6:52 p.m.
Well, I think we're hitting the home stretch here.
I've folded in most of the main functional changes, including
scrolling, pop-up menus, in-place editing of layer names, and not
rebuilding the entire tree every time you select a different layer.
Depending on how robust things are, I may be able to add the eye and
lock icons, and to switch the status bar's layer selector to use the
same layer manager back-end. However, any poking at it people can do
in the mean time would be helpful.
8:29 p.m.
Jon A. Cruz a écrit :
However, any poking at it people can do in the mean time would be
helpful.
Just compiled svn and I have a few notes about layer dialog
1) renaming a layer works great by double clicking its name, single
clicking meaning just selecting the layer. But this only works when
there are more than one layer in the document. Basically, with a new
document, there's only one layer, and single clicking renames it. I
think it should be fixed.
2) when deleting a layer, the layer just above it is selected, but if
you stay on the remove icon, it isn't active for clicking anymore, one
should put the mouse out the icon's scope and come back to it to delete
the selected layer. I think it's the same behavior in all gtk apps
(hélas). Is it intended to be so, or can we hack into this to make it
more "user friendly" ? BTW, I think I already read this kind of remark
recently on the list, but can't find the post.
3) when hacking lock and visibility icons, could you look to make it all
"compatible" (say not already coded, but which could be done with the UI
elems you'll use) with this behavior : to toggle multiple layers
visibility (or locking) at once, click on the visibility icon in front
of a layer, drag in the same column and visibility toggles on all layer
lines you cross. I think it works like this in a few apps I used to use,
but can't recall which (AI maybe, but I quit long time ago). I'd really
like this feature to be in. The reason I say it now (instead of waiting
after the 0.44 release and doing it myself) is that it may be UI related
and GTK may (as in my second point above) be a real pain in the ass to
change the behavior of these particular UI elements... So if it could be
coded with this in mind, maybe choices could be clearer on how to do it.
BTW, maybe toogling is not the to-be-prefered behavior, instead, if you
hide a layer and drag over other layer's same icon, it doesn't toogle
but hide... reverse if you click the first layer visibility on, other
layer's visibility'll be enabled... I checked and GIMP hasn't got that
feature, but really should in my POV.
Feel free not to think alike.
mtou
9:30 p.m.
Hi,
Layers dialog looks good! With a limited amount of playing with the
dialog I don't see any serious problems. I do have one comment:
I would expect that the XML editor dialog and Layers dialog to have a
similar interface (as much as possible). Moving layers around in the
Layers dialog should be just like moving groups or objects around in the
XML editor dialog.
A few suggested changes would be to add the ability to promote a
sub-layer to layer in the Layers dialog and changing the arrow icons in
the XML Editor diagram to use the ones used by the Layers dialog.
Tav
12:58 a.m.
On May 18, 2006, at 4:29 AM, Mathieu Dimanche wrote:
2) when deleting a layer, the layer just above it is selected, but
if you stay on the remove icon, it isn't active for clicking
anymore, one should put the mouse out the icon's scope and come
back to it to delete the selected layer. I think it's the same
behavior in all gtk apps (hélas). Is it intended to be so, or can
we hack into this to make it more "user friendly" ? BTW, I think I
already read this kind of remark recently on the list, but can't
find the post.
Strange. I'm not seeing that here. I'm on GTK+ 2.6.10
Is the button icon dimmed, or does it just not have an effect?
1:19 a.m.
2006. 05. 18, csütörtök keltezéssel 08.58-kor Jon A. Cruz ezt írta:
On May 18, 2006, at 4:29 AM, Mathieu Dimanche wrote:
> 2) when deleting a layer, the layer just above it is selected, but
> if you stay on the remove icon, it isn't active for clicking
> anymore, one should put the mouse out the icon's scope and come back
> to it to delete the selected layer. I think it's the same behavior
> in all gtk apps (hélas). Is it intended to be so, or can we hack
> into this to make it more "user friendly" ? BTW, I think I already
> read this kind of remark recently on the list, but can't find the
> post.
