Hi all,
I've just added a new lpe to fill a shape with rough hatches. It's still at an experimental state.
As usual, I'm in trouble with the parameters. They are purely technical atm, i.e. they are the onesI used in the code to control the shape of the hatches. But what is technical-oriented is generally not user friendly (in particular, I was not able to supply tips for some of them). Please try it, and suggest user firendly parameters (from which the technical ones would be deduced).
Ah, and yes, bending needs improvement, and growth has no effect atm...
Anyway, I hope you'll like it ;-) jf.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:57 PM, jf barraud <jf.barraud@...400...> wrote:
As usual, I'm in trouble with the parameters. They are purely technical atm, i.e. they are the onesI used in the code to control the shape of the hatches. But what is technical-oriented is generally not user friendly (in particular, I was not able to supply tips for some of them). Please try it, and suggest user firendly parameters (from which the technical ones would be deduced).
Ah, and yes, bending needs improvement, and growth has no effect atm...
Anyway, I hope you'll like it ;-)
Wow!
Agreed, the parameters need to be rethought or at least relabeled to be more understandable. I'll try to find time to work on that.
It would be nice if the knotholder would allow Ctrl to snap the direction to rotation steps (or at least hor/vert).
Now, it would be extra nice if Stitch Subpaths, which is similar in many aspects, could also do calligraphic strokes (i.e. filled shapes) as Hatches does. And if Hatches could bend its strokes along a given path, as Stitch does. In fact, why not combine the two? :)
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM, bulia byak wrote:
It would be nice if the knotholder would allow Ctrl to snap the direction to rotation steps (or at least hor/vert)...
...and have status bar hints ;-)
I fully agree - this is a great addition. I believe you can close a feature request for Scribble-like LPE now :-)
Alexandre
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Pajarico wrote:
Could someone post a screenshot? Thanks.
Alexandre
2008/11/10 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM, bulia byak wrote:
It would be nice if the knotholder would allow Ctrl to snap the direction to rotation steps (or at least hor/vert)...
...and have status bar hints ;-)
I fully agree - this is a great addition. I believe you can close a feature request for Scribble-like LPE now :-)
Interestingly, I have had something similar lying around for some time but where the scribble is along a path, not within a region (is that what Bulia suggested?). It's only a 2geom toy for now and I need to put it into a LPE but it could be a nice supplement to this one. I hope I get around to adding it to SVN within the next week or so (but atm I only have occasional access to the computer where I can do development work because my local repository is on a friend's laptop since mine crashed a while ago).
Good work, jf! Max
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Maximilian Albert <maximilian.albert@...1439...> wrote:
Interestingly, I have had something similar lying around for some time but where the scribble is along a path, not within a region (is that what Bulia suggested?).
No, we already have it along the path - Sketch. I was talking about combining the two lpes which both fill in the interior (though Stitch only does between subpaths) but Stitch creates separate strokes while Hatches makes a continuous filling shape with very nice calligraphic look.
Hi, Thanks for the comments.
Johan: good idea!! moving the starting point should move the end point as well...
Max: I also started a "dynamic stroke" lpe some times ago, which I stopped because I thought this was already in progress :-) which toy is that??
bulia byak: I locally modified stitch to let it do hatches, giving a "flow" or "hair" like output (mostlikely combined with sketch). I hesitate to commit as the result is more different from original curvestitch lpe than what I expected. Maybe it should become another new lpe, but there are already too many of them ;-) The best would certainly me to use git to share my local experiments!!
As for hatches, using a path parameter (in fact two: one for each side of the hatches) is easy, but randomness enters less naturally in the picture. If you want to have random "U turns" at the ends of the hatches for instance, I guess parametric hatches are more natural. Moreover, I'm not sure fancy hatches are absolutely necessary here + the width of the stroke would most likely depend on distance between hatches (which we want to vary randomly). I'll keep thinking about it.
What about a flag to output straight hatches that sketch could... sketch?
jfb.
jf barraud wrote:
Hi, Thanks for the comments.
Since I haven't commented yet... HOLY AWESOMENESS!!!! I'm sure I've barely scratched the surface of the potential, but... wow!
The best would certainly me to use git to share my local experiments!!
Yes, please do share... I'd be more than happy to test for you and give feedback if desired. ;)
Cheers, Josh
-----Original Message----- From: jf barraud [mailto:jf.barraud@...400...] Sent: dinsdag 11 november 2008 5:35 To: bulia byak Cc: Inkscape Devel List Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] lpe-hatches
Johan: good idea!! moving the starting point should move the end point as well...
LPE-Hatches now uses the new VectorParam. This bugs the "bender" parameter. Perhaps we should transform that into its own separate vectorparam... ?
See how you like it :-)
Cheers, Johan
Hi jf,
sorry for the late reply!
Max: I also started a "dynamic stroke" lpe some times ago, which I stopped because I thought this was already in progress :-) which toy is that??
It wasn't in SVN - I had it lying around only locally. But I just committed it, it's called scribble (although it has nothing to do with scribble.svgd - perhaps I should rename it). It needs to be cleaned up, and so far I haven't found time to rewrite it as a LPE (although I'm planning to do it), but perhaps someone has already fun playing with it. It's a toy, after all ;-).
Cheers, Max
bulia byak wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:57 PM, jf barraud <jf.barraud@...400...> wrote:
As usual, I'm in trouble with the parameters. They are purely technical atm, i.e. they are the onesI used in the code to control the shape of the hatches. But what is technical-oriented is generally not user friendly (in particular, I was not able to supply tips for some of them). Please try it, and suggest user firendly parameters (from which the technical ones would be deduced).
Ah, and yes, bending needs improvement, and growth has no effect atm...
Anyway, I hope you'll like it ;-)
Now, it would be extra nice if Stitch Subpaths, which is similar in many aspects, could also do calligraphic strokes (i.e. filled shapes) as Hatches does. And if Hatches could bend its strokes along a given path, as Stitch does. In fact, why not combine the two? :)
As the resident abuser of Stitch Subpaths, I want to make sure you know that you can already use filled shapes with Stitch Subpaths. After you apply the lpe, copy another path from the canvas and paste to the lpe dialog with the paste button on there. Is this not at least partially what you suggest stitch should do?
The only complaint I'd have about combining the two effects is if it negatively affects my ability to create hair, eyebrows, etc.
Cheers, Josh
Again a very nice one JF! :-)
I'll see if I can create a "vector" LPEparam soon (going to rename the current VectorParam to ArrayParam). Looks like you need it, using two pointparams is not how it should be. This should make it a little bit more user friendly :-)
Cheers! Johan
-----Original Message----- From: jf barraud [mailto:jf.barraud@...400...] Sent: maandag 10 november 2008 2:58 To: inkscape Subject: [Inkscape-devel] lpe-hatches
Hi all,
I've just added a new lpe to fill a shape with rough hatches. It's still at an experimental state.
As usual, I'm in trouble with the parameters. They are purely technical atm, i.e. they are the onesI used in the code to control the shape of the hatches. But what is technical-oriented is generally not user friendly (in particular, I was not able to supply tips for some of them). Please try it, and suggest user firendly parameters (from which the technical ones would be deduced).
Ah, and yes, bending needs improvement, and growth has no effect atm...
Anyway, I hope you'll like it ;-) jf.
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