Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] News item about the new manual work?

6 Jun 2017

      Hi Marietta and Everyone,
        That was my fault.  When you first messaged me, I didn't notice that you 
messaged me privately, off-list.  So everything I said, I thought everyone else 
was reading (except for the last one, where I realized it, and shared some 
personal info).
One of the things I said, which I thought the whole list was seeing, is 
getting Marietta's account connected with the manual.  I couldn't figure out how 
to do it.  I can see, apparently, everyone who is reg'd for Floss Manuals 
profiles.  But I don't see how to get into them to change anything.  I'm not 
sure if that has happened yet?  Looks like not?  I'll send Maren your username, 
and she can get it set properly.
Maren (it's Maren, not Marten) could be called the project manager, but 
C R and I are also co-admins (just in case Maren is not available for some 
urgent admin-level need).
For everyone else, Marietta certainly has the kind of skills we can use 
in this project!  It's up to her whether, or how much she wants to participate. 
Marietta, you could certainly jump in, even if you just notice a word or phrase 
which could be better.  Just to get your feet wet (as soon as your account is 
set properly).
When you see that you're set up, go to the Notes tab, and read through 
the guidelines.  Then you can decide if there's something you'd like to do.
Sorry for the mix-up.  And congrats for sticking with it, and speaking 
up again.
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message----- 
From: Marietta Walker
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:20 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] News item about the new manual 
work?
Thank you Marten,
I have been in touch with Brynn and I have offered to help if I can.
But I too was wondering who is the Project Manager, handling the task
analysis and the work assignments.  I really don't think you can have a
project of this level, with multiple people involved, and not have
someone assessing skill levels, tracking task completion, determining
milestones, and communicating progress.
Your Project Manager must also be given the authority to ask questions
related to the tasks and resources needed to complete the assigned
progress and to expect an answer. I have been waiting for someone to
contact me related to the skill set I possess to let me know if I can
help at all.
Brynn I am sorry, I thought you were the Project Manager, so I shared my
skill set with you, thinking you were putting together people and skills.
Maren seems to be moving along and as she mentioned, you do need someone
familiar with Inkscape, which I am not.  I just started using it a few
months ago to do basic 2D drawings for quilting projects.
If I can help, I will be glad to do so, but I do have limitations in
knowing the software.
Regards
Marietta
On 6/4/2017 10:09 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
...
Can someone help Maren?
I feel like a news article and a deviantArt post would be useful for
drumming up volunteers.
But also, for a project director when just getting started, it's useful
to hand out jobs, so people know that they are needed and that they
don't have to think too much about which of the jobs they should do
while figuring out the software/editing platform.
Thoughts?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sun, 2017-06-04 at 14:46 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote:
...
CR, I have been translating (and fixing contents as I go) 1-2
chapters
each day for the last 2.5 weeks and am more than halfway through (35
chapters done, 24 left to do). There wasn't anyone else to be seen
around, after the first week, when one person translated a chapter
(unfortunately they picked the only one that needs to be rewritten
from
scratch, because Inkscape changed), and two people proofread a couple
of
chapters (thank you!!!). Well, and a couple of days ago, someone
seems
to have accidentally wiped all the notes on the book, that were
supposed
to help get people started (or maybe it was a platform bug).
I'd be glad to see some proofreading and styling/screenshooting
people
get on board, so we can continue seamlessly after I'm through with
translating.
I'm a bit disappointed about everyone being so engaged and vocal
about
helping/liking the action, and now me working on it alone for > 2
weeks
already.
But that's normal, I guess - it was the reason why I haven't started
this earlier, and I felt ready to take it on now, no matter what.
Anyway, I'm going to continue to plow through, then translations will
be
ready before the hackfest. In parallel, I'm going to be plowing
through
my new garden, and to help fix up someone else's house, so I expect
to
not have time for much else.
I'd be glad if someone could try and reengage people to help with the
manual (preferably people who are able to work independently and know
Inkscape inside out, or who concentrate on something they really do
well, like fixing up language or styling).
There are more than enough open tasks:
from CSS to cover design, to screenshooting, to consistency checking
and
layouting, to improving on my more or less weird English, to adding
missing content (or perhaps, translating, of course).
And yet, when we do this, I think it's important to take care to
honor
the underlying 'Keep it simple and as short as possible' concept of
the
book, which would make it possible for young teenagers to use it to
get
started, without much theoretical ballast.
Elisa seems to have invested a *lot* of thought into how she built up
the chapters and when to start teaching which concept. I suspect her
concept stems from experience in teaching live Inkscape courses.
Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:32 schrieb C R:
...
I'd say let's wait and do a progress report, so we can say that
we're
making progress on it, rather than just that we've decided to do
it. I
plan on helping this area of the project much more after I handle
the
hackfest swag. It would be better to have a more or less complete
manual before we announce it to the public, unless it's a call for
help with it.
If it's a call for help with that area of the project, then go
ahead, though. :)
Thanks for the amazing amount of work you're doing for the project,
brynn. It's definitely helping drive my own motivation for Inkscape
project work. :)
-C
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, brynn <brynn@...78...> wrote:
...
Hi Friends,
        As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming
hackfest, I
suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short
item about the
recent new work on the new manual?
    I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article.  I'm

thinking
Maren might be able to get all the details correct, the first
time around?
Although I don't mean to volunteer her.  As I said, I could do it
myself, if
we decide to do it.
    I think it would help in community-building, to keep the

wider
community up to date about these things.  What do other manual
workers and
Docs list subscribers think?
All best,
brynn

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