The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border. Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of the page. Should I file an RFE?
David
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, David Christian Berg wrote:
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:19:38 +0100 From: David Christian Berg <david@...407...> To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border
The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border. Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of the page. Should I file an RFE?
I am sure it would be useful to have.
I wonder if snap to grid could be improved to avoid needing a seperate preference? (What do Illustrator Freehand or other applictions do?)
I notice that the grid already lines up with the vertical edges of my page but not the top edge, perhaps the grid positioning could be tweaked so that it lines up with the top and left edges more easily?
- Alan
On Mi, 2004-11-24 at 03:31 +0000, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, David Christian Berg wrote:
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:19:38 +0100 From: David Christian Berg <david@...407...> To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border
The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border. Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of the page. Should I file an RFE?
I am sure it would be useful to have.
I wonder if snap to grid could be improved to avoid needing a seperate preference? (What do Illustrator Freehand or other applictions do?)
I notice that the grid already lines up with the vertical edges of my page but not the top edge, perhaps the grid positioning could be tweaked so that it lines up with the top and left edges more easily?
Not really because the grid is not _supposed_ to do that, since you specify the distance between the gridlines and maybe an orgin. I think a seperate option is actually quite needed and it's what I know from InDesign after all.
David
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, David Christian Berg wrote:
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:28:24 +0100 From: David Christian Berg <david@...407...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border
On Mi, 2004-11-24 at 03:31 +0000, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, David Christian Berg wrote:
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:19:38 +0100 From: David Christian Berg <david@...407...> To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border
The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border. Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of the page. Should I file an RFE?
I am sure it would be useful to have.
I wonder if snap to grid could be improved to avoid needing a seperate preference? (What do Illustrator Freehand or other applictions do?)
I notice that the grid already lines up with the vertical edges of my page but not the top edge, perhaps the grid positioning could be tweaked so that it lines up with the top and left edges more easily?
Not really because the grid is not _supposed_ to do that, since you specify the distance between the gridlines and maybe an orgin.
Okay so in the case of the document I opened it was coincidence that the page edges coincided with Grid lines but you said "maybe an origin" so I am asking if there is any reason for the 'origin' not to be setup in such a way as to coincided with the top left corner of the page?
Damn. To answer my own question I see that Inkscape considers the bottom left corner to be the origin and the grid does align with that corner.
I think a seperate option is actually quite needed and it's what I know from InDesign after all.
I thought the grid was more dynamic than it really was, the current grid hides some of the lines when it is at 50% Zoom level and as a result I incorrectly assumed that the grid was dynamic and got subdivided at different Zoom levels (but it doesn't).
- Alan
Not really because the grid is not _supposed_ to do that, since you specify the distance between the gridlines and maybe an orgin.
Okay so in the case of the document I opened it was coincidence that the page edges coincided with Grid lines but you said "maybe an origin" so I am asking if there is any reason for the 'origin' not to be setup in such a way as to coincided with the top left corner of the page?
Damn. To answer my own question I see that Inkscape considers the bottom left corner to be the origin and the grid does align with that corner.
yup, that's fine, but maybe a grid offset from that orgin would be cool as well... but no priority
I think a seperate option is actually quite needed and it's what I know from InDesign after all.
I thought the grid was more dynamic than it really was, the current grid hides some of the lines when it is at 50% Zoom level and as a result I incorrectly assumed that the grid was dynamic and got subdivided at different Zoom levels (but it doesn't).
Well, even if it did, it would not replace the margin and page egde snapping.. I usually have a 10mm grid with 2 subdevision in InDesign. Since the page has a hight of 297 mm I won't have a gridline on the page edge nor at the margin, that would maybe be at 12 mm...
David
On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 10:48, Alan Horkan wrote:
Okay so in the case of the document I opened it was coincidence that the page edges coincided with Grid lines but you said "maybe an origin" so I am asking if there is any reason for the 'origin' not to be setup in such a way as to coincided with the top left corner of the page?
Damn. To answer my own question I see that Inkscape considers the bottom left corner to be the origin and the grid does align with that corner.
This is actually a long-standing bug in Inkscape that we inherited from Sodipodi -- SVG specifies that the origin is in the upper left-hand corner.
It was actually a deliberate decision on Lauris' part, but it has proven very hard to undo (I think we'll be looking at fixing it again in 0.41).
Looks like we'll have to figure out how to keep grids in existing documents from shifting as well when this is fixed, though...
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