Hi all,

is it possible to post a translations status per language in % english 100% suaheli 5%

or so.

This would allow the possible volunteers to see how worth is it to help or on the other side maybe to kick (or hide) one very outdated translation.

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matiphas@...9... schrieb:

Hi all,

Bryce, replying to a new potential volunteer on the devel ML (and forwarding him on this list) has given some very appreciated information : a sum up of the contacts for the documentation tasks :

-Translations: Arpad and this ML

-Tutorials : Scislac or Bulia

-Planet inkscape Jon Philips

-Screenshots Scislac

-Gallery Bryce

On the other hand a user has pointed out that some translations have not been maintained for a while (in fact since Inkscape has forked from Sodipodi)

This raises two flags in my opinion :

• this WE, I'll get a look at the .po files and see what's the translation

status for them.

• maybe we should give some more explicit information about translators : such

as displaying a page in the wiki with information about 'who is translating what' and 'how to contact them'

Example : Translation coordinator: Arpad -> contact Translator ML: this list

Spanish: es.po, Lucas -> contact Spanish (Mexican): es_MX.po, Daniel -> contact

(etc)

Regards,

matiphas

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Btw, there is a script in the inkscape_project module that calculates those parameters.

Bryce

On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 12:25:29PM +0200, matiphas@...9... wrote:

I think so : Bryce used to post this kind of info for the global status of translations. I'll try to do the following :

• Number of strings to translate
• Date of last update
• % of untranslated strings
• % of fuzzy strings

Regards,

Matiphas

Selon Adib Taraben <taraben.a@...16...>:

...

Hi all,

is it possible to post a translations status per language in % english 100% suaheli 5%

or so.

This would allow the possible volunteers to see how worth is it to help or on the other side maybe to kick (or hide) one very outdated translation.

Adib.

matiphas@...9... schrieb:

...

Hi all,

Bryce, replying to a new potential volunteer on the devel ML (and

forwarding him

...

on this list) has given some very appreciated information : a sum up of the contacts for the documentation tasks :

-Translations: Arpad and this ML

-Tutorials : Scislac or Bulia

-Planet inkscape Jon Philips

-Screenshots Scislac

-Gallery Bryce

On the other hand a user has pointed out that some translations have not

been

...

maintained for a while (in fact since Inkscape has forked from Sodipodi)

This raises two flags in my opinion :

• this WE, I'll get a look at the .po files and see what's the translation

status for them.

• maybe we should give some more explicit information about translators :

such

...

as displaying a page in the wiki with information about 'who is translating what' and 'how to contact them'

Example : Translation coordinator: Arpad -> contact Translator ML: this list

Spanish: es.po, Lucas -> contact Spanish (Mexican): es_MX.po, Daniel -> contact

(etc)

Regards,

matiphas

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Hi,

I've faced an issue with translation of Inkscape and would like to know if some others have the same problem :

In my case, the license name strings of the "License" tab in "Document Metadata" are displayed in English whereas they correctly translated in the .po files. (Inkscape 0.43+ - svn from May 14th, on windows XP) Does someone else has the same problem ?

Regards, Matiphas

Selon Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...>:

On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:39:43AM +0200, matiphas@...9... wrote:

...

Hi,

I've faced an issue with translation of Inkscape and would like to know if

some

...

others have the same problem :

In my case, the license name strings of the "License" tab in "Document

Metadata"

...

are displayed in English whereas they correctly translated in the .po

files.

...

(Inkscape 0.43+ - svn from May 14th, on windows XP) Does someone else has the same problem ?

This is what I see in the source code:

document-metadata.cpp: _notebook.append_page(_page_metadata2, _("License")); document-metadata.cpp: llabel->set_markup (_("<b>License</b>"));

By chance are you noticing one instance of 'License' in the dialog translated, and another not? In this case perhaps only one of the above versions is appearing in the .po files?

