Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from 0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands the creative range of the tool.
-- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org
Hello!
On 3/30/06, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from 0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands the creative range of the tool.
Sounds neat! Do you have a screenshot for that?
Greetings!
Daniel Díaz yosoy@...31...
On 3/30/06, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from 0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands the creative range of the tool.
On 3/30/06, Daniel Díaz <mrchapp@...400...> wrote:
Sounds neat! Do you have a screenshot for that?
We definitely need a good, big, complex, stunning screenshot for the web site demonstrating what can be drawn with Calligraphic, with or without pressure sensitivity and tremor. But I'm not that much of an artist to do it all by myself. Artists needed! :)
If you don't want to do the entire screenshot, but if you have any interesting, neat, or funny drawings or sketches (no matter how small) made with Calligraphic pen, please send me the SVGs. When I have enough good ones, I will assemble/compose them into a screenshot with full credit to the original authors.
Oh, and if you have any SVGs or screenshots of the other recently added stuff, it's welcome too. I hereby open the 0.44 Screenshots Season! :)
-- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org
bulia byak wrote:
On 3/30/06, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from 0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands the creative range of the tool.
This tremor stuff is wicked cool! Only tried with mouse so far, so I can't wait to get home to try with the tablet.
On 3/30/06, Daniel Díaz <mrchapp@...400...> wrote:
Sounds neat! Do you have a screenshot for that?
We definitely need a good, big, complex, stunning screenshot for the web site demonstrating what can be drawn with Calligraphic, with or without pressure sensitivity and tremor. But I'm not that much of an artist to do it all by myself. Artists needed! :)
I'm willing to do it. I think that for an updated calligraphy screenshot we'd benefit to have half the screenshot drawn with tablet, the other with just a mouse (labeled accordingly). That way people can see what can be done with each. I've actually been playing with the calligraphy tool a bit at home recently just to get really "inky" results. I know I can definitely do some interesting and fun stuff, but if you want actual calligraphy we're probably better off finding someone with better penmanship for that part.
Shall we update the Calligraphy tutorial as well to reflect the new parameter?
Oh, and if you have any SVGs or screenshots of the other recently added stuff, it's welcome too. I hereby open the 0.44 Screenshots Season! :)
Does this mean I can whip up the Gaze - Outline View one, or should I still wait? This one is cake since the document exists and it's a quick view toggle and screencap, so if there are any potential UI changes that I should wait on it's all good.
-Josh
On 3/30/06, Joshua A. Andler <joshua@...533...> wrote:
We definitely need a good, big, complex, stunning screenshot for the web site demonstrating what can be drawn with Calligraphic, with or without pressure sensitivity and tremor. But I'm not that much of an artist to do it all by myself. Artists needed! :)
I'm willing to do it. I think that for an updated calligraphy screenshot we'd benefit to have half the screenshot drawn with tablet, the other with just a mouse (labeled accordingly).
Yes, or just 2 screenshots :)
That way people can see what can be done with each. I've actually been playing with the calligraphy tool a bit at home recently just to get really "inky" results. I know I can definitely do some interesting and fun stuff, but if you want actual calligraphy we're probably better off finding someone with better penmanship for that part.
We already have an old one on calligraphy proper (i.e. letter-writing). Now I think we need to cover drawing, not writing with that tool.
Shall we update the Calligraphy tutorial as well to reflect the new parameter?
Sure.
Does this mean I can whip up the Gaze - Outline View one, or should I still wait? This one is cake since the document exists and it's a quick view toggle and screencap, so if there are any potential UI changes that I should wait on it's all good.
I think we can create and start filling the 0.44 screenshots page, and your screenshot can be first :) The only reservation with regard to UI is that I'd like the shots to not show the docked palette, because of the size issue and menu button issue that Jon Cruz has not fixed yet. When and if these are fixed, we'll do a separate screenshot showing the palette.
-- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org
bulia byak wrote:
I'm willing to do it. I think that for an updated calligraphy screenshot we'd benefit to have half the screenshot drawn with tablet, the other with just a mouse (labeled accordingly).
