Marketing/Advocacy/Outreach Team - Proposed Objectives
As perhaps a primer to forming a new team to serve the Inkscape project, I would put forward for discussion the following *objectives* for such a team:
1. *Increasing the project's contributor base,* as measured by code commits, non-technical contributions, cash contributions, etc. 2. *Improving the market position of Inkscape*, as measured by user and target-user opinion studies, favorable press coverage, increased usage, etc. 3. *Increasing community loyalty and engagement*, as measured by participation in physical meetups, online discussions, social sharing, etc.
Finding consensus about objectives seems more productive at this stage than strategy and tactics. I'd love to hear what you all think or would add/remove/edit.
*(Bryce: I had this largely written prior to your response to the other thread, so feel free to steer this conversation in a different direction if you wish)*
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:38:17AM -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
As perhaps a primer to forming a new team to serve the Inkscape project, I would put forward for discussion the following *objectives* for such a team:
- *Increasing the project's contributor base,* as measured by code
commits, non-technical contributions, cash contributions, etc. 2. *Improving the market position of Inkscape*, as measured by user and target-user opinion studies, favorable press coverage, increased usage, etc. 3. *Increasing community loyalty and engagement*, as measured by participation in physical meetups, online discussions, social sharing, etc.
Finding consensus about objectives seems more productive at this stage than strategy and tactics. I'd love to hear what you all think or would add/remove/edit.
*(Bryce: I had this largely written prior to your response to the other thread, so feel free to steer this conversation in a different direction if you wish)*
All sounds great. I want to avoid steering things too much from a top-down position because I know there's a ton of ideas and potential work in this area that is going to require a strong sense of commitment over the long haul. So it's important the team feel they own their objectives and are able to invest themselves in specific tasks and projects best aligned to their own passions and interests. Maximizing the self-motivation of team members will be the most efficient way to get a lot of cool stuff achieved.
I like that you called out non-technical contributions; I know I'm a bit of a broken record here but I feel that broadening our collective skillset in a well organized manner is vital to the long term health of the project.
There is also an important role available to this team in helping draft release announcement materials. This has been a weak area of ours for a number of releases, so would be a very direct way for this team to impact Inkscape. I can give more details if the team wants to take this on.
Beyond that I'm just really interested in seeing what the team comes up with!
Bryce
I'm still voicing my concern about starting this while core developers and other community members are focussing on hackfest. I'm pretty sure that at least a couple of them are interested in participating. Plus some of us have recently commited to work on the new beginners' guide.
Ryan from a different message said
I'll put forward that we meet at either 13:00 or 20:00 GMT on the Tuesday 6/20 on either IRC Freenode #inkscape-devel channel or https://meet.jit.si/inkscape.
I'm open to alternative times. If we need to we could have an asynchronous meeting on the forum as well. ___________________
Could we put off the meeting until at least the 2nd week in July? That would give hackers time to take a breath! I was thinking even the 3rd week might be better, to be sure the manual/guide workers can join.
I would guess one of those times would probably work. But shouldn't we consult everyone about the day? I've looked up the message announcing the first meeting, and here are those people:
Maren Hachmann<maren@...3165...> Mihaela<mihaela.jurkovic@...400...> Buovjaga<todventtu@...3491...>
And the message should probably invite anyone else who wants to join, as well.
I wonder if it should be cross-posted to the User and/or Docs list? The first time it was posted in Devel and User lists.
As soon as we have chosen a name for the team, we can ask Martin or Maren to create a team for us, on the website. https://inkscape.org/en/teams/ As I've recently learned while setting up a moderation team, we will need to write a description of the group, and a charter for the group (which basically tells about the tasks and responsibilities of the team members). (Possibly there could be a chatroom for the team, but I'm not saying that with any real certainty. Really waiting for the question to be answered for the moderation team ;-) )
Yes, we could have a related thread on the forum. Certainly I'll make post announcing the creation of the team. Although probably most people who are interested in joining this team, aren't members. (This touches on a whole other story, which I'll relate separately.)