Well, I noticed this problem with the license names such as ( FreeArt, GNU GPL, public domain, CC...) Looks like the issue is in /src/dialogs/rdf.cpp Taking a look at the svn from the web, it looks like the strings are marked as 'translatable' in the "struct"s (beginning of the file) but not in the codelines dedicated to display them.

I'll try to set up a build environment on my linux machine this WE and see what I can do.

Regards,

matiphas

On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:17:32PM +0200, matiphas@...9... wrote:

Selon matiphas@...9...:

...

...

This is what I see in the source code:

document-metadata.cpp: _notebook.append_page(_page_metadata2, _("License")); document-metadata.cpp: llabel->set_markup (_("<b>License</b>"));

By chance are you noticing one instance of 'License' in the dialog translated, and another not? In this case perhaps only one of the above versions is appearing in the .po files?

"License" (string labelling the tab) is correctly displayed (the translated string is displayed in the tab label).

...

Well, I noticed this problem with the license names such as ( FreeArt, GNU GPL, public domain, CC...) Looks like the issue is in /src/dialogs/rdf.cpp Taking a look at the svn from the web, it looks like the strings are marked as 'translatable' in the "struct"s (beginning of the file) but not in the codelines dedicated to display them.

And those codelines are in /src/ui/dialog/document-metadata.cpp right here

199 : 200 : _page_metadata2.show(); 201 : 202 : row = 0; 203 : Gtk::Label *llabel = manage (new Gtk::Label); 204 : llabel->set_markup (_("<b>License</b>")); 205 : llabel->set_alignment (0.0); 206 : _page_metadata2.table().attach (*llabel, 0,3, row, row+1, Gtk::FILL, (Gtk::AttachOptions)0,0,0); 207 : /* add license selector pull-down and URI */ 208 : ++row; 209 : _licensor.init (_tt, _wr); 210 : Gtk::HBox *space = manage (new Gtk::HBox); 211 : space->set_size_request (SPACE_SIZE_X, SPACE_SIZE_Y); 212 : _page_metadata2.table().attach (*space, 0,1, row, row+1, Gtk::FILL, (Gtk::AttachOptions)0,0,0); 213 : _page_metadata2.table().attach (_licensor, 1,3, row, row+1, Gtk::EXPAND|Gtk::FILL, (Gtk::AttachOptions)0,0,0); 214 : }

Actually, if I understand the issue correctly, the relevant code is a bit higher up:

188: for (entity = rdf_work_entities; entity && entity->name; entity++, row++) { 189: if ( entity->editable == RDF_EDIT_GENERIC ) { 190: EntityEntry *w = EntityEntry::create (entity, _tt, _wr); 191: _rdflist.push_back (w); 192: Gtk::HBox *space = manage (new Gtk::HBox); 193: space->set_size_request (SPACE_SIZE_X, SPACE_SIZE_Y); 194: _page_metadata1.table().attach (*space, 0,1, row, row+1, Gtk::FILL, (Gtk::AttachOptions)0,0,0); 195: _page_metadata1.table().attach (w->_label, 1,2, row, row+1, Gtk::FILL, (Gtk::AttachOptions)0,0,0); 196: _page_metadata1.table().attach (*w->_packable, 2,3, row, row+1, Gtk::FILL|Gtk::EXPAND, (Gtk::AttachOptions)0,0,0); 197: } 198: }

Try replacing line 195 with this one:

195: _page_metadata1.table().attach (_(w->_label), 1,2, row, row+1, Gtk::FILL, (Gtk::AttachOptions)0,0,0);

Bryce

On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:14:28AM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:

...

Taking a look at the svn from the web, it looks like the strings are marked as 'translatable' in the "struct"s (beginning of the file) but not in the codelines dedicated to display them.

Looks like rwst tried to make them translatable (but didn't recognize that they're part of an array -- which needs N_ instead of _, and needs code refs, as you say.

Ahh, gotcha. I'm CCing Kees in case he has some suggestions as well.

I didn't originally make them translatable, since they're names. Does the name "Inkscape" get translated? However, the licenses are somewhat descriptive ("public domain") so I guess it makes sense. :)

I'll see if I can cook up a patch.

