
I'd like to propose two things regarding the Inkscape web site. Volunteers are welcome:
1 Create an RSS feed for the main page news.
2 Create a new header graphic to replace the boring white "Inkscape" on blue. As a graphic app, we are starting to deserve something more sophisticated. The web site itself is OK, I don't think we need to drastically change the entire design (although suggestions are welcome), but the top panel is decidedly dull and pathetic. Show off your graphic talent! Send your submissions to the devel list for people to discuss. The best one (if the winner is not obvious, we may need to do a voting) will make it to the site. One technical note: the banner cannot be fixed width, because our site is not fixed width - so it must be either one piece for the top left corner or two pieces for two corners, with some flat color fill between them. The minimum screen resolution is 800x600.

Quoting bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...>:
The minimum screen resolution is 800x600.
;-(
sniff, sniff...
My poor old Sidekick is only 240 x 160
But more seriously, even though my screen resolution is 1152x864 at the moment, I generally have my browser windows at a 'portrait' layout, and thus smaller. At the moment the last one I was using is 759 x 815, and that's without subtracting for the borders, scrollbar, etc.
Though 800x600 is probably a good 'best at' target, it'd be even better if the header could handle different sizes easily.
http://www.linux.com is an example of good header layout. Important things are in important places, and it's got lots of pretty graphics, but it still works well for my default narrower size and for full-screen.

bulia byak wrote:
I'd like to propose two things regarding the Inkscape web site. Volunteers are welcome:
1 Create an RSS feed for the main page news.
I'll take the rss feed work on...not too hard...you can assign it to me...
2 Create a new header graphic to replace the boring white "Inkscape" on blue. As a graphic app, we are starting to deserve something more sophisticated. The web site itself is OK, I don't think we need to drastically change the entire design (although suggestions are welcome), but the top panel is decidedly dull and pathetic. Show off your graphic talent! Send your submissions to the devel list for people to discuss. The best one (if the winner is not obvious, we may need to do a voting) will make it to the site. One technical note: the banner cannot be fixed width, because our site is not fixed width - so it must be either one piece for the top left corner or two pieces for two corners, with some flat color fill between them. The minimum screen resolution is 800x600.
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 19:27:50 -0400, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
I'd like to propose two things regarding the Inkscape web site. Volunteers are welcome:
1 Create an RSS feed for the main page news.
2 Create a new header graphic to replace the boring white "Inkscape" on blue. As a graphic app, we are starting to deserve something more sophisticated. The web site itself is OK, I don't think we need to drastically change the entire design (although suggestions are welcome), but the top panel is decidedly dull and pathetic. Show off your graphic talent! Send your submissions to the devel list for people to discuss. The best one (if the winner is not obvious, we may need to do a voting) will make it to the site. One technical note: the banner cannot be fixed width, because our site is not fixed width - so it must be either one piece for the top left corner or two pieces for two corners, with some flat color fill between them. The minimum screen resolution is 800x600.
Sweet I'll have a go

bulia byak wrote:
I'd like to propose two things regarding the Inkscape web site. Volunteers are welcome:
1 Create an RSS feed for the main page news.
2 Create a new header graphic to replace the boring white "Inkscape" on blue. As a graphic app, we are starting to deserve something more sophisticated. The web site itself is OK, I don't think we need to drastically change the entire design (although suggestions are welcome), but the top panel is decidedly dull and pathetic. Show off your graphic talent! Send your submissions to the devel list for people to discuss. The best one (if the winner is not obvious, we may need to do a voting) will make it to the site. One technical note: the banner cannot be fixed width, because our site is not fixed width - so it must be either one piece for the top left corner or two pieces for two corners, with some flat color fill between them. The minimum screen resolution is 800x600.
It seems a shame that a project with "scalable" in the name needs to worry about pixel resolution! ;-)
How about this: Since the main page is not static but php, it can deliver the logo dynamically. Maybe it could read the Accept: header, and for those browsers that can handle svg natively, show the original svg drawing. We do participate in a bit of svg advocacy, after all. Who knows.... within a year, a large percentage of the browsers that hit the site might be like that.
Bob

