Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Inskape 0.48pre1 - Error message when saving as wmf
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Igor Novikov <igor.e.novikov@...400...> wrote:
From other side a lot of win32 users ask us "Why you announce XXX feature but i have not this in Inkscape?".
Those who watch UC announcements are an entirely different class of people, who can easily be told to install anything :)
We cannot synchronize our project development cycles, it's normally.
Having to wait a few months for the new version wins easily over than having to install anything extra, for most people. Sad but true.
External UniConvertor installation is a best solution because current bundle updating is a task rather for programmer than for conventional user/designer.
OK, so can we perhaps automatically install UC externally (not into Inkscape) when Inkscape is installed? To get the best of both worlds?
As a simple solution we can provide for users an Inkscape-0.48-with-UniConvertor.zip archive with Inkscape installer, UniConvertor MSI and small REAME file inside.
Yes, that would be perfect, but only if it's an EXE, and the MSI is automatically installed when you run it, so that no one has to read the README :)
Another valuable reason is planned preferences for translation. We are going provide a lot of translation options (we already have the code but we still not expose it as a command line options) and naturally such preferences could be managed better from GUI than command line. So we will add preferences dialogs for each format into UniConvertor. It's not an easy task so for Inkscape team will be better utilizing ready dialogs from UniConvertor than creating the same but on Inkscape side. And as I have wrote UniConvertor translation progress dialog would be also a good additional feature for Inkscape.
Sounds great, but I don't see why this must force any extra work on the user. Can we have both this and a one-click Inkscape+UC install, regardless of how UC is actually installed (separate, bundled, whatever, so long as it works with Inkscape)?
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:39 -0300, bulia byak wrote:
OK, so can we perhaps automatically install UC externally (not into Inkscape) when Inkscape is installed? To get the best of both worlds?
This is the best solution, provided our installer launches something like a silent UC installer (installers that visibly launch other installers are a nightmare w/ end users from my IT work... average users get confused and frustrated easily).
Chris, do you know enough NSIS-fu to be able to achieve something like this? (that and are you able to possibly look into this anytime soon?)
Side note, UC externally is awesome for context-menu goodness. It gives normal people the magic of something like cli power for simple format conversion without opening Inkscape.
Cheers, Josh
Here is a link on NSIS wiki how to embed installers:
http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Embedding_other_installers
Also when Inkscape release is scheduled? i.e. how much time we have for fixing and testing? May be we can preparing UniConvertor 1.1.6 for better integration with Inkscape 0.48
Regards,
Igor Novikov sK1 Project http://sk1project.org
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Joshua A. Andler <scislac@...400...> wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:39 -0300, bulia byak wrote:
OK, so can we perhaps automatically install UC externally (not into Inkscape) when Inkscape is installed? To get the best of both worlds?
This is the best solution, provided our installer launches something like a silent UC installer (installers that visibly launch other installers are a nightmare w/ end users from my IT work... average users get confused and frustrated easily).
Chris, do you know enough NSIS-fu to be able to achieve something like this? (that and are you able to possibly look into this anytime soon?)
Side note, UC externally is awesome for context-menu goodness. It gives normal people the magic of something like cli power for simple format conversion without opening Inkscape.
Cheers, Josh
No firm release date... we were hoping to branch tomorrow, have one more pre, and if no new issues are found hopefully release next Friday. If this work can be actively done and not drag out, I would be willing to delay two weeks... however, I really wouldn't want to go further than that though. BTW, thank you for that link. I will check it out.
Cheers, Josh
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 22:12 +0300, Igor Novikov wrote:
Here is a link on NSIS wiki how to embed installers:
http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Embedding_other_installers
Also when Inkscape release is scheduled? i.e. how much time we have for fixing and testing? May be we can preparing UniConvertor 1.1.6 for better integration with Inkscape 0.48
Regards,
Igor Novikov sK1 Project http://sk1project.org
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Joshua A. Andler <scislac@...400...> wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:39 -0300, bulia byak wrote: > OK, so can we perhaps automatically install UC externally (not into > Inkscape) when Inkscape is installed? To get the best of both worlds?
This is the best solution, provided our installer launches something like a silent UC installer (installers that visibly launch other installers are a nightmare w/ end users from my IT work... average users get confused and frustrated easily). Chris, do you know enough NSIS-fu to be able to achieve something like this? (that and are you able to possibly look into this anytime soon?) Side note, UC externally is awesome for context-menu goodness. It gives normal people the magic of something like cli power for simple format conversion without opening Inkscape. Cheers, Josh
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