On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 10:56:19AM +0200, Xavier Conde Rueda wrote:

Yes, license names are translated sometimes.

...

I'll see if I can cook up a patch.

Cool. last night I committed a patch to correctly allow for localization of the license name. Seems to be working AFAICT.

Thanks for catching that!

...

...

Yes, license names are translated sometimes.

...

I'll see if I can cook up a patch.

Cool. last night I committed a patch to correctly allow for localization of the license name. Seems to be working AFAICT.

Thanks for catching that!

Thanks a lot Kees (I'll check this in the next build)

Just checked : it's ok now for me.

Thanks again Kees.

Regards

Selon Luca Bruno <gnug.torte@...20...>:

It should reach 100% next weekend :)

...

Total number of PO files: 38 Significantly translated PO file count: 7 Average number of strings translated: 1973 ( 93 %) Significantly translated locales: ca cs de es fr lt sl

In fact, in my opinion, we've got 4 main categories :

1 maintained and up to date (>= 80%) : 8 ca cs de es fr it lt sl

2 maintained and simply needing a synchronization (>= 60%) : 10 eu hu ja nl nn pl pt_BR ru uk zh_TW

3 used to be maintained and needing some work (>=40%) : 4 el pa sk sr

4 not maintained at all (the others) : 11+3 am az be da et ga gl ko mk nb sv es_MX, but es is a potential good back-up pt, but pt_BR is a potential good back-up zh_CN, but zh_TW is a potential good back-up (not sure of this in fact)

-> in fact i'd rather say, we can count on 18 translations + 10 others if we can find some motivated people. (hey, that's quite a lot)

-> the 11+3 others are completely different IMO and need *very* motivated volunteers, the workload being quite big -> and of course, those that are not listed...

Maybe should we ask for motivated volunteers ? - mail on the other MLs (devel + user) - message on the web page - mail to translation organizations (GNOME, KDE, Rosetta ... ?)

Regards

Matiphas

Hi,

just wanted to know if there was any decision or action taken on this issue.

If you agree, i can ask for help on fedora translation list, on which i'm subscribed. Also, i can do some research for GNOME translation teams.

Regards.

2006/5/17, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...>:

On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:26:38PM +0200, matiphas@...9... wrote:

...

Selon Luca Bruno <gnug.torte@...20...>:

...

It should reach 100% next weekend :)

...

Total number of PO files: 38 Significantly translated PO file count: 7 Average number of strings translated: 1973 ( 93 %) Significantly translated locales: ca cs de es fr lt sl

In fact, in my opinion, we've got 4 main categories :

1 maintained and up to date (>= 80%) : 8 ca cs de es fr it lt sl

2 maintained and simply needing a synchronization (>= 60%) : 10 eu hu ja nl nn pl pt_BR ru uk zh_TW

3 used to be maintained and needing some work (>=40%) : 4 el pa sk sr

4 not maintained at all (the others) : 11+3 am az be da et ga gl ko mk nb sv es_MX, but es is a potential good back-up pt, but pt_BR is a potential good back-up zh_CN, but zh_TW is a potential good back-up (not sure of this in fact)

-> in fact i'd rather say, we can count on 18 translations + 10 others if we can find some motivated people. (hey, that's quite a lot)

-> the 11+3 others are completely different IMO and need *very* motivated volunteers, the workload being quite big -> and of course, those that are not listed...

Maybe should we ask for motivated volunteers ?

• mail on the other MLs (devel + user)
• message on the web page
• mail to translation organizations (GNOME, KDE, Rosetta ... ?)

Also, other ideas:

• Artist lists/forums where speakers of the other languages hang out
• Mailing lists of distributions with strong international focus (RedFlag, Conectiva, Vine Linux, etc.)
• Mailing lists of foreign Linux user groups

Bryce

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Le dimanche 28 mai 2006 à 12:48 -0700, Bryce Harrington a écrit :

On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 06:52:01PM +0200, Xavier Conde Rueda wrote:

...

