El sáb, 24-01-2009 a las 13:26 +0000, Pajarico escribió:

A bit unfair, don't you think? First' that is not the case. Second, I'm sure everyone here has a different opinion about what a good workflow/integration is ;) Actually now that you mention you're talking about VISUAL integration, which (IMHO) is a minor issue. Integration in a broader sense is what user needs to improve his workflow, like in Creative Suite. And I'm talking about major integration here! ;)

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. When I wrote "You don't seem to care" I meant that you were talking about a workflow that mixed free and commercial apps and it didn't seem that a free-software-only workflow was a priority for you. My english isn't as good as I'd like, so sometimes I have to simplify some sentences because I'm not sure about how to write them, and that can lead to misunderstandings. :-)

Of course that features integration is the MOST important aspect of a common workflow alla Creative Suite. I had to find a not-so-comfortable worflow because of that and I suffer frequently that lack of integration, but that's something I have to live with because I want to use free software (even applications that didn't reach the 1.0 state yet ;-) Usually people who has a legal copy of Adobe CS uses their applications, not development software that might be unstable or incompatible. So your case is not the average either. You choose to work with inkscape (which is great, beautiful and certainly has bugs) instead of Illustrator, that is already part of a suite that has better interchange between applications handling. If I say "you don't care" I mean that you probably "don't see that difference as a problem", so having so different icons is something that you find acceptable, as you find acceptable that Inkscape and Indesign don't have a better integration.

Anyway, even though I don't agree with several of your points I respect your opinion and I think we could reach a compromise. My first proposition was to make the current Tango set the default as is, but I find some very reasonable suggestions on the go.

-Creating new tangoified icons for the drawing tools more similar to the current tools (and unifying their look: all pointing to the same direction and showing the caps with a stroke). -Creating a new icon for the 3D Box tool with a 2-point or 3-point perspective. -Adding color to the geometric primitives tools (I wouldn't use too saturated colors. Not red for the circle -the REC icon- but shades of pink like the default one). -Creating a tangoified version of the current Tweak icon (I'm not sure about this. I really prefer the Tango icon, but it's matter of taste). -Creating a new icon for the bucket fill tool. I agree that the current Tango icon is too flat, but I don't think it's problematic for recognition. But some people think it is so let's change it.

As a final thought, I'd like to back up the comment from Aaron Spike. He clearly states that he prefers the current set, but he stresses the importance of the unified look and the need of a section in the preferences to change the icon themes easily.

Gez.