Hi, I took the liberty of changing the topic in order to fork this trhead. 2009/10/8 Joshua A. Andler <scislac@...5...> > Lucas, > > I agree that it would be helpful for it to be as final as possible. > Being a native English speaker, I assumed that having knowledge in > advance would be advantageous to get most of the work out of the way. > Apparently the translation process is more specific and intricate than I > had assumed. Lucas, can you suggest what would be most helpful to > translators? Not saying anything until it's finalized? Stating what is > completely finalized? > This last option would be great. The main problem with translating wiki texts is that it's difficult to see what has changed from one version of the text to another. I know there's an option to see the changes in a page, that's part of the wiki philosophy, but when using "third party" translation tools that becomes almost useless. For example, I use a tool called "OmegaT" to translate web pages. The workflow is as follows (for almost all types of texts): 1- download the html page 2- segment the file (the software separates the text in "translation units"; phrases, titles, etc.) 3- translate all the segments 4- put the file back together in the target language 5- upload the translated file Now imagine the original file changes, the workflow is almost the same: 1- download the html page 2- segment the file (this separates the text in "translation units"; phrases, titles, etc.) 3- the software detects the segments that are not the same and marks them as "fuzzy" (usually indicating a percentage of coincidence) 4- translate the changed and new segments 5- put the file back together in the target language With wiki texts the worklow fails at #1. You cannot download the text to be interpreted by the software, so it all becomes a manual process (back to the ice age of comparing texts one next to the other, yuk). I don't know a real solution yet, maybe there's space here for an open-source "Wiki Translation" project ;-) such as those discussed at http://wiki-translation.com/ Anyway, We'll do our best !!! > > Cheers, > Josh > > On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:52 +0200, Lucas Vieites wrote: > > Hi, > > I just copied the English text to the existing "es" page: > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Inkscape047-PRannounce-es > > but I think there's parts of the text that can/should be omitted in > > the final press release. > > Also, It's very difficult to keep a translation up to date in a wiki > > if the original is not finished, So it would be very useful if the > > press release is as much finished as possible before translation > > begins. > > Are we at this point? > > Are major changes in the press release to be expected? > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > Lucas Vieites > > Blog: http://blog.codexion.com/ > > > > > > 2009/10/8 Lucas Vieites <lucas@...162...> > > Hi, > > I'll take care of the spanish version if that's OK. > > -- > > Lucas Vieites > > Blog: http://blog.codexion.com/ > > > > > > 2009/10/7 Uwe Schöler <mail@...152...> > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > we need help in translating the announcement for the > > new release > > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047 > > > > > > to different languages. It's easy with the wiki and if > > someone needs > > help with it, he or she can email me or catch me in > > the inkscape channel. > > I started the translation for German > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047_de > > > > Sincerely, > > > > UweSch > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua A. Andler schrieb: > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > I forgot to post to the user and translator lists > > because I was too > > > excited. :) > > > > > > I think we closed out the last of the blocker bugs > > today! > > > > > > So, will people please help ensure that the release > > notes are up to > > > date? I'm headed there in just a minute to document > > my latest changes. > > > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47 > > > > > > Regarding PR, I am going to continue with what was > > started here: > > > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047 > > > If you are an inkscape user who wants to contribute, > > even if you can't > > > program, this is the perfect way to give back to the > > community. Please > > > help us flesh this out and refine it. > > > > > > Packagers, please package up Pre3 if you have not > > already done so as a > > > practice run... and honestly, I think it would be > > safe to plan a release > > > for next week (between Monday the 5th and Friday the > > 9th), provided > > > packages are available and no new issues arise. > > > > > > Any objections to this proposed plan? Any thoughts > > on if releasing on a > > > specific day of the week will get more notice? > > > > > > Oh, and translators... please get any updates > > submitted asap. Thanks! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry&reg; Developer > > Conference in SF, CA > > > is the only developer event you need to attend this > > year. Jumpstart your > > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile > > applications to market and stay > > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9&#45;12, > > 2009. 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