Hi,

just wanted to know if there was any decision or action taken on this issue.

If you agree, i can ask for help on fedora translation list, on which i'm subscribed. Also, i can do some research for GNOME translation teams.

Yes, it'd be great to move forward on this.

Bryce

I'd also suggest the following message on the website :

Thanks to the work of an Inkscape user (Chrisjia), the translation status of zh_CN (Chinese) has raised from 5% to 99%.

Plus the following status : Total number of localizable strings: 2142 am translated: 77 ( 3 %), fuzzy: 592 ( 27 %), untranslated: 1473 ( 68 %), total: 2142

az translated: 63 ( 2 %), fuzzy: 853 ( 39 %), untranslated: 1226 ( 57 %), total: 2142

be translated: 158 ( 7 %), fuzzy: 945 ( 44 %), untranslated: 1039 ( 48 %), total: 2142

ca translated: 2039 ( 95 %), fuzzy: 24 ( 1 %), untranslated: 79 ( 3 %), total: 2142

cs translated: 2096 ( 97 %), fuzzy: 18 ( 0 %), untranslated: 28 ( 1 %), total: 2142

da translated: 100 ( 4 %), fuzzy: 980 ( 45 %), untranslated: 1062 ( 49 %), total: 2142

de translated: 2116 ( 98 %), fuzzy: 6 ( 0 %), untranslated: 20 ( 0 %), total: 2142

el translated: 44 ( 2 %), fuzzy: 998 ( 46 %), untranslated: 1100 ( 51 %), total: 2142

es translated: 2125 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 6 ( 0 %), untranslated: 11 ( 0 %), total: 2142

es_MX translated: 337 ( 15 %), fuzzy: 930 ( 43 %), untranslated: 875 ( 40 %), total: 2142

et translated: 9 ( 0 %), fuzzy: 778 ( 36 %), untranslated: 1355 ( 63 %), total: 2142

eu translated: 1548 ( 72 %), fuzzy: 340 ( 15 %), untranslated: 254 ( 11 %), total: 2142

fr translated: 2126 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 6 ( 0 %), untranslated: 10 ( 0 %), total: 2142

ga translated: 14 ( 0 %), fuzzy: 719 ( 33 %), untranslated: 1409 ( 65 %), total: 2142

gl translated: 82 ( 3 %), fuzzy: 963 ( 44 %), untranslated: 1097 ( 51 %), total: 2142

hu translated: 1548 ( 72 %), fuzzy: 339 ( 15 %), untranslated: 255 ( 11 %), total: 2142

it translated: 2008 ( 93 %), fuzzy: 65 ( 3 %), untranslated: 69 ( 3 %), total: 2142

ja translated: 1294 ( 60 %), fuzzy: 423 ( 19 %), untranslated: 425 ( 19 %), total: 2142

ko translated: 180 ( 8 %), fuzzy: 18 ( 0 %), untranslated: 1944 ( 90 %), total: 2142

lt translated: 1774 ( 82 %), fuzzy: 30 ( 1 %), untranslated: 338 ( 15 %), total: 2142

mk translated: 0 ( 0 %), fuzzy: 606 ( 28 %), untranslated: 1536 ( 71 %), total: 2142

nb translated: 144 ( 6 %), fuzzy: 916 ( 42 %), untranslated: 1082 ( 50 %), total: 2142

nl translated: 1484 ( 69 %), fuzzy: 387 ( 18 %), untranslated: 271 ( 12 %), total: 2142

nn translated: 1376 ( 64 %), fuzzy: 410 ( 19 %), untranslated: 356 ( 16 %), total: 2142

pa translated: 912 ( 42 %), fuzzy: 349 ( 16 %), untranslated: 881 ( 41 %), total: 2142

pl translated: 1503 ( 70 %), fuzzy: 374 ( 17 %), untranslated: 265 ( 12 %), total: 2142

pt translated: 183 ( 8 %), fuzzy: 1004 ( 46 %), untranslated: 955 ( 44 %), total: 2142

