Hi,
Folks from GNOME design team just asked me about ways to "hide" unused assets like templates and color swatches, so out of interest I've had a look, and it seems to me that indeed we could let go of some stuff. E.g. for templates that would be:
- all desktop_* except probably 1600x1200 (640x480 is useful in 2012? for real?) - no_borders and no_layers (sounds like someone should just need to master custom templates) - default_mm and default_pt (same as above) - fontforge_glyph (obsoleted by typography_canvas)
What do you think?
Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org
Yeah, I do think it's time to go through and clean house a little bit. I guess a side Q is, do we replace some of those desktop ones with their current day equivalents? Such as the ever so common 1366x768.
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...> wrote:
Hi,
Folks from GNOME design team just asked me about ways to "hide" unused assets like templates and color swatches, so out of interest I've had a look, and it seems to me that indeed we could let go of some stuff. E.g. for templates that would be:
- all desktop_* except probably 1600x1200 (640x480 is useful in 2012? for real?)
- no_borders and no_layers (sounds like someone should just need to
master custom templates)
- default_mm and default_pt (same as above)
- fontforge_glyph (obsoleted by typography_canvas)
What do you think?
Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org
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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Josh Andler <scislac@...400...> wrote:
Yeah, I do think it's time to go through and clean house a little bit. I guess a side Q is, do we replace some of those desktop ones with their current day equivalents? Such as the ever so common 1366x768.
Oh yeahm, and then we could add 128, 256 and 512px icons templates, and cover iPads, iPhones, Kindles, Nukes... (someone, slap my face quickly!)
In my never an humble opinion it's a templates abuse :)
We have a bunch of presets for page size in Documents Properties dialog. That's where it should go. We could even make that part of the dialog more usable, with less scrolling. Think the new shortcuts configuration UI and expanders for grouping.
Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org
El 04/12/12 19:41, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió:
Oh yeahm, and then we could add 128, 256 and 512px icons templates, and cover iPads, iPhones, Kindles, Nukes... (someone, slap my face quickly!)
In my never an humble opinion it's a templates abuse :)
We have a bunch of presets for page size in Documents Properties dialog. That's where it should go. We could even make that part of the dialog more usable, with less scrolling. Think the new shortcuts configuration UI and expanders for grouping.
+1
I've never use templates much, except for a few repetitive tasks I do, and I had to create my custom templates for that (DV Pal video with safe areas, for instance). A long list of templates is kind of overwhelming and makes it difficult to find the right one, so for everyday work I tend to just edit my document properties and that's it.
Just to clarify: this is not saying that templates aren't useful. They really are, but the overly long list makes them less handy.
In my opinion, kicking most of them out and adding a tutorial page saying how to create them would be far better than having dozens of them. But probably adding another tutorial page in the help section isn't an option.
On the other hand a good UI for template creation would be a good addition to inkscape.
Gez
If we could have nested templates folders... I'd want all templates nested under these categories
Mobile > Desktop > Paper > Labels > Cinema & TV > Web > Typography >
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:
El 04/12/12 19:41, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió:
Oh yeahm, and then we could add 128, 256 and 512px icons templates, and cover iPads, iPhones, Kindles, Nukes... (someone, slap my face quickly!)
In my never an humble opinion it's a templates abuse :)
We have a bunch of presets for page size in Documents Properties dialog. That's where it should go. We could even make that part of the dialog more usable, with less scrolling. Think the new shortcuts configuration UI and expanders for grouping.
+1
I've never use templates much, except for a few repetitive tasks I do, and I had to create my custom templates for that (DV Pal video with safe areas, for instance). A long list of templates is kind of overwhelming and makes it difficult to find the right one, so for everyday work I tend to just edit my document properties and that's it.
Just to clarify: this is not saying that templates aren't useful. They really are, but the overly long list makes them less handy.
In my opinion, kicking most of them out and adding a tutorial page saying how to create them would be far better than having dozens of them. But probably adding another tutorial page in the help section isn't an option.
On the other hand a good UI for template creation would be a good addition to inkscape.
Gez
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"AF" == Andy Fitzsimon <andrew@...420...> writes:
AF> If we could have nested templates folders... AF> I'd want all templates nested under these categories
AF> Mobile > AF> Desktop > AF> Paper > AF> Labels > AF> Cinema & TV > AF> Web > AF> Typography >
That looks like a better idea.
Deletion is usually less desirable than better organization.
-JimC
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 13:54 +1000, Andy Fitzsimon wrote:
If we could have nested templates folders... I'd want all templates nested under these categories
Mobile > Desktop > Paper > Labels > Cinema & TV > Web > Typography >
There are several places where nested template folders would be useful (coupled with automatically generating the menu entries). The only problem I see, is figuring out how Internationalization would be done. Perhaps a good GSOC project?
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote: El 04/12/12 19:41, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió: > Oh yeahm, and then we could add 128, 256 and 512px icons templates, > and cover iPads, iPhones, Kindles, Nukes... (someone, slap my face > quickly!) > > In my never an humble opinion it's a templates abuse :) > > We have a bunch of presets for page size in Documents Properties > dialog. That's where it should go. We could even make that part of the > dialog more usable, with less scrolling. Think the new shortcuts > configuration UI and expanders for grouping. >
+1 I've never use templates much, except for a few repetitive tasks I do, and I had to create my custom templates for that (DV Pal video with safe areas, for instance). A long list of templates is kind of overwhelming and makes it difficult to find the right one, so for everyday work I tend to just edit my document properties and that's it. Just to clarify: this is not saying that templates aren't useful. They really are, but the overly long list makes them less handy. In my opinion, kicking most of them out and adding a tutorial page saying how to create them would be far better than having dozens of them. But probably adding another tutorial page in the help section isn't an option. On the other hand a good UI for template creation would be a good addition to inkscape. Gez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel-- Andy
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