How is the new section done at the moment? Looking in the CVS it looks like it is manually updated, but maybe there is a script that does it?
If not, it may be worthwhile considering implementing some form of CMS, which would not only make it way easier to update, but would also come with RSS feeds included (most likely). I'd be happy to implement it if you're interested. The one I'd recommend is WordPress, which I have on my own site too. Whilst it is primarily a blogging application, it can be very, very easily used in a "news" situation too. It comes with a selection of RSS feeds, and XHTML + CSS standards compliance.
Jon
bulia byak wrote:
I'd like to propose two things regarding the Inkscape web site. Volunteers are welcome:
1 Create an RSS feed for the main page news.

Jonathan Leighton wrote:
How is the new section done at the moment? Looking in the CVS it looks like it is manually updated, but maybe there is a script that does it?
If not, it may be worthwhile considering implementing some form of CMS, which would not only make it way easier to update, but would also come with RSS feeds included (most likely). I'd be happy to implement it if you're interested. The one I'd recommend is WordPress, which I have on my own site too. Whilst it is primarily a blogging application, it can be very, very easily used in a "news" situation too. It comes with a selection of RSS feeds, and XHTML + CSS standards compliance.
Actually, I just started a simple news poster for the site. I'm not sure if we could maintain something like CMS in addition to developing Inkscape. I started buildig a basic user management system for the Open Clip Art Library with user/pass login, etc, and realized it could be simply used to add/edit news from the site, as well as build rss feeds.
Also, I had just planend to transform the news to RSS feed when the site is updated and/or the news is posted to.
I would like to setup a planet (like, planet.gnome.org), but for the OSS creative developers (dev. who work on gimp, scribus, inkscape, ocal, etc), so maybe you could help me pull that together? I think that Inkscape is getting to the point as well where it could have its own aggregration of developer's RSS feeds to something like planet.inkscape.org. I just don't want to put too much work on our heads ;)
Immediately though:
1.) I'm getting the simple poster + RSS transformer done.
2.) Would like to get the larger planet site of OSS creative developers onto a page at freedesktop.org. Yes, finally...
bulia byak wrote:
I'd like to propose two things regarding the Inkscape web site. Volunteers are welcome:
1 Create an RSS feed for the main page news.

Jon Phillips wrote:
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
How is the new section done at the moment? Looking in the CVS it looks like it is manually updated, but maybe there is a script that does it?
If not, it may be worthwhile considering implementing some form of CMS, which would not only make it way easier to update, but would also come with RSS feeds included (most likely). I'd be happy to implement it if you're interested. The one I'd recommend is WordPress, which I have on my own site too. Whilst it is primarily a blogging application, it can be very, very easily used in a "news" situation too. It comes with a selection of RSS feeds, and XHTML + CSS standards compliance.
Actually, I just started a simple news poster for the site. I'm not sure if we could maintain something like CMS in addition to developing Inkscape. I started buildig a basic user management system for the Open Clip Art Library with user/pass login, etc, and realized it could be simply used to add/edit news from the site, as well as build rss feeds.
Also, I had just planend to transform the news to RSS feed when the site is updated and/or the news is posted to.
My idea was to use WordPress for *just* the news stuff, not the whole site, so it would not take long to get going.
I see two (main) advantages of using it:
1) The news would be easier to update -- you just fill in a form in the admin interface and the details are handled by WordPress. 2) It would automatically mean that a range of RSS feeds are available.
There would be little or no maintenance involved really -- it would take you or I probably an hour or so to implement and then that would be it. The only time maintenance might be required is when WordPress is updated.
I realise if you have already put a lot of work into the current system then maybe it's not something worth pursuing, but I think it should at least be considered.
I would like to setup a planet (like, planet.gnome.org), but for the OSS creative developers (dev. who work on gimp, scribus, inkscape, ocal, etc), so maybe you could help me pull that together? I think that Inkscape is getting to the point as well where it could have its own aggregration of developer's RSS feeds to something like planet.inkscape.org. I just don't want to put too much work on our heads ;)
Yes, that sounds like a very good idea. I'd like to help you with this.

