Hi to all!!!
I notice in Debian stretch no trace bitmap option showed in the menu if Potrace aren't instaled. ¿Maybe is beter show it always, and if selected, fire a warning message?
Cheers, Jabier.
From experience, it's better not to show options that aren't available.
This is a major usability issue of KdenLive for example. It shows you ALL the video export options it has, most of them aren't even available without extra packages installed (and then often it still doesn't work).
If people miss the feature, they will be asking for it anyway. If not, there is no use in showing the user what they can not have, I think. :)
In short: If there is not an easy fix for the issue, it's better to leave the user out of it, imho.
My 2p.
-C
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Hi to all!!!
I notice in Debian stretch no trace bitmap option showed in the menu if Potrace aren't instaled. ¿Maybe is beter show it always, and if selected, fire a warning message?
Cheers, Jabier.
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At the same time, I use Trace Bitmap pretty constantly. It is such a an immensely useful feature that I think it's worth making sure Potrace is installed as a dependency of Inkscape, unless there is a particularly compelling reason why it isn't.
-C
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:43 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
From experience, it's better not to show options that aren't available. This is a major usability issue of KdenLive for example. It shows you ALL the video export options it has, most of them aren't even available without extra packages installed (and then often it still doesn't work).
If people miss the feature, they will be asking for it anyway. If not, there is no use in showing the user what they can not have, I think. :)
In short: If there is not an easy fix for the issue, it's better to leave the user out of it, imho.
My 2p.
-C
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Hi to all!!!
I notice in Debian stretch no trace bitmap option showed in the menu if Potrace aren't instaled. ¿Maybe is beter show it always, and if selected, fire a warning message?
Cheers, Jabier.
Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741911&iu=/4140 _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
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El mié, 02-12-2015 a las 12:48 +0000, C R escribió:
At the same time, I use Trace Bitmap pretty constantly. It is such a an immensely useful feature that I think it's worth making sure Potrace is installed as a dependency of Inkscape, unless there is a particularly compelling reason why it isn't.
-C
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:43 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
From experience, it's better not to show options that aren't available. This is a major usability issue of KdenLive for example. It shows you ALL the video export options it has, most of them aren't even available without extra packages installed (and then often it still doesn't work).
If people miss the feature, they will be asking for it anyway. If not, there is no use in showing the user what they can not have, I think. :)
In short: If there is not an easy fix for the issue, it's better to leave the user out of it, imho.
My 2p.
-C
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3301..... er.es> wrote:
Hi to all!!!
I notice in Debian stretch no trace bitmap option showed in the menu if Potrace aren't instaled. ¿Maybe is beter show it always, and if selected, fire a warning message?
Cheers, Jabier.
Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741911&iu=/4140 _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 12:48 +0000, C R wrote:
At the same time, I use Trace Bitmap pretty constantly. It is such a an immensely useful feature that I think it's worth making sure Potrace is installed as a dependency of Inkscape, unless there is a particularly compelling reason why it isn't.
Aye it probably should. But I'd have a couple of levels of attachment:
1. core (wouldn't work at all with it) 2. strongly recommended (always required in debian) 3. somewhat recommended (always suggested in debian) 4. plugins and others (separate)
I'd actually only remove menu entries for 4. and disable them (grey out) if they are 2 or 3. That way the functionality if sign posted in context, without letting the user do something that might break inkscape.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Agree with that entirely.
In that context, I'd place Trace Bitmap at 2 or 3. It's hard for me to imagine working with Inkscape in the professional graphics world without it. I used it twice today, and that was a light day where I'm mostly using GIMP. It's true you can get by without it, but life would suck. ;P That's probably why it's up at the top three functions in the Path menu.
-C
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 12:48 +0000, C R wrote:
At the same time, I use Trace Bitmap pretty constantly. It is such a an immensely useful feature that I think it's worth making sure Potrace is installed as a dependency of Inkscape, unless there is a particularly compelling reason why it isn't.
Aye it probably should. But I'd have a couple of levels of attachment:
- core (wouldn't work at all with it)
- strongly recommended (always required in debian)
- somewhat recommended (always suggested in debian)
- plugins and others (separate)
I'd actually only remove menu entries for 4. and disable them (grey out) if they are 2 or 3. That way the functionality if sign posted in context, without letting the user do something that might break inkscape.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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