12:10 a.m.
On 6/11/06, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Of these, we have some at >80% already. The ones in Inkscape that
are
not at 80% are:
bg, en_CA, en_GB, fi, nb, ne, nl, pl, pt, pr_BR, ru, sk, sr, sv, uk, vi
It appears that you were looking at HEAD, not 2.14. And all figures
are different. For instance, GNOME 2.14 is 99,86% translated into
Russian.
Alexandre
2:46 a.m.
New subject: [Inkscape-tester] New translations we need?
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 07:10:19PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On 6/11/06, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> Of these, we have some at >80% already. The ones in Inkscape that are
> not at 80% are:
>
> bg, en_CA, en_GB, fi, nb, ne, nl, pl, pt, pr_BR, ru, sk, sr, sv, uk, vi
It appears that you were looking at HEAD, not 2.14. And all figures
are different. For instance, GNOME 2.14 is 99,86% translated into
Russian.
Ah, yes, I figured comparisons from their HEAD to our HEAD would be most
meaningful, although I'm sure it could be argued differently...
This weekend I got a couple contacts for Japanese and three Indian
languages. :-)
Bryce
3:37 a.m.
New subject: [Inkscape-tester] New translations we need?
Ah, yes, I figured comparisons from their HEAD to our HEAD would be
most
meaningful, although I'm sure it could be argued differently...
This weekend I got a couple contacts for Japanese and three Indian
languages. :-)
Found those 2 organizions of translators today :
http://www.indlinux.org/
http://www.panl10n.net/
and will try to contact them tonight.
Plus i'm trying to find a volunteer for pt (portuguese) translation
(pt_BR is in a quite good shape, and I don't know if Brazilian
Portuguese is very different from Portuguese) : Portuguese is a
lonaguage spoken also in some places in Africa and Asia (formal
colonies).
Regards,
matiphas
4:18 a.m.
New subject: [Inkscape-tester] New translations we need?
On 6/12/06, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> It appears that you were looking at HEAD, not 2.14. And all
figures
> are different. For instance, GNOME 2.14 is 99,86% translated into
> Russian.
Ah, yes, I figured comparisons from their HEAD to our HEAD would be most
meaningful, although I'm sure it could be argued differently...
Translation of GNOME into Russian happens this way: closer to release
we start bugging translators with requests for updates. As for 2.14,
we also announced local gnome-cyr(illic) Love Day and managed to get
even more new and updated translations. There is no such day for
Inkscape :)
Overall, translation process looks close, if not equal: some
translators use SVN on daily basis and send updates periodically, some
use releases only and therefore do updates after strings freeze.
Since Inkscape's strings freeze is already announced for 2 weeks or
so, comparison should rather be made to GNOME 2.14 than to HEAD ;)
Alexandre
8 a.m.
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Matiphas wrote:
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:37:26 +0200
From: Matiphas <matiphas@...8...>
To: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...>
Cc: Inkscape Devs ML <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>,
Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-tester] New translations we need?
> Ah, yes, I figured comparisons from their HEAD to our HEAD would be most
> meaningful, although I'm sure it could be argued differently...
>
> This weekend I got a couple contacts for Japanese and three Indian
> languages. :-)
Found those 2 organizions of translators today :
http://www.indlinux.org/
http://www.panl10n.net/
and will try to contact them tonight.
Plus i'm trying to find a volunteer for pt (portuguese) translation
(pt_BR is in a quite good shape, and I don't know if Brazilian
Portuguese is very different from Portuguese)
I've been told before that they were quite different but in the limited
context of Vector Graphics Software chances are good the differences will
be only small differences especially if the translators are willing to
collobarte and push for consistency.
Portuguese is a lonaguage spoken also in some places in Africa and
Asia
(formal colonies).
(former colonies)
Keeping the language formal should increase the chances of it being
reusable and reduce the chances of accidentally include slang or other
terminology that doesn't travel well. So long as there is an
understanding in place that we want to avoid any non-essential differences
things can probably be kept fairly consistent within the language
dialects.
--
Alan H.
8:49 a.m.
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On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 08:37:26PM +0200, Matiphas wrote:
> Ah, yes, I figured comparisons from their HEAD to our HEAD would be most
> meaningful, although I'm sure it could be argued differently...
>
> This weekend I got a couple contacts for Japanese and three Indian
> languages. :-)
Found those 2 organizions of translators today :
http://www.indlinux.org/
http://www.panl10n.net/
and will try to contact them tonight.
Excellent! Let us know how discussions with these two groups turn out.
Bryce
9:18 a.m.