Sounds good. I set up a small "news" area on a friend's site with Wordpress on a typical el-cheapo LAMP box. It was very easy and has a fairly professional appearance.
Bob
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Jon Phillips wrote:
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
How is the new section done at the moment? Looking in the CVS it looks like it is manually updated, but maybe there is a script that does it?
If not, it may be worthwhile considering implementing some form of CMS, which would not only make it way easier to update, but would also come with RSS feeds included (most likely). I'd be happy to implement it if you're interested. The one I'd recommend is WordPress, which I have on my own site too. Whilst it is primarily a blogging application, it can be very, very easily used in a "news" situation too. It comes with a selection of RSS feeds, and XHTML + CSS standards compliance.
Actually, I just started a simple news poster for the site. I'm not sure if we could maintain something like CMS in addition to developing Inkscape. I started buildig a basic user management system for the Open Clip Art Library with user/pass login, etc, and realized it could be simply used to add/edit news from the site, as well as build rss feeds.
Also, I had just planend to transform the news to RSS feed when the site is updated and/or the news is posted to.
My idea was to use WordPress for *just* the news stuff, not the whole site, so it would not take long to get going.
I see two (main) advantages of using it:
- The news would be easier to update -- you just fill in a form in
the admin interface and the details are handled by WordPress. 2) It would automatically mean that a range of RSS feeds are available.
There would be little or no maintenance involved really -- it would take you or I probably an hour or so to implement and then that would be it. The only time maintenance might be required is when WordPress is updated.
I realise if you have already put a lot of work into the current system then maybe it's not something worth pursuing, but I think it should at least be considered.
I would like to setup a planet (like, planet.gnome.org), but for the OSS creative developers (dev. who work on gimp, scribus, inkscape, ocal, etc), so maybe you could help me pull that together? I think that Inkscape is getting to the point as well where it could have its own aggregration of developer's RSS feeds to something like planet.inkscape.org. I just don't want to put too much work on our heads ;)
Yes, that sounds like a very good idea. I'd like to help you with this.