Yes, or just 2 screenshots :)
I'll see what I can come up with. :)
We already have an old one on calligraphy proper (i.e. letter-writing). Now I think we need to cover drawing, not writing with that tool.
That's what I thought but wanted to make sure I didn't run with an assumption.
Does this mean I can whip up the Gaze - Outline View one, or should I still wait? This one is cake since the document exists and it's a quick view toggle and screencap, so if there are any potential UI changes that I should wait on it's all good.
I think we can create and start filling the 0.44 screenshots page, and your screenshot can be first :) The only reservation with regard to UI is that I'd like the shots to not show the docked palette, because of the size issue and menu button issue that Jon Cruz has not fixed yet. When and if these are fixed, we'll do a separate screenshot showing the palette.
Palette is hidden. Here she is for the outline view, we may want to re-save as a jpeg *shudder* due to size as it's 1.6megs... and I'll probably regret posting this link ;) http://www.scislac.com/inkscape/inkscape-0.44-view-outline.png
Is there anything else you would like this to show or anything you'd like for me to change? Any additional info you want/need?
-Josh
bulia byak wrote:
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the Calligraphy tool in this version.
I know I already said it was wicked cool, and even thanked you on Jabber last night... but I'm having a great time working on the screenshots and I feel compelled to say THANK YOU again! It's just that good. :)
-Josh
On 3/30/06, Joshua A. Andler <joshua@...533...> wrote:
http://www.scislac.com/inkscape/inkscape-0.44-view-outline.png
I'd prefer it to show the open View menu and Mode submenu, to demonstrate the feature. Other than that it looks good.
In your blurb, you can give a link to the full color rendering and/or SVG, boast about the number of objects in it, etc. :) Make it entertaining and informative.
Will you be willing to coordinate the 0.44 screenshots page - request and communicate with authors, upload files, write (or help authors write) blurbs etc? I did this last times but I'm afraid I won't have as much free time this time.
If you agree to take this on, please use pngcrush on the PNG files you upload (use PNG, not JPG, even if it's larger). To create thumbnails, I used:
convert -geometry 267 <name>.png <name>_thumb.png
I think you have permissions to edit the web site pages; if not let me know.
-- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org
bulia byak wrote:
On 3/30/06, Joshua A. Andler <joshua@...533...> wrote:
http://www.scislac.com/inkscape/inkscape-0.44-view-outline.png
I'd prefer it to show the open View menu and Mode submenu, to demonstrate the feature. Other than that it looks good.
In your blurb, you can give a link to the full color rendering and/or SVG, boast about the number of objects in it, etc. :) Make it entertaining and informative.
Will do!
Will you be willing to coordinate the 0.44 screenshots page - request and communicate with authors, upload files, write (or help authors write) blurbs etc? I did this last times but I'm afraid I won't have as much free time this time.
Sure. :)
If you agree to take this on, please use pngcrush on the PNG files you upload (use PNG, not JPG, even if it's larger). To create thumbnails, I used:
convert -geometry 267 <name>.png <name>_thumb.png
I think you have permissions to edit the web site pages; if not let me know.
Ah, never used pngcrush before, I'll be able to check it out early next week (wrapping things up today for a weekend trip). I should have permissions with the web site stuff, I've edited around the site before.
I'm also trying to make note of all the tutorial updates I know we'll need, so please tell me what I should also add to this list. I will start working on these next week, so over the next couple weeks you will see the commits start trickling in.
Basic - Add information about the Current Style widgets and how to use them. I also didn't see mention of "unset" or patterns in there for fill types, should those be added with basic info? Basic/Advanced - Whichever has info about Align & Distribute, add information about Remove Overlaps. Calligraphy - Add information and examples for Tremor. Advanced - Add information about Bezier Dragging to the node editing section. Tracing - Add instructions and information about SIOX. unsure - ClipPaths and Masks, do they merit their own tutorial? Or should I put a small blurb and examples of each in Basic or Advanced? unsure - Does Clones merit it's own tutorial? I think that the clone tiler alone could have a tutorial, but I don't particularly have a preference. unsure - Should we start an Effects tutorial since they will be on by default on win32 in the next release? misc - update anything that shows the interface or icons to reflect any changes.