pt_BR translated: 1546 ( 72 %), fuzzy: 349 ( 16 %), untranslated: 247 ( 11 %), total: 2142

ru translated: 1542 ( 71 %), fuzzy: 339 ( 15 %), untranslated: 261 ( 12 %), total: 2142

sk translated: 845 ( 39 %), fuzzy: 659 ( 30 %), untranslated: 638 ( 29 %), total: 2142

sl translated: 2055 ( 95 %), fuzzy: 27 ( 1 %), untranslated: 60 ( 2 %), total: 2142

sr translated: 1359 ( 63 %), fuzzy: 414 ( 19 %), untranslated: 369 ( 17 %), total: 2142

sr@...18... translated: 1359 ( 63 %), fuzzy: 414 ( 19 %), untranslated: 369 ( 17 %), total: 2142

sv translated: 410 ( 19 %), fuzzy: 848 ( 39 %), untranslated: 884 ( 41 %), total: 2142

tr translated: 907 ( 42 %), fuzzy: 567 ( 26 %), untranslated: 668 ( 31 %), total: 2142

uk translated: 1518 ( 70 %), fuzzy: 371 ( 17 %), untranslated: 253 ( 11 %), total: 2142

zh_CN translated: 2134 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 3 ( 0 %), untranslated: 5 ( 0 %), total: 2142

zh_TW translated: 1550 ( 72 %), fuzzy: 340 ( 15 %), untranslated: 252 ( 11 %), total: 2142

Average translated: 1067 ( 49 %), fuzzy: 458 ( 21 %), untranslated: 616 ( 28 %)

Total number of PO files: 38 Significantly translated PO file count: 9 Average number of strings translated: 2052 ( 95 %) Significantly translated locales: ca cs de es fr it lt sl zh_CN

...

2006/5/17, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...>:

...

On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:26:38PM +0200, matiphas@...9... wrote:

...

Selon Luca Bruno <gnug.torte@...20...>:

...

It should reach 100% next weekend :)

...

Total number of PO files: 38 Significantly translated PO file count: 7 Average number of strings translated: 1973 ( 93 %) Significantly translated locales: ca cs de es fr lt sl

In fact, in my opinion, we've got 4 main categories :

1 maintained and up to date (>= 80%) : 8 ca cs de es fr it lt sl

2 maintained and simply needing a synchronization (>= 60%) : 10 eu hu ja nl nn pl pt_BR ru uk zh_TW

3 used to be maintained and needing some work (>=40%) : 4 el pa sk sr

4 not maintained at all (the others) : 11+3 am az be da et ga gl ko mk nb sv es_MX, but es is a potential good back-up pt, but pt_BR is a potential good back-up zh_CN, but zh_TW is a potential good back-up (not sure of this in fact)

-> in fact i'd rather say, we can count on 18 translations + 10 others

if we can

...

find some motivated people. (hey, that's quite a lot)

-> the 11+3 others are completely different IMO and need *very* motivated volunteers, the workload being quite big -> and of course, those that are not listed...

Maybe should we ask for motivated volunteers ?

• mail on the other MLs (devel + user)
• message on the web page
• mail to translation organizations (GNOME, KDE, Rosetta ... ?)

Also, other ideas:

• Artist lists/forums where speakers of the other languages hang out
• Mailing lists of distributions with strong international focus (RedFlag, Conectiva, Vine Linux, etc.)
• Mailing lists of foreign Linux user groups

Bryce

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Le dimanche 28 mai 2006 à 15:34 -0700, Bryce Harrington a écrit :

Cool, good idea. To save space I just listed the %translated for each language. If anyone feels like improving the layout, please do; I fussed with some CSS and tables to get things to lineup nicer but it was beyond my css-fu.

Wow, looks like it'd be a great goal to get the languages that are at 70-72% up to at least 80% so they count as significantly translated.

Bryce

Wow, very nice message. Thanks a lot Bryce.

This week i'll try to update l10_status scipt, so that it directly provides pre-formated (html ? xml ? wiki_code ?) output, that can be directly copied-pasted on a page.