Ryan, Mihaela also has some strong and definite ideas and goals, already stated in a few different threads (approx 3 to 4 to maybe 6 months ago). Mihaela has been busy with other projects, but when I've checked in with her, she has expressed that she still has a strong interest and wants to be notified. (That was as of the last time we set up a meeting.)
I think Buovjaga had some big ideas too, but I don't remember specifically.
Most of these things that you've mentioned Ryan, are over my head. It sounds like you're interested in surveys and statistics? I would echo Bryce in adding that one of the goals of the group is to coordinate announcement of releases and other milestones (hackfest, new manuals, etc.) I would also add that managing competitions, contests or drawing challenges might be part of it too.
Personally, the extent of my participation is probably going to be posting messages and announcements in forums (possibly setting up forum features as well). But I'm still interested to get the team created and going. And to follow developments, make comments, and help in whatever other ways I can.
But again, maybe not Right Now. Maybe in 3 or 4 weeks?
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:56 PM To: Ryan Gorley Cc: Inkscape Devel List Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Marketing/Advocacy/Outreach Team - Proposed Objectives
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:38:17AM -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
As perhaps a primer to forming a new team to serve the Inkscape project, I would put forward for discussion the following *objectives* for such a team:
- *Increasing the project's contributor base,* as measured by code
commits, non-technical contributions, cash contributions, etc. 2. *Improving the market position of Inkscape*, as measured by user and target-user opinion studies, favorable press coverage, increased usage, etc. 3. *Increasing community loyalty and engagement*, as measured by participation in physical meetups, online discussions, social sharing, etc.
Finding consensus about objectives seems more productive at this stage than strategy and tactics. I'd love to hear what you all think or would add/remove/edit.
*(Bryce: I had this largely written prior to your response to the other thread, so feel free to steer this conversation in a different direction if you wish)*
All sounds great. I want to avoid steering things too much from a top-down position because I know there's a ton of ideas and potential work in this area that is going to require a strong sense of commitment over the long haul. So it's important the team feel they own their objectives and are able to invest themselves in specific tasks and projects best aligned to their own passions and interests. Maximizing the self-motivation of team members will be the most efficient way to get a lot of cool stuff achieved.
I like that you called out non-technical contributions; I know I'm a bit of a broken record here but I feel that broadening our collective skillset in a well organized manner is vital to the long term health of the project.
There is also an important role available to this team in helping draft release announcement materials. This has been a weak area of ours for a number of releases, so would be a very direct way for this team to impact Inkscape. I can give more details if the team wants to take this on.
Beyond that I'm just really interested in seeing what the team comes up with!
Bryce
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On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 06:29:09PM -0600, brynn wrote:
I'm still voicing my concern about starting this while core developers and other community members are focussing on hackfest. I'm pretty sure that at least a couple of them are interested in participating. Plus some of us have recently commited to work on the new beginners' guide.
Fair points, but keep in mind a major part of the reason for forming this team is to enable more stuff to occur in parallel and avoid bottlenecking on core developers.
I suppose if you wanted, the first meeting could be kept low key, more of a social/brainstorming session, with the real kickoff occuring post-hackfest. If people are interested right now, why not strike while the iron is hot?
Bryce
Ryan from a different message said
I'll put forward that we meet at either 13:00 or 20:00 GMT on the Tuesday 6/20 on either IRC Freenode #inkscape-devel channel or https://meet.jit.si/inkscape.
I'm open to alternative times. If we need to we could have an asynchronous meeting on the forum as well. ___________________
Could we put off the meeting until at least the 2nd week in July? That would give hackers time to take a breath! I was thinking even the 3rd week might be better, to be sure the manual/guide workers can join.
I would guess one of those times would probably work. But shouldn't we consult everyone about the day? I've looked up the message announcing the first meeting, and here are those people:
Maren Hachmann<maren@...3165...> Mihaela<mihaela.jurkovic@...400...> Buovjaga<todventtu@...3491...>
And the message should probably invite anyone else who wants to join, as well.
I wonder if it should be cross-posted to the User and/or Docs list? The first time it was posted in Devel and User lists.
