I missed the discussion of this new option but, honestly, I don't understand it from the tooltip and the Release Notes (which I edited some, but still).
What is "current working directory"? For an average Windows user this does not make much sense I guess. They just click icons. Can you explain it in more functional terms?
The tooltip explains what happens for previously saved or not saved documents. But both these are for this checkbox on, right? What if it is off?
On 5/10/09 08:17, bulia byak wrote:
I missed the discussion of this new option but, honestly, I don't understand it from the tooltip and the Release Notes (which I edited some, but still).
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/30951/focus=30970 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/30951/focus=31463
What is "current working directory"? For an average Windows user this does not make much sense I guess. They just click icons. Can you explain it in more functional terms?
"current working directory" is the folder where the currently opened document is stored.
checkbox _on_: (simulating the behavior of previous Inkscape versions) the 'Save as...' dialog opens with the location of the currently opened document.
The tooltip explains what happens for previously saved or not saved documents. But both these are for this checkbox on, right? What if it is off?
checkbox _off_: the 'Save as...' dialog now always opens with the 'last used for saving a document' location.
Tooltip first version: 'When on, the "Save As ..." dialog uses the current working directory for saving (in case the file was already saved before so that this notion makes sense). Otherwise, the most recent "Save As ..." directory is used.'
Tooltip current version: 'The "Save As ..." dialog uses the current working directory for saving (if the file was previously saved). If not previously saved, the most recent "Save As ..." directory is used.'
Still confusing?
hth, ~suv
Tooltip current version: 'The "Save As ..." dialog uses the current working directory for saving (if the file was previously saved). If not previously saved, the most recent "Save As ..." directory is used.'
Still confusing?
Yes. What does it mean "if not previously saved" and "the most recent "Save as..." directory"? The previous version was more clear. Moreover, specifying the behavior when the user didn't use 'Save as...' yet is unnecessary. It's logical that it will open in the current working directory, and this information is not relevant to the choice of enabling or disabling this option.
Better version of the tooltip:
"When this option is on, the "Save as..." dialog will always open in the directory where the currently open document is. When it's off, it will open in the directory where you last saved a file using that dialog."
Regards, Krzysztof
2009/10/5 Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...400...>:
"When this option is on, the "Save as..." dialog will always open in the directory where the currently open document is. When it's off, it will open in the directory where you last saved a file using that dialog."
I second that. And please update the rel notes accordingly.
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:33 -0300, bulia byak wrote:
2009/10/5 Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...400...>:
"When this option is on, the "Save as..." dialog will always open in the directory where the currently open document is. When it's off, it will open in the directory where you last saved a file using that dialog."
I second that. And please update the rel notes accordingly.
Agreed. Committed and Release Notes updated.
Cheers, Josh
De : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> 2009/10/5 Krzysztof Kosiński :
"When this option is on, the "Save as..." dialog will always open in the directory where the currently open document is. When it's off, it will open in the directory where you last saved a file using that dialog."
I second that. And please update the rel notes accordingly.
Please don't forget that we've reached string freeze last Saturday, and that the deadline for translations is next Tuesday. Is it possible to delay that kind of changes to the next release (0.47.1 or 0..48)? The current string is not very good, but it's not that bad. The risk is that some translators don't have time to translate it again...
Thanks! -- Nicolas
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:53 +0000, Nicolas Dufour wrote:
De : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> 2009/10/5 Krzysztof Kosiński :
"When this option is on, the "Save as..." dialog will always open in the directory where the currently open document is. When it's off, it will open in the directory where you last saved a file using that dialog."
I second that. And please update the rel notes accordingly.
Please don't forget that we've reached string freeze last Saturday, and that the deadline for translations is next Tuesday. Is it possible to delay that kind of changes to the next release (0.47.1 or 0..48)? The current string is not very good, but it's not that bad. The risk is that some translators don't have time to translate it again...
I'm sorry, it was really necessary to change (and has already happened).
Consider this an extension to next Saturday. (Apparently I forgot that it was Tuesday and only extended 1 day when I did)
Cheers, Josh
2009/10/5 Nicolas Dufour <nicoduf@...48...>:
Please don't forget that we've reached string freeze last Saturday, and that the deadline for translations is next Tuesday. Is it possible to delay that kind of changes to the next release (0.47.1 or 0..48)? The current string is not very good, but it's not that bad. The risk is that some translators don't have time to translate it again...
When a string is wrong, or so confusing as to be almost wrong, I think it is better for the users of localized versions to see the corrected English string than the incorrect localized string translated from the incorrect English.
Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
Better version of the tooltip:
"When this option is on, the "Save as..." dialog will always open in the directory where the currently open document is. When it's off, it will open in the directory where you last saved a file using that dialog."
Regards, Krzysztof
While I agree that this is much clearer I would suggest slightly different wording, so instead of: "...the directory where the currently open document is." as ending a sentence with 'is' doesn't feel right to me, either: "...the directory of the currently open document." or: "...the directory where the currently open document is located."
I know this won't get changed now, but perhaps for a later release?
Regards, Tom
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