Regards,

matiphas

Hi,

On Mon, 29 May 2006 01:44:17 +0200, Matiphas <matiphas@...9...> wrote:

Le dimanche 28 mai 2006 à 15:34 -0700, Bryce Harrington a écrit :

...

Cool, good idea. To save space I just listed the %translated for each language. If anyone feels like improving the layout, please do; I fussed with some CSS and tables to get things to lineup nicer but it was beyond my css-fu.

Bryce

This week i'll try to update l10_status scipt, so that it directly provides pre-formated (html ? xml ? wiki_code ?) output, that can be directly copied-pasted on a page.

I've updated the css file to beautify the list of translations on the news page. Also the structure of translations' list in article created by Bryce has been modified. I've removed the table and set lists to float so they will wrap if the page has width smaller then required.

Matiphas, the template for l10_status script now looks as the code below.(I hope it will make it through, otherwise plese consult the source code of the article for details, thanks.)

One idea at the end, is there any page where this status can users see without putting it on a homepage in news? it would be good to link it from the "TranslatingInkscape" page for user to let them see how is the progress there. The page could be static, generated by the script after each commit of updated translations. If such a page is already there then I suggest to link it :)

Best regards Josef "cornelius" Vybiral

<!-- Begin of template --> <div class="list-of-translations"> <ul class="list-of-translations"> <li> am: 3% </li> <li> az: 2% </li> <li> be: 7% </li> <li> <b>ca: 95%</b> </li> <!-- significantly translated --> <li> <b>cs: 97%</b> </li> <li> da: 4% </li> <li> <b>de: 98%</b> </li> <li> el: 2% </li> </ul>

<ul class="list-of-translations"> <li> <b>es: 99%</b> </li> ... <!-- another part of the list --> </ul> ...

<div class="clear"> </div> <!-- the "clear" div is required to position next paragraphs properly --> </div> <!-- End of template -->

On Tue, 30 May 2006 01:35:46 +0200, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...> wrote:

It floats okay in konqueror, but not in firefox... Also, is there any way you can get the columns to line up a bit better? I.e., the first letter in each column should be aligned, and the percent sign on each number should be aligned within the column. I think this will make the list look cleaner.

Can you send me a screenshot of it in FF please? (+its version). The CSS has been tested in FF 1.5, Opera 8.0 and MSIE 6.0 and everywhere looked the same.

As you wish, aligned to the left, I will submit it from the office. And maybe redo it to the table to have much nicer columns.

Josef

One question,

why isn't inkscape.pot on the trunk? If the user has to create the template him/herself, one has to checkout the SVN trunk and run "make update-po", which can be a hell of work for people not familiar with it. In fact, I think from my experience some translators aren't hackers, so they feel comfortable translating, but checking a module can seem too complicated to start with. Even when a translation exist, sometimes you need the .pot too to merge changes.

Regards.

2006/5/30, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...>:

On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 06:57:55AM +0200, Josef Vybiral wrote:

...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 01:35:46 +0200, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...> wrote:

...

It floats okay in konqueror, but not in firefox... Also, is there any way you can get the columns to line up a bit better? I.e., the first letter in each column should be aligned, and the percent sign on each number should be aligned within the column. I think this will make the list look cleaner.

Can you send me a screenshot of it in FF please? (+its version). The CSS has been tested in FF 1.5, Opera 8.0 and MSIE 6.0 and everywhere looked the same.

http://www.bryceharrington.org/inkscape-site.png

Firefox Version 1.0.7

Bryce

...

As you wish, aligned to the left, I will submit it from the office. And maybe redo it to the table to have much nicer columns.

Josef

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Hi,

why isn't inkscape.pot on the trunk?

There used to be a POT file, but was removed not so long ago. As Ralf wrote to me: "it is no longer necessary to commit inkscape.pot, in fact, it confuses people, and the file will be created automatically by packagers now." So please ask Ralf if you still want that file.

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Hi,

inkscape.pot is now on SVN, and it can be downloaded from web interface too. I will update the wiki page so no more checkout is needed!

