Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
Hi team,
I was not sure as where I was supposed to open this discussion (or question) of mine.
I was just wondering... I do know that it takes a lot of time, and money, and then more time, and probably a lot of revisions... but do you guys think we can try to aim making something similar to this? https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/designer/workbook/
This is a hard copy, printed, material that Affinity Designer, from the Serif company, sell. I confess I don't have a copy of this material (yet) as it seems it only exists, officially, in the printed version... but I saw some samples and was really inspired and eager to check if we could do something on our own more or less of the same kind.
We could try to use the Scribus to achieve such results.. and some open fonts (from Google and Adobe) and try to assemble 4 - 6 different big learning areas inside this Inkscape Activity Book.
They could be:
1. Creating isometric graphics, (there is a super sweet plugin that works wonderfully in Inkscape 0.91.2) 2. Vectorizing simple photos, 3. creating logos (or recreating famous ones (not sure this is allowed)), there are multiple AMAZING examples of this on Nick Saporito Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w) 4. UX-UI design to create webpage (or mobile apps) mockups.
I know it is a lot of work. But we could try doing a smaller and simpler version of it to see how it goes.
It would help us gather more money to the Inkscape project and follow, more or less, the model of Krita (they have a paid support option and some books to sell as well) and Blender (they have a store with multiple long and detailed tutorials on how to do things in videos (DVDs)).
Just wondering... I know this might be asking too much... but I plan to be involved in this. Even if we have time for only 1 or 2 modules. It would be amazing to craft such material and spread it to the community (paid or free).
--Victor Westmann
I'd love to quit my job and just do docs. :) Unfortunately, that's what it would probably take to get docs going to the extent we'd like. It's been discussed before, but never gone anywhere because of lack of time/hands involved.
Yes, we should use Scribus to do it. In fact, it should probably be a github project to attract contributors. This way we can patch what needs to be patched when stuff changes in subsequent releases. -C
On 28 Apr 2017 07:17, "Victor Westmann" <victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi team,
I was not sure as where I was supposed to open this discussion (or question) of mine.
I was just wondering... I do know that it takes a lot of time, and money, and then more time, and probably a lot of revisions... but do you guys think we can try to aim making something similar to this? https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/designer/workbook/
This is a hard copy, printed, material that Affinity Designer, from the Serif company, sell. I confess I don't have a copy of this material (yet) as it seems it only exists, officially, in the printed version... but I saw some samples and was really inspired and eager to check if we could do something on our own more or less of the same kind.
We could try to use the Scribus to achieve such results.. and some open fonts (from Google and Adobe) and try to assemble 4 - 6 different big learning areas inside this Inkscape Activity Book.
They could be:
- Creating isometric graphics, (there is a super sweet plugin that works
wonderfully in Inkscape 0.91.2) 2. Vectorizing simple photos, 3. creating logos (or recreating famous ones (not sure this is allowed)), there are multiple AMAZING examples of this on Nick Saporito Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w) 4. UX-UI design to create webpage (or mobile apps) mockups.
I know it is a lot of work. But we could try doing a smaller and simpler version of it to see how it goes.
It would help us gather more money to the Inkscape project and follow, more or less, the model of Krita (they have a paid support option and some books to sell as well) and Blender (they have a store with multiple long and detailed tutorials on how to do things in videos (DVDs)).
Just wondering... I know this might be asking too much... but I plan to be involved in this. Even if we have time for only 1 or 2 modules. It would be amazing to craft such material and spread it to the community (paid or free).
--Victor Westmann
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On Fri, 2017-04-28 at 12:39 +0100, C R wrote:
I'd love to quit my job and just do docs. :) Unfortunately, that's what it would probably take to get docs going to the extent we'd like. It's been discussed before, but never gone anywhere because of lack of time/hands involved.
Yes, we should use Scribus to do it. In fact, it should probably be a github project to attract contributors. This way we can patch what needs to be patched when stuff changes in subsequent releases.
Sounds like you have a solid step one Chris.
Here's the inkscape-docs group on gitlab, EVERYONE should join, there should be a button to join:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape-docs
And here's the new book/manual/docs project where files can be put:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/manuals
I recommend using the wiki attached to the project to plan the adventure slowly. Add a bit at a time and don't rush to have something "complete" but have something small produced.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Already subscribed to the doc project on Gitlab.
Sorry guys. I know I do am asking for a LOT... but it never hurts to gather opinions from others as well.
Cheers,
--Victor Westmann
2017-04-28 7:14 GMT-07:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...>:
On Fri, 2017-04-28 at 12:39 +0100, C R wrote:
I'd love to quit my job and just do docs. :) Unfortunately, that's what it would probably take to get docs going to the extent we'd like. It's been discussed before, but never gone anywhere because of lack of time/hands involved.
Yes, we should use Scribus to do it. In fact, it should probably be a github project to attract contributors. This way we can patch what needs to be patched when stuff changes in subsequent releases.
Sounds like you have a solid step one Chris.
Here's the inkscape-docs group on gitlab, EVERYONE should join, there should be a button to join:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape-docs
And here's the new book/manual/docs project where files can be put:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/manuals
I recommend using the wiki attached to the project to plan the adventure slowly. Add a bit at a time and don't rush to have something "complete" but have something small produced.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Hi Everyone,
On 2017 Apr 27 23:16:00, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi team,
I was not sure as where I was supposed to open this discussion (or question) of mine.
I was just wondering... I do know that it takes a lot of time, and money, and then more time, and probably a lot of revisions... but do you guys think we can try to aim making something similar to this? https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/designer/workbook/
This is a hard copy, printed, material that Affinity Designer, from the Serif company, sell. I confess I don't have a copy of this material (yet) as it seems it only exists, officially, in the printed version... but I saw some samples and was really inspired and eager to check if we could do something on our own more or less of the same kind.
We could try to use the Scribus to achieve such results.. and some open fonts (from Google and Adobe) and try to assemble 4 - 6 different big learning areas inside this Inkscape Activity Book.
Something similar that comes to my mind from Krita project is a book from Scott Petrovic called Digital painting with Krita 2.9 here is the link for it -> https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Painting-KRITA-2-9-Masterpiece/dp/0996851704/
I know this took a considerable energy and time for Scott to write this book, but it is a fine example of a reference book. So it is safe to say that the task is hard but it can be done :)
I know that we have a wiki (http://wiki.inkscape.org), but in my opinion it is not structured and presented properly. The krita wiki (docs.krita.org) had the same problem and they decided to refresh the design and content of the wiki to make it more user freindly and integrate it into krita branding.
I suggest, if currently an inkscape book is not possible, we should atleast refresh or restructure our wiki, may be integrate it with the Learn section of the website we can include chapters and topics like a proper books format and it can be a goto place of information for newbies and experts alike. We should also ask the community for making this possible. Later when someone is willing to do a book they can utilise the wiki and write a book based on that rather than starting from scratch.
Thank you
On Fri, 2017-04-28 at 17:57 +0530, Raghavendra Kamath wrote:
I know that we have a wiki (http://wiki.inkscape.org), but in my opinion it is not structured and presented properly. The krita wiki (docs.krita.org) had the same problem and they decided to refresh the design and content of the wiki to make it more user freindly and integrate it into krita branding.
The wiki is for development, while the website is focused on user content.
That's not a great dividing line if you're happy to contribute to a wiki but are intimidated by a website cms.
So see my previous message about the inkscape-docs team project 'manuals' it has a wiki attached which can be used to draft ideas and organise small sections of work.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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