I'm a bit disappointed about everyone being so engaged and vocal about
helping/liking the action, and now me working on it alone for > 2 weeks already. But that's normal, I guess - it was the reason why I haven't started this earlier, and I felt ready to take it on now, no matter what.
Don't worry, Maren. I'm still on top of helping with the manual. It's just life offline keeps pulling me away from computer lately.
I will start proofing as soon as I can get this moderation stuff settled.
For working on the graphics, as you have outlined, I have some blockers on that. Somewhere I've mentioned them, but I don't think they were answered. (I think I put comments in the Notes tab, below the line of *. But I see now that that line of * is gone, and so are the comments I made.)
Starting on Interface chapter:
1 -- graphics are not proportional, they're stretched long and squeezed side to side 2 -- the interface that's being used, uses a non-default display mode (with command bar on the right) 3 -- the interface is using some custom icon set
Before we start working on the graphics issues, these things need to be addressed, in my opinion (otherwise we might have to eventually duplicate some work).
I think we need to be using the most default interface screenshots as possible. And of course, the graphics should be displayed in proper proportions.
The most important thing to decide, is where the new graphics will come from. Should be someone with not such an ugly theme (color) as mine. Should be someone who is committed to providing the graphics and won't disappear. Should be using a default display mode and icon set.
I wonder if it's possible in Windows, if I make a new user account, that account could use a different theme? I'll investigate. If I can, I'll provide the graphics.
I'm changing the title of this message to start a separate thread on the graphics issues. (I see a long string of replies to making a News item, and I suspect there may be a few different issues. I'm off to read more now :-) (Also switching to only Docs list)
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:46 AM To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] News item about the new manual work?
CR, I have been translating (and fixing contents as I go) 1-2 chapters each day for the last 2.5 weeks and am more than halfway through (35 chapters done, 24 left to do). There wasn't anyone else to be seen around, after the first week, when one person translated a chapter (unfortunately they picked the only one that needs to be rewritten from scratch, because Inkscape changed), and two people proofread a couple of chapters (thank you!!!). Well, and a couple of days ago, someone seems to have accidentally wiped all the notes on the book, that were supposed to help get people started (or maybe it was a platform bug).
I'd be glad to see some proofreading and styling/screenshooting people get on board, so we can continue seamlessly after I'm through with translating.
I'm a bit disappointed about everyone being so engaged and vocal about helping/liking the action, and now me working on it alone for > 2 weeks already. But that's normal, I guess - it was the reason why I haven't started this earlier, and I felt ready to take it on now, no matter what.
Anyway, I'm going to continue to plow through, then translations will be ready before the hackfest. In parallel, I'm going to be plowing through my new garden, and to help fix up someone else's house, so I expect to not have time for much else.
I'd be glad if someone could try and reengage people to help with the manual (preferably people who are able to work independently and know Inkscape inside out, or who concentrate on something they really do well, like fixing up language or styling).
There are more than enough open tasks: from CSS to cover design, to screenshooting, to consistency checking and layouting, to improving on my more or less weird English, to adding missing content (or perhaps, translating, of course).
And yet, when we do this, I think it's important to take care to honor the underlying 'Keep it simple and as short as possible' concept of the book, which would make it possible for young teenagers to use it to get started, without much theoretical ballast. Elisa seems to have invested a *lot* of thought into how she built up the chapters and when to start teaching which concept. I suspect her concept stems from experience in teaching live Inkscape courses.
Maren
Am 04.06.2017 um 13:32 schrieb C R:
I'd say let's wait and do a progress report, so we can say that we're making progress on it, rather than just that we've decided to do it. I plan on helping this area of the project much more after I handle the hackfest swag. It would be better to have a more or less complete manual before we announce it to the public, unless it's a call for help with it.
If it's a call for help with that area of the project, then go ahead, though. :)
Thanks for the amazing amount of work you're doing for the project, brynn. It's definitely helping drive my own motivation for Inkscape project work. :)
-C
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, brynn <brynn@...78...> wrote:
Hi Friends, As I'm writing up a quick draft to announce the upcoming hackfest, I suddenly wondered if it might be a good idea to write a short item about the recent new work on the new manual?
I could do that, after I finish the hackfest article. I'm thinkingMaren might be able to get all the details correct, the first time around? Although I don't mean to volunteer her. As I said, I could do it myself, if we decide to do it.
I think it would help in community-building, to keep the widercommunity up to date about these things. What do other manual workers and Docs list subscribers think?
All best, brynn
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