You know, looking back on all this... should we perhaps (ask permission) and look into including Tavmjong Bah's - A Guide to Inkscape in the next release? Tutorials can truly be tutorials, and purely informational stuff would just be in the main documentation. What are the thoughts on this?
-Josh
Lo all,
LGM was good for us, but it is sure that users have often to few examples of what can be done with the functionnalities. i'm aiming to work on that with Inkscape as i did for Scribus : http://www.le-radar.com/articles/scribus/pdf/ReleaseNote133.pdf .But it's evident i won't be able to illustrate all new stuffs. May be we should add a page on the wiki for that. But anyone can contact me directly. If i could be informed of releases some days before, it could help.
Cedric (pygmee)
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
unsure - Should we start an Effects tutorial since they will be on by default on win32 in the next release?
Well, if you're willing to write one, yes! :)
I'm working on adding "help" support into the individual effects, so that they can be self documenting. I think that is a better approach overall, but I wasn't thinking it would be "tutorial style". Having interactive tutorials for the 'big' effects would probably be good. I should probably think about allowing individual tutorials... hmm...
--Ted
ted@...11... wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
unsure - Should we start an Effects tutorial since they will be on by default on win32 in the next release?
Well, if you're willing to write one, yes! :)
I'm working on adding "help" support into the individual effects, so that they can be self documenting.
Tell me more. :-)
Aaron Spike
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Aaron Spike wrote:
I'm working on adding "help" support into the individual effects, so that they can be self documenting.
Tell me more. :-)
:) Well, it isn't really complete enough for an announcement. The idea is to just put a tag in the INX file which can include help information. I already have a button on the preferences dialog and a tab in the extension editor, but there isn't any text in that tab yet.
--Ted
ted@...11... wrote:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Aaron Spike wrote:
I'm working on adding "help" support into the individual effects, so that they can be self documenting.
Tell me more. :-)
:) Well, it isn't really complete enough for an announcement. The idea is to just put a tag in the INX file which can include help information. I already have a button on the preferences dialog and a tab in the extension editor, but there isn't any text in that tab yet.
What is an extension editor? There is a button in the Inkscape preferences dialog?
I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui dialogs we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on, since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
Aaron Spike
On 4/15/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote:
I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui dialogs we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on, since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
Not quite - I just tried latest build on WinXP and all I got was this:
The inkex.py module requires PyXML. Please download the latest version from http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/.
So looks like we must also include PyXML in the windows builds somehow, if we want effects to work out of the box (and we DO want it, I hope :)
-- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org
bulia byak wrote:
On 4/15/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote:
I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui dialogs we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on, since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
Not quite - I just tried latest build on WinXP and all I got was this:
The inkex.py module requires PyXML. Please download the latest version from http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/.
So looks like we must also include PyXML in the windows builds somehow, if we want effects to work out of the box (and we DO want it, I hope :)
Could I please have the url of the build you just tried?
Aaron Spike
On 4/15/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote:
Could I please have the url of the build you just tried?
http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/Inkscape0604141337.zip
-- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org
On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 17:47 -0500, Aaron Spike wrote:
What is an extension editor? There is a button in the Inkscape preferences dialog?
Well, there will be an option in the help menu. It is currently commented out in the menu skeleton, as the dialog isn't polished enough for public consumption. But, you're welcome to uncomment it if you'd like to see what I'm thinking. Don't blame me if it formats your hard drive and burns down your house :)
I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui dialogs we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on, since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
I'm working on that currently. Basically finishing off the preferences so that they can be used for the path effects also. That is one of the features that I'm adding also. Depending on schedule, it is highly likely that'll be in for 0.44.
--Ted
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