As soon as we have chosen a name for the team, we can ask Martin or Maren to create a team for us, on the website. https://inkscape.org/en/teams/ As I've recently learned while setting up a moderation team, we will need to write a description of the group, and a charter for the group (which basically tells about the tasks and responsibilities of the team members). (Possibly there could be a chatroom for the team, but I'm not saying that with any real certainty. Really waiting for the question to be answered for the moderation team ;-) )
Yes, we could have a related thread on the forum. Certainly I'll make post announcing the creation of the team. Although probably most people who are interested in joining this team, aren't members. (This touches on a whole other story, which I'll relate separately.)
Ryan, Mihaela also has some strong and definite ideas and goals, already stated in a few different threads (approx 3 to 4 to maybe 6 months ago). Mihaela has been busy with other projects, but when I've checked in with her, she has expressed that she still has a strong interest and wants to be notified. (That was as of the last time we set up a meeting.)
I think Buovjaga had some big ideas too, but I don't remember specifically.
Most of these things that you've mentioned Ryan, are over my head. It sounds like you're interested in surveys and statistics? I would echo Bryce in adding that one of the goals of the group is to coordinate announcement of releases and other milestones (hackfest, new manuals, etc.) I would also add that managing competitions, contests or drawing challenges might be part of it too.
Personally, the extent of my participation is probably going to be posting messages and announcements in forums (possibly setting up forum features as well). But I'm still interested to get the team created and going. And to follow developments, make comments, and help in whatever other ways I can.
But again, maybe not Right Now. Maybe in 3 or 4 weeks?
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:56 PM To: Ryan Gorley Cc: Inkscape Devel List Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Marketing/Advocacy/Outreach Team - Proposed Objectives
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:38:17AM -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
As perhaps a primer to forming a new team to serve the Inkscape project, I would put forward for discussion the following *objectives* for such a team:
- *Increasing the project's contributor base,* as measured by code
commits, non-technical contributions, cash contributions, etc. 2. *Improving the market position of Inkscape*, as measured by user and target-user opinion studies, favorable press coverage, increased usage, etc. 3. *Increasing community loyalty and engagement*, as measured by participation in physical meetups, online discussions, social sharing, etc.
Finding consensus about objectives seems more productive at this stage than strategy and tactics. I'd love to hear what you all think or would add/remove/edit.
*(Bryce: I had this largely written prior to your response to the other thread, so feel free to steer this conversation in a different direction if you wish)*
All sounds great. I want to avoid steering things too much from a top-down position because I know there's a ton of ideas and potential work in this area that is going to require a strong sense of commitment over the long haul. So it's important the team feel they own their objectives and are able to invest themselves in specific tasks and projects best aligned to their own passions and interests. Maximizing the self-motivation of team members will be the most efficient way to get a lot of cool stuff achieved.
I like that you called out non-technical contributions; I know I'm a bit of a broken record here but I feel that broadening our collective skillset in a well organized manner is vital to the long term health of the project.
There is also an important role available to this team in helping draft release announcement materials. This has been a weak area of ours for a number of releases, so would be a very direct way for this team to impact Inkscape. I can give more details if the team wants to take this on.
Beyond that I'm just really interested in seeing what the team comes up with!
Bryce
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We will not be excluding anyone from participation. The first step is just cataloging what is going on and making sure we know what areas we might be missing.
People coming on to this project will be welcome one week, one month or one year from now.
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/13/2017 8:29 PM, brynn wrote:
I'm still voicing my concern about starting this while core developers and other community members are focussing on hackfest. I'm pretty sure that at least a couple of them are interested in participating. Plus some of us have recently commited to work on the new beginners' guide.
Ryan from a different message said
I'll put forward that we meet at either 13:00 or 20:00 GMT on the Tuesday 6/20 on either IRC Freenode #inkscape-devel channel or https://meet.jit.si/inkscape.
I'm open to alternative times. If we need to we could have an asynchronous meeting on the forum as well. ___________________
Could we put off the meeting until at least the 2nd week in July? That would give hackers time to take a breath! I was thinking even the 3rd week might be better, to be sure the manual/guide workers can join.