Bob Jamison wrote:
Sounds good. I set up a small "news" area on a friend's site with Wordpress on a typical el-cheapo LAMP box. It was very easy and has a fairly professional appearance.
What's some other peoples take on switching the news page to WordPress or Movable Type?
Also, how hard is it to match up the design to the current site? Or rather maybe update the current site to match a new clean design with letterpress?
I don't want to duplicate effort and definitely don't want to reinvent the wheel. However, we have a good habit in Inkscape of not using tech. that will be hard to update/alter in the future. However, I see the benefits of having this available with the feeds, searchability, and so on in the near future (esp. as these feed specs change). Also, we could have an admin password like we have with the wiki, that several of the developers could have so that news posting doesn't die.
More thoughts from others?
Jon
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Jon Phillips wrote:
Jonathan Leighton wrote:
How is the new section done at the moment? Looking in the CVS it looks like it is manually updated, but maybe there is a script that does it?
If not, it may be worthwhile considering implementing some form of CMS, which would not only make it way easier to update, but would also come with RSS feeds included (most likely). I'd be happy to implement it if you're interested. The one I'd recommend is WordPress, which I have on my own site too. Whilst it is primarily a blogging application, it can be very, very easily used in a "news" situation too. It comes with a selection of RSS feeds, and XHTML + CSS standards compliance.
Actually, I just started a simple news poster for the site. I'm not sure if we could maintain something like CMS in addition to developing Inkscape. I started buildig a basic user management system for the Open Clip Art Library with user/pass login, etc, and realized it could be simply used to add/edit news from the site, as well as build rss feeds.
Also, I had just planend to transform the news to RSS feed when the site is updated and/or the news is posted to.
My idea was to use WordPress for *just* the news stuff, not the whole site, so it would not take long to get going.
I see two (main) advantages of using it:
- The news would be easier to update -- you just fill in a form in
the admin interface and the details are handled by WordPress. 2) It would automatically mean that a range of RSS feeds are available.
There would be little or no maintenance involved really -- it would take you or I probably an hour or so to implement and then that would be it. The only time maintenance might be required is when WordPress is updated.
I realise if you have already put a lot of work into the current system then maybe it's not something worth pursuing, but I think it should at least be considered.
I would like to setup a planet (like, planet.gnome.org), but for the OSS creative developers (dev. who work on gimp, scribus, inkscape, ocal, etc), so maybe you could help me pull that together? I think that Inkscape is getting to the point as well where it could have its own aggregration of developer's RSS feeds to something like planet.inkscape.org. I just don't want to put too much work on our heads ;)
Yes, that sounds like a very good idea. I'd like to help you with this.
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Quoting Jon Phillips <jon@...235...>:
What's some other peoples take on switching the news page to WordPress or Movable Type?
Strongly in favor, though I would prefer that we stuck with fully Open Source solutions (that means WordPress, I think).
Also, how hard is it to match up the design to the current site?
It shouldn't be too hard to get something relatively close. I'd rather not do a major overhaul of the site appearance just because of a change in the backend.
-mental

Jon Phillips wrote:
Bob Jamison wrote:
Sounds good. I set up a small "news" area on a friend's site with Wordpress on a typical el-cheapo LAMP box. It was very easy and has a fairly professional appearance.
What's some other peoples take on switching the news page to WordPress or Movable Type?
Also, how hard is it to match up the design to the current site? Or rather maybe update the current site to match a new clean design with letterpress?
I don't want to duplicate effort and definitely don't want to reinvent the wheel. However, we have a good habit in Inkscape of not using tech. that will be hard to update/alter in the future. However, I see the benefits of having this available with the feeds, searchability, and so on in the near future (esp. as these feed specs change). Also, we could have an admin password like we have with the wiki, that several of the developers could have so that news posting doesn't die.
More thoughts from others?
Jon
Well, with <div> or <iframe> or whatever is best/most compatible, we can serve different parts of the same page from different engines. So we don't have to replace -everything-, just the parts we want. Also, I think apache 2 has filters by default, which could do the same thing.
Bob

On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:03:12PM -0800, Jon Phillips wrote:
Bob Jamison wrote:
Sounds good. I set up a small "news" area on a friend's site with Wordpress on a typical el-cheapo LAMP box. It was very easy and has a fairly professional appearance.
What's some other peoples take on switching the news page to WordPress or Movable Type?
More thoughts from others?
Well, as far as I know, I'm the only person who regularly updates the news, although a couple people also contribute periodically. I don't find the current process very hard, but if a different system will result in more people putting news items in, that would be a good thing. Having an RSS feed would be nice, too. On the other hand, if it's more difficult to use and the current news posters stop keeping the site updated, then that could be a pretty bad outcome.
Bryce

Bryce Harrington wrote:
Well, as far as I know, I'm the only person who regularly updates the news, although a couple people also contribute periodically. I don't find the current process very hard, but if a different system will result in more people putting news items in, that would be a good thing. Having an RSS feed would be nice, too. On the other hand, if it's more difficult to use and the current news posters stop keeping the site updated, then that could be a pretty bad outcome.
In terms of other people contributing, we could set up a system where the default account level allows people to write articles, but not to publish them. Then people who have admin privileges could publish the post if they think it's suitable. This would mean that we can open it up so that anyone is free to submit a post, which would -- hopefully -- increase the number of posts made.
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Bob Jamison
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bulia byak
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