5:09 a.m.
Hey,
I missed the SOC application for this year, but I might do most of the
pre-reqs anyways and hope to work with you guys next summer perhaps.
I've already done a bit of professional software engineering work and
academic work and am pretty opinionated about software, but generally
prefer to avoid going down the rabbit hole of flame wars if at all
possible. For example, I mostly agree with torvalds about C++, but I don't
know that it's possible to do a GUI application that is going to work
anywhere without at least looking in the direction of Bjarne Stroustroup
and forcing a smile. My background is mostly in high throughput web
applications, and I worked on an SVG toy application many moons ago when
SVG was still a proposed feature in Firefox. While I do find distributed
web applications amazing, the fact that I can't really use a computer at
all these days without using some uncountable number of distributed web
applications, both known and unknown to me is not something I find all that
thrilling from a usability point of view.
I'v already started in on some of the SOC application stuff(late, I know).
I actually can't do a lot of the stuff due to the extreme difficulty of
getting an open source engineering workstation that can stand up to my
present circumstances, but hopefully between now and next summer that will
either change or I'll have easier circumstances. I guess I'll be lurking
on the list either way. Nice to e-meet you.
Cheers,
Alexander
2:01 p.m.
Hi Alexander,
The coming year is going to be dedicated towards bug fixing and quality
assurance. If you have the time and would like to contribute to the
project, your help in fixing bugs and getting Inkscape ready for 1.0
would be most welcome. It would certainly give you a positive
reputation ☺.
I don't know what Torvalds has to say about C++, I tend to ignore most
of it as he's no great orator of philosophy, design or tender
compassion for his fellow man. So we'll just park that as out of scope
for this project 😉.
Let me know if you need help getting set up.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Also not a great orator
On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 16:09 -0400, Alexander Vegas Fairley wrote:
Hey,
I missed the SOC application for this year, but I might do most of
the pre-reqs anyways and hope to work with you guys next summer
perhaps.
I've already done a bit of professional software engineering work and
academic work and am pretty opinionated about software, but generally
prefer to avoid going down the rabbit hole of flame wars if at all
possible. For example, I mostly agree with torvalds about C++, but I
don't know that it's possible to do a GUI application that is going
to work anywhere without at least looking in the direction of Bjarne
Stroustroup and forcing a smile. My background is mostly in high
throughput web applications, and I worked on an SVG toy application
many moons ago when SVG was still a proposed feature in Firefox.
While I do find distributed web applications amazing, the fact that I
can't really use a computer at all these days without using some
uncountable number of distributed web applications, both known and
unknown to me is not something I find all that thrilling from a
usability point of view.
I'v already started in on some of the SOC application stuff(late, I
know). I actually can't do a lot of the stuff due to the extreme
difficulty of getting an open source engineering workstation that can
stand up to my present circumstances, but hopefully between now and
next summer that will either change or I'll have easier
circumstances. I guess I'll be lurking on the list either way. Nice
to e-meet you.
Cheers,
Alexander
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2:37 a.m.
Hey Martin,
I'm interested to help get things ready for 1.0, but I don't know when I'll
actually be situated so as to do any meaningful development work. Bug
fixing sounds like a reasonable goal for then.
There's some epic Torvalds rant about C++, I'm no longer sure if it is
googleable, I'll give it a look: ah, the catonmat guy who has lots of
useful deep dives appears to have archived the thing:
http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus .
My general point is that I find C++ kind of spooky in it's ability to let
me build inordinately complicated class hierarchies with all kinds of
strange 'friends' visibilities modifiers and weird object slicing bugs and
such, but that basically all of the userland worlds in the world are built
in it. Given the choice between trying to code in a restricted subset of
C++ that keeps me from building things that I don't want to think about
debugging, and never writing any code ever again, C++ gets some more
consideration, which I don't suppose is high praise, but hey. I have
absolutely no faith in object orientation as a bulwark of security in the
first place.
As I said, my present circumstances make actually doing any programming or
debugging completely impossible, I will see if conceivably I can get access
to somewhere I can look at becoming an inkscape power user and then
hopefully get back into developer shoes somewhere from there.
Thanks for being cordial and saying hello, I consider your typed oration
hereabove probably better than mine
:D
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 1:01 AM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
Hi Alexander,
The coming year is going to be dedicated towards bug fixing and quality
assurance. If you have the time and would like to contribute to the
project, your help in fixing bugs and getting Inkscape ready for 1.0
would be most welcome. It would certainly give you a positive
reputation ☺.
I don't know what Torvalds has to say about C++, I tend to ignore most
of it as he's no great orator of philosophy, design or tender
compassion for his fellow man. So we'll just park that as out of scope
for this project 😉.
Let me know if you need help getting set up.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Also not a great orator
On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 16:09 -0400, Alexander Vegas Fairley wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I missed the SOC application for this year, but I might do most of
> the pre-reqs anyways and hope to work with you guys next summer
> perhaps.
>
> I've already done a bit of professional software engineering work and
> academic work and am pretty opinionated about software, but generally
> prefer to avoid going down the rabbit hole of flame wars if at all
> possible. For example, I mostly agree with torvalds about C++, but I
> don't know that it's possible to do a GUI application that is going
> to work anywhere without at least looking in the direction of Bjarne
> Stroustroup and forcing a smile. My background is mostly in high
> throughput web applications, and I worked on an SVG toy application
> many moons ago when SVG was still a proposed feature in Firefox.
> While I do find distributed web applications amazing, the fact that I
> can't really use a computer at all these days without using some
> uncountable number of distributed web applications, both known and
> unknown to me is not something I find all that thrilling from a
> usability point of view.
>
> I'v already started in on some of the SOC application stuff(late, I
> know). I actually can't do a lot of the stuff due to the extreme
> difficulty of getting an open source engineering workstation that can
> stand up to my present circumstances, but hopefully between now and
> next summer that will either change or I'll have easier
> circumstances. I guess I'll be lurking on the list either way. Nice
> to e-meet you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alexander
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