I would guess one of those times would probably work. But shouldn't we consult everyone about the day? I've looked up the message announcing the first meeting, and here are those people:
Maren Hachmann<maren@...3165...> Mihaela<mihaela.jurkovic@...400...> Buovjaga<todventtu@...3491...>
And the message should probably invite anyone else who wants to join, as well.
I wonder if it should be cross-posted to the User and/or Docs list? The first time it was posted in Devel and User lists.
As soon as we have chosen a name for the team, we can ask Martin or Maren to create a team for us, on the website. https://inkscape.org/en/teams/ As I've recently learned while setting up a moderation team, we will need to write a description of the group, and a charter for the group (which basically tells about the tasks and responsibilities of the team members). (Possibly there could be a chatroom for the team, but I'm not saying that with any real certainty. Really waiting for the question to be answered for the moderation team ;-) )
Yes, we could have a related thread on the forum. Certainly I'll make post announcing the creation of the team. Although probably most people who are interested in joining this team, aren't members. (This touches on a whole other story, which I'll relate separately.)
Ryan, Mihaela also has some strong and definite ideas and goals, already stated in a few different threads (approx 3 to 4 to maybe 6 months ago). Mihaela has been busy with other projects, but when I've checked in with her, she has expressed that she still has a strong interest and wants to be notified. (That was as of the last time we set up a meeting.)
I think Buovjaga had some big ideas too, but I don't remember specifically.
Most of these things that you've mentioned Ryan, are over my head. It sounds like you're interested in surveys and statistics? I would echo Bryce in adding that one of the goals of the group is to coordinate announcement of releases and other milestones (hackfest, new manuals, etc.) I would also add that managing competitions, contests or drawing challenges might be part of it too.
Personally, the extent of my participation is probably going to be posting messages and announcements in forums (possibly setting up forum features as well). But I'm still interested to get the team created and going. And to follow developments, make comments, and help in whatever other ways I can.
But again, maybe not Right Now. Maybe in 3 or 4 weeks?
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:56 PM To: Ryan Gorley Cc: Inkscape Devel List Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Marketing/Advocacy/Outreach Team - Proposed Objectives
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:38:17AM -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
As perhaps a primer to forming a new team to serve the Inkscape project, I would put forward for discussion the following *objectives* for such a team:
- *Increasing the project's contributor base,* as measured by code
commits, non-technical contributions, cash contributions, etc. 2. *Improving the market position of Inkscape*, as measured by user and target-user opinion studies, favorable press coverage, increased usage, etc. 3. *Increasing community loyalty and engagement*, as measured by participation in physical meetups, online discussions, social sharing, etc.
Finding consensus about objectives seems more productive at this stage than strategy and tactics. I'd love to hear what you all think or would add/remove/edit.
*(Bryce: I had this largely written prior to your response to the other thread, so feel free to steer this conversation in a different direction if you wish)*
All sounds great. I want to avoid steering things too much from a top-down position because I know there's a ton of ideas and potential work in this area that is going to require a strong sense of commitment over the long haul. So it's important the team feel they own their objectives and are able to invest themselves in specific tasks and projects best aligned to their own passions and interests. Maximizing the self-motivation of team members will be the most efficient way to get a lot of cool stuff achieved.
I like that you called out non-technical contributions; I know I'm a bit of a broken record here but I feel that broadening our collective skillset in a well organized manner is vital to the long term health of the project.
There is also an important role available to this team in helping draft release announcement materials. This has been a weak area of ours for a number of releases, so would be a very direct way for this team to impact Inkscape. I can give more details if the team wants to take this on.
Beyond that I'm just really interested in seeing what the team comes up with!
Bryce
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14 июня 2017 г. 3:30 AM пользователь "brynn" написал:
I'm still voicing my concern about starting this while core developers and other community members are focussing on hackfest.
The SMM meeting is a week apart from the hackfest. None of the hackfest participants have so far claimed to be unable to attend the SMM meeting. In fact, few have voiced their interest in both events. So why is this relevant?
