairo for PDF export isn't going anywhere with respect to professional printing and PDF/X support. There are other solutions available, e.g. Ghostscript.
- "Es bleibt schleierhaft, was sich die Inkscape-Entwickler mit
dieser Veröffentlichung gedacht haben, die kaum jemandem, der professionell mit Vektorgrafiken arbeitet, wirklich nutzt."
Yeah, if "professional use of vector graphics" == "CMYK exporting", then you are right. Except it's not.
See my comments above: Inkscape 0.92 SVGs can only be reliably displayed in this version and no other software. You need to export a bitmap to get all the visuals in other programmes.
- "Angesichts dieser enttäuschenden Veröffentlichung steht zu hoffen,
dass das Inkscape-Team sich in der nächsten Version anstatt auf neuen Feature-Zauber endlich auf die verlässliche Ausgabe für verschiedene Medien, inklusive PDF/X, besinnt."
The roadmap is open for everyone. You are welcome to study it.
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Roadmap#Inkscape_0.93_.7E_Maintenanc...
In my experience, Inkscape developers are quite open to answering questions from the press and doing fact-checking. I encourage you to make use of that in your future endeavors.
As to your questioning of my professional integrity as a journalist, I suggest you take a deep look in the mirror. I'm on record with this list, describing issues graphics professionals have with the programme and proposing solutions. Moreover, as a professional, I need to know what my readers need to know. The readership doesn't comprise developers or nerds, but people who need to get their work done, most of the time under enormous pressure and overwhelmingly self-employed. And here's where Inkscape 0.92 comes short. Your nitpicking doesn't change anything here.
If you were a real journalist and not just a blogger you'd probably also be aware of 1) deadlines, 2) limitations on text size and 3) knowledge of your target audience.
Alex, frankly, I'm really fed up with your arrogance, your rudeness, your superficial pedantry and your total lack of manners. People like you are one of the reasons that make it hard to "sell" Open Source software to open-minded professionals who want to escape Adobe's clutches and who also may decide to help projects like Inkscape. Why don't you just go away and leave civilised people alone?
Christoph
Alex
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