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Matiphas <matiphas@...8...> writes:
Found those 2 organizions of translators today :
http://www.indlinux.org/
http://www.panl10n.net/
and will try to contact them tonight.
Maybe also check with http://www.arabeyes.org/project.php?proj=GNOME
Cheers,
Colin
6:59 p.m.
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On 12/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...> wrote:
On 6/11/06, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> Of these, we have some at >80% already. The ones in Inkscape that are
> not at 80% are:
>
> bg, en_CA, en_GB, fi, nb, ne, nl, pl, pt, pr_BR, ru, sk, sr, sv, uk, vi
Apologies if I missed the beginning of this thread or I am out of
place, but is there really a deficiency in en_GB translations? If so,
there cannot be a good reason for this as there are plenty of
Inkscapers in Albion.
See http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=13030849&forum...
where your prompting may have resulted in some action
Also, can anyone confirm that the tool poedit is worthwhile for one
doing translations - I am part way through porting it to Mac OS, and
stopped through having doubts that poedit was important enough to
spend time on ...
Are we looking for just a little more effort to finish this? I would
be happy to put that effort in. On the other hand, translations into
non-English, non-FIGS languages would seem to be of greater benefit to
the community, and I wouldn't want to divert translation efforts.
Ben.
8 a.m.
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:59:49AM +0100, Ben Fowler wrote:
On 12/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine
<alexandre.prokoudine@...400...> wrote:
> On 6/11/06, Bryce Harrington wrote:
>
> > Of these, we have some at >80% already. The ones in Inkscape that are
> > not at 80% are:
> >
> > bg, en_CA, en_GB, fi, nb, ne, nl, pl, pt, pr_BR, ru, sk, sr, sv, uk, vi
Apologies if I missed the beginning of this thread or I am out of
place, but is there really a deficiency in en_GB translations? If so,
there cannot be a good reason for this as there are plenty of
Inkscapers in Albion.
The above list was generated by looking at what translations GNOME had
at 50% or greater, and en_CA and en_GB were there. I thought it'd make
a good goal to have Inkscape get >80% translations for the same set of
languages that GNOME has the best support for. I was surprised too that
en_CA and en_GB showed up there; I assume they ranked high due to it
being relatively easy to do them, compared with going from English to a
non-English language.
Bryce
4:40 p.m.
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On 20/06/06, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:59:49AM +0100, Ben Fowler wrote:
> On 12/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...> wrote:
> > On 6/11/06, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > > Of these, we have some at >80% already. The ones in Inkscape that are
> > > not at 80% are:
> > >
> > > bg, en_CA, en_GB, fi, nb, ne, nl, pl, pt, pr_BR, ru, sk, sr, sv, uk, vi
>
> Apologies if I missed the beginning of this thread or I am out of
> place, but is there really a deficiency in en_GB translations? If so,
> there cannot be a good reason for this as there are plenty of
> Inkscapers in Albion.
The above list was generated by looking at what translations GNOME had
at 50% or greater, and en_CA and en_GB were there. I thought it'd make
a good goal to have Inkscape get >80% translations for the same set of
languages that GNOME has the best support for. I was surprised too that
en_CA and en_GB showed up there; I assume they ranked high due to it
being relatively easy to do them, compared with going from English to a
non-English language.
Thank you, I had to read that twice before I grasped it. GNOME is
reporting on GNOME translations, not on Inkscape translations. At the
moment, Inkscape's en_GB is arguably at 0% as there is no en_GB.po
file.
Assuming that this file is needed, there are three possibilities: 1)
There is a volunteer who has made contact with one of the regulars on
the translators list; 2) I can start the ball rolling by copying the
inkscape.pot file to en_GB.po and adding it to the tracker, if this is
not premature and 3) I can cajole the Huddersfield Linux User group
into maintaining this file. Obviously (1) has priority, but I think
that partial and exploratory translations are considered helpful as
stepping stones.
I looked at a version of inkscape.pot of a few weeks ago, and it had
2175 entries, so my admiration for the work of the translation teams
which was already high is increased by my seeing the magnitude and
repetitive nature of the task. Personally, I feel that if an en_GB
translation is welcomed, then we should see to it that it is done very
speedily, as it would be ridiculous for an English to English
translation to take a significant amount of time, wouldn't it?
Ben
5:33 p.m.
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Assuming that this file is needed, there are three possibilities: 1)
There is a volunteer who has made contact with one of the regulars on
the translators list;
I think it is the case.
Kinsley Turner has started (and even finished) this job.
Regards,
matiphas
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