Alex
Am 14.06.2017 um 02:29 schrieb brynn:
And the message should probably invite anyone else who wants to join, as well.
I wonder if it should be cross-posted to the User and/or Docs list? The first time it was posted in Devel and User lists.
Sounds like a good idea to me, Brynn.
Ryan, you can find a list of our mailing lists at https://inkscape.org/en/community/mailing-lists/
Kind Regards, Maren
Brynn, your concerns about participation are valid, and we don't want any willing participants excluded. As Bryce suggested, perhaps we make this first meeting a less formal gathering of people who are interested in participating. I hate to lose momentum by putting this off another month. The only business of this meeting probably needs to be arranging the creation of a mailing list (or something) for the team to communicate, and the planning of the next meeting.
Let's try to pin down a time. If you're interested in joining us please add your name and available times here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/inkscape-marketing
Are there any lingering objections to soliciting participation more broadly at this point?
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt https://dijt.co/
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote:
Am 14.06.2017 um 02:29 schrieb brynn:
And the message should probably invite anyone else who wants to join, as well.
I wonder if it should be cross-posted to the User and/or Docs list? The first time it was posted in Devel and User lists.
Sounds like a good idea to me, Brynn.
Ryan, you can find a list of our mailing lists at https://inkscape.org/en/community/mailing-lists/
Kind Regards, Maren
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 00:24 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
mailing list (or something) for the team to communicate, and the planning of the next meeting.
Resource warning: mailing lists are currently unavailable as we are sourcing a new mailing list system. The existing ones on sourceforge are a throwback legacy and can't be built upon.
But 'or something' might work.
Best Regards, Martin Owens Ministry of Services
Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Social_media
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/14/2017 2:52 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 00:24 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
mailing list (or something) for the team to communicate, and the planning of the next meeting.
Resource warning: mailing lists are currently unavailable as we are sourcing a new mailing list system. The existing ones on sourceforge are a throwback legacy and can't be built upon.
But 'or something' might work.
Best Regards, Martin Owens Ministry of Services
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On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 08:34 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote:
Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Social_media
What I've done is edit the website linked directly:
https://inkscape.org/en/community/mailing-lists/
Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator
Social media platforms are important communication channels and communities, but so are the website, search engines, trade publications, trade shows, professional groups, conventions, online forums, etc. Each offers its own opportunity, but I would put forward that none are sufficient on their own to drive this project forward in a significant way. I suggest we make social media a part of a larger marketing conversation, even though that may be the extent to which some of us are interested in being involved. This project will make greater strides when we arrive at a consensus on what we aim to achieve at a strategic level, determine how we'll measure progress, and get to work planning and doing things at the channel and community level.
P.S. My apologies for publishing emails in that document https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/inkscape-marketing. We'll just have to settle for some general announcement about the date/time until we find some secure way to communicate directly to those who are specifically interested. Please help us figure out when we can hold such a meeting by selecting or adding a time that works for you here https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/inkscape-marketing.
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt https://dijt.co/
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Robert Sterbal <rsterbal@...714...> wrote:
Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/ index.php/Talk:Social_media
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/14/2017 2:52 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 00:24 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
mailing list (or something) for the team to communicate, and the planning of the next meeting.
Resource warning: mailing lists are currently unavailable as we are sourcing a new mailing list system. The existing ones on sourceforge are a throwback legacy and can't be built upon.
But 'or something' might work.
Best Regards, Martin Owens Ministry of Services
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In addition to organisation discussions:
This is a proposed extension to the inkscape website news system (see attached screenshot)
The idea is that we can add in any backlinks to our news articles into the article. Effectively giving us a space to track if we have posted the article to twitter, facebook and etc etc. Different types of articles will want different social media, so I've left it fairly open to group policy (as in what social media to post news to)
On the news page itself, we'd show the little icons and link to them so people could see at a glace what social media was done for that article. As well as any other (non-social-media) backlinks could be added somewhere useful later.