>
Strange. I'm not seeing that here. I'm on GTK+ 2.6.10
Is the button icon dimmed, or does it just not have an effect?
Only the first click have effect.
I have written a similar issue yesterday:
* when you click multiple time on the 'Raise current layer'
icon (or
the
'lower current layer'), only the first click seems to working. The
second click does not move the current layer above an another one
layer.
However I you click on an another icon and reclick the 'Raise current
layer' it works again. I hope its clear;)
Khiraly
1:50 a.m.
Khiraly wrote:
2006. 05. 18, csütörtök keltezéssel 08.58-kor Jon A. Cruz ezt írta:
> Strange. I'm not seeing that here. I'm on GTK+ 2.6.10
> Is the button icon dimmed, or does it just not have an effect?
Only the first click have effect.
Jon, this is what I had mentioned a couple nights ago. Same thing for me
both on win32 and Linux. Only the first click on the button is obeyed
(while still hovering on that button)... then if you move the cursor off
the button and back on, you can click it one time again... so if you
want to move a layer downward 4 steps in the stack, you have to leave
the button 3 times to accomplish it.
-Josh
1:53 a.m.
New subject: [Inkscape-tester] Re: Layers dialog
On May 18, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
Jon, this is what I had mentioned a couple nights ago. Same thing
for me
both on win32 and Linux. Only the first click on the button is obeyed
(while still hovering on that button)... then if you move the
cursor off
the button and back on, you can click it one time again... so if you
want to move a layer downward 4 steps in the stack, you have to leave
the button 3 times to accomplish it.
So, which version of GTK+ are you guys running?
That could be a factor. I'm doing some other changes that might
correct that, but it's best to see an explicit cause so we can track
it better.
2:05 a.m.
New subject: [Inkscape-tester] Re: Layers dialog
Jon A. Cruz wrote:
On May 18, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
> Jon, this is what I had mentioned a couple nights ago. Same thing for me
> both on win32 and Linux. Only the first click on the button is obeyed
> (while still hovering on that button)... then if you move the cursor off
> the button and back on, you can click it one time again... so if you
> want to move a layer downward 4 steps in the stack, you have to leave
> the button 3 times to accomplish it.
So, which version of GTK+ are you guys running?
GTK+ 2.8.17 for both win32 & Ubuntu Dapper
-Josh
5:09 a.m.
It is working well here too. Great.
I just had a couple of feature ideas, i hope they can help.
1. Well we select an object on the canvas, the layer is automatically
selected. Well.
But we a layer is activated how can i know the object included in ? May
be a Alt+Click on the layer line could show inner objects.
2. It would be nice if a sublayer could be move from one layer to
another. It could be done by default (may be displaying a confirm
window) or also use a modifier on up, down, bottom and top window.
/!\ the move to above layer command can't do that !!
3. duplicating layer would also be nice. I think this could be simple to
do as it must be just like duplicating a group.
cheers.
pygmee
5:30 a.m.
Am Donnerstag, den 18.05.2006, 02:52 -0700 schrieb Jon A. Cruz:
Depending on how robust things are, I may be able to add the eye and
lock icons, and to switch the status bar's layer selector to use the
same layer manager back-end. However, any poking at it people can do
in the mean time would be helpful.
Hi Jon,
the Layer-Dialog is really helpful. On thing that would be grate, and
I'm missing is drag and drop support. I'd like to drag an layer out of
inkscape into the path-dialog in gimp and back.
MfG Tobias
7:07 p.m.
On 5/19/06, cedric GEMY wrote:
1. Well we select an object on the canvas, the layer is
automatically
selected. Well.
But we a layer is activated how can i know the object included in ? May
be a Alt+Click on the layer line could show inner objects.
I've just been asked the very same question. Will it be possible to
reach individual objects from layers dialog?
Alexandre
11:21 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 14:07 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
I've just been asked the very same question. Will it be possible
to
reach individual objects from layers dialog?
No. The layers dialog is for working with layers only.
However, layers also show up in the XML dialog if you need to work with
individual objects or look at the contents of a layer that way. The XML
dialog will be also expanded in future versions to make working with SVG
objects easier.
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