Thoughts? Useful to the the new social media group? Please bring it up at the meeting and let me know what you'd like the website to do.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 10:34 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
Social media platforms are important communication channels and communities, but so are the website, search engines, trade publications, trade shows, professional groups, conventions, online forums, etc. Each offers its own opportunity, but I would put forward that none are sufficient on their own to drive this project forward in a significant way. I suggest we make social media a part of a larger marketing conversation, even though that may be the extent to which some of us are interested in being involved. This project will make greater strides when we arrive at a consensus on what we aim to achieve at a strategic level, determine how we'll measure progress, and get to work planning and doing things at the channel and community level.
P.S. My apologies for publishing emails in that document. We'll just have to settle for some general announcement about the date/time until we find some secure way to communicate directly to those who are specifically interested. Please help us figure out when we can hold such a meeting by selecting or adding a time that works for you here.
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Robert Sterbal <rsterbal@...714...
wrote: Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/ Talk:Social_media
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/14/2017 2:52 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 00:24 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
mailing list (or something) for the team to communicate, and the planning of the next meeting.
Resource warning: mailing lists are currently unavailable as we are sourcing a new mailing list system. The existing ones on sourceforge are a throwback legacy and can't be built upon.
But 'or something' might work.
Best Regards, Martin Owens Ministry of Services
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Did you intend to publish, Martin?
Maren
Am 14.06.2017 um 15:32 schrieb Martin Owens:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 08:34 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote:
Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Social_media
What I've done is edit the website linked directly:
https://inkscape.org/en/community/mailing-lists/
Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator
This seems like it would be really valuable for tracking, and to a greater extent encouraging people to promote the news to their own social circles. I cannot think of any reason *not* to do it. :)
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt https://dijt.co/
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
In addition to organisation discussions:
This is a proposed extension to the inkscape website news system (see attached screenshot)
The idea is that we can add in any backlinks to our news articles into the article. Effectively giving us a space to track if we have posted the article to twitter, facebook and etc etc. Different types of articles will want different social media, so I've left it fairly open to group policy (as in what social media to post news to)
On the news page itself, we'd show the little icons and link to them so people could see at a glace what social media was done for that article. As well as any other (non-social-media) backlinks could be added somewhere useful later.
Thoughts? Useful to the the new social media group? Please bring it up at the meeting and let me know what you'd like the website to do.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 10:34 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
Social media platforms are important communication channels and communities, but so are the website, search engines, trade publications, trade shows, professional groups, conventions, online forums, etc. Each offers its own opportunity, but I would put forward that none are sufficient on their own to drive this project forward in a significant way. I suggest we make social media a part of a larger marketing conversation, even though that may be the extent to which some of us are interested in being involved. This project will make greater strides when we arrive at a consensus on what we aim to achieve at a strategic level, determine how we'll measure progress, and get to work planning and doing things at the channel and community level.
P.S. My apologies for publishing emails in that document. We'll just have to settle for some general announcement about the date/time until we find some secure way to communicate directly to those who are specifically interested. Please help us figure out when we can hold such a meeting by selecting or adding a time that works for you here.
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Robert Sterbal <rsterbal@...714...
wrote: Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/ Talk:Social_media
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/14/2017 2:52 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 00:24 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
mailing list (or something) for the team to communicate, and the planning of the next meeting.
Resource warning: mailing lists are currently unavailable as we are sourcing a new mailing list system. The existing ones on sourceforge are a throwback legacy and can't be built upon.
But 'or something' might work.
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This is very helpful!
After asking in various channels I think I want to focus on the wiki.
If you have any questions about the additions I am making to the wiki please let me know.
I hope your efforts to market the software better work out. I'd be happy to help, but I'll let other people take the leadership of those efforts at this time.
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/14/2017 9:32 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 08:34 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote:
Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Social_media
What I've done is edit the website linked directly:
https://inkscape.org/en/community/mailing-lists/
Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator
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In consideration of those who are more comfortable writing English than speaking, and unless there are objections, I think perhaps we should just hold this meetup on the *Freenode #inkscape-devel IRC channel* instead. We can discuss where future meetings will be held.
It's clear that we will not find a time that works for all, but a critical mass of interested parties can meet at *Tuesday 20 June 2017 @ 20:00-21:00 GMT*. Unless there are objections, I am going to announce that time to a larger audience of may be interested and plan as an order of business we schedule a subsequent meeting that others will be able to participate in.
I hope I'm not steamrolling anyone. I'm still learning how to navigate getting things done in this kind of environment. If someone has a better plan, please put it forward. I would like to get an announcement out prior to leaving on a trip for a few days.
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt https://dijt.co/
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Robert Sterbal <rsterbal@...714...> wrote:
This is very helpful!
After asking in various channels I think I want to focus on the wiki.
If you have any questions about the additions I am making to the wiki please let me know.
I hope your efforts to market the software better work out. I'd be happy to help, but I'll let other people take the leadership of those efforts at this time.
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/14/2017 9:32 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 08:34 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote:
Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_media
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Social_media
What I've done is edit the website linked directly:
https://inkscape.org/en/community/mailing-lists/
Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator
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On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 18:21 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
I hope I'm not steamrolling anyone. I'm still learning how to navigate getting things done in this kind of environment. If someone has a better plan, please put it forward. I would like to get an announcement out prior to leaving on a trip for a few days.
Sounds good Ryan, I'll try and make the meeting.
You can post a link to the irc chat like this:
https://inkscape.org/en/*developer/chat/
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 09:42:44PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 18:21 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
I hope I'm not steamrolling anyone. I'm still learning how to navigate getting things done in this kind of environment. If someone has a better plan, please put it forward. I would like to get an announcement out prior to leaving on a trip for a few days.
Sounds good Ryan, I'll try and make the meeting.
Me too, thanks for organizing it. :-)
Bryce
You can post a link to the irc chat like this:
https://inkscape.org/en/*developer/chat/
Best Regards, Martin Owens
This is now live:
https://inkscape.org/en/news/2017/06/10/inkscape-moves-gitlab/
Also live is message batching. Should you want all your translator/edit messages to come at one time. Or all your comments to artworks once a week etc.
Best Regards Martin Owens
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 17:39 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
In addition to organisation discussions:
This is a proposed extension to the inkscape website news system (see attached screenshot)
The idea is that we can add in any backlinks to our news articles into the article. Effectively giving us a space to track if we have posted the article to twitter, facebook and etc etc. Different types of articles will want different social media, so I've left it fairly open to group policy (as in what social media to post news to)
On the news page itself, we'd show the little icons and link to them so people could see at a glace what social media was done for that article. As well as any other (non-social-media) backlinks could be added somewhere useful later.
Thoughts? Useful to the the new social media group? Please bring it up at the meeting and let me know what you'd like the website to do.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 10:34 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
Social media platforms are important communication channels and communities, but so are the website, search engines, trade publications, trade shows, professional groups, conventions, online forums, etc. Each offers its own opportunity, but I would put forward that none are sufficient on their own to drive this project forward in a significant way. I suggest we make social media a part of a larger marketing conversation, even though that may be the extent to which some of us are interested in being involved. This project will make greater strides when we arrive at a consensus on what we aim to achieve at a strategic level, determine how we'll measure progress, and get to work planning and doing things at the channel and community level.
P.S. My apologies for publishing emails in that document. We'll just have to settle for some general announcement about the date/time until we find some secure way to communicate directly to those who are specifically interested. Please help us figure out when we can hold such a meeting by selecting or adding a time that works for you here.
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Robert Sterbal <rsterbal@...3565... et
wrote: Wikis can make good collaborative spaces.
Please update: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Social_med ia
You can add comments here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.ph p/ Talk:Social_media
Thanks,
Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text
On 6/14/2017 2:52 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 00:24 -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
mailing list (or something) for the team to communicate, and the planning of the next meeting.
Resource warning: mailing lists are currently unavailable as we are sourcing a new mailing list system. The existing ones on sourceforge are a throwback legacy and can't be built upon.
But 'or something' might work.
Best Regards, Martin Owens Ministry of Services
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participants (7)
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Alexandre Prokoudine
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Bryce Harrington
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brynn
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Maren Hachmann
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Martin Owens
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Robert Sterbal
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Ryan Gorley