2006/5/30, Xavier Conde Rueda <xavi.conde@...5...>:

Don't know why people gets confused...

Can you tell me how to fill a RFE, or Ralf's mail? Is he on the list?

Thanks in advance.

2006/5/30, Arpad Biro <biro_arpad@...7...>:

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Hi,

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why isn't inkscape.pot on the trunk?

There used to be a POT file, but was removed not so long ago. As Ralf wrote to me: "it is no longer necessary to commit inkscape.pot, in fact, it confuses people, and the file will be created automatically by packagers now." So please ask Ralf if you still want that file.

Arpad Biro

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Hi Matiphas,

Could you show a list of the ones that changed? Also, is the HTML export version working? It'd be nice to post about the changes to the website.

Bryce

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 08:46:18PM +0200, Matiphas wrote:

Hi all,

Updated translation status (see below) Average translation rate has jumped from 49 to 52 %

Plus even if it is not complete yet, it looks like the TestPage on wiki has received a lot of updates/improvements. Would you agree to see it replacing the present Translation page just after 0.44 ?

Regards,

Matiphas

Total number of localizable strings: 2146

am translated: 77 ( 3 %), fuzzy: 593 ( 27 %), untranslated: 1476 ( 68 %), total : 2146

az translated: 63 ( 2 %), fuzzy: 857 ( 39 %), untranslated: 1226 ( 57 %), total : 2146

be translated: 158 ( 7 %), fuzzy: 949 ( 44 %), untranslated: 1039 ( 48 %), total : 2146

ca translated: 2034 ( 94 %), fuzzy: 33 ( 1 %), untranslated: 79 ( 3 %), total : 2146

cs translated: 2142 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 1 ( 0 %), untranslated: 3 ( 0 %), total : 2146

da translated: 100 ( 4 %), fuzzy: 984 ( 45 %), untranslated: 1062 ( 49 %), total : 2146

de translated: 2130 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 5 ( 0 %), untranslated: 11 ( 0 %), total : 2146

el translated: 44 ( 2 %), fuzzy: 1002 ( 46 %), untranslated: 1100 ( 51 %), total : 2146

es translated: 2118 ( 98 %), fuzzy: 17 ( 0 %), untranslated: 11 ( 0 %), total : 2146

es_MX translated: 337 ( 15 %), fuzzy: 935 ( 43 %), untranslated: 874 ( 40 %), total : 2146

et translated: 9 ( 0 %), fuzzy: 781 ( 36 %), untranslated: 1356 ( 63 %), total : 2146

eu translated: 1548 ( 72 %), fuzzy: 345 ( 16 %), untranslated: 253 ( 11 %), total : 2146

fr translated: 2144 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 0 ( 0 %), untranslated: 2 ( 0 %), total : 2146

ga translated: 14 ( 0 %), fuzzy: 723 ( 33 %), untranslated: 1409 ( 65 %), total : 2146

gl translated: 82 ( 3 %), fuzzy: 967 ( 45 %), untranslated: 1097 ( 51 %), total : 2146

hu translated: 1648 ( 76 %), fuzzy: 258 ( 12 %), untranslated: 240 ( 11 %), total : 2146

it translated: 2127 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 12 ( 0 %), untranslated: 7 ( 0 %), total : 2146

ja translated: 1294 ( 60 %), fuzzy: 428 ( 19 %), untranslated: 424 ( 19 %), total : 2146

ko translated: 866 ( 40 %), fuzzy: 7 ( 0 %), untranslated: 1273 ( 59 %), total : 2146

lt translated: 1934 ( 90 %), fuzzy: 5 ( 0 %), untranslated: 207 ( 9 %), total : 2146

mk translated: 0 ( 0 %), fuzzy: 608 ( 28 %), untranslated: 1538 ( 71 %), total : 2146

nb translated: 739 ( 34 %), fuzzy: 412 ( 19 %), untranslated: 995 ( 46 %), total : 2146

nl translated: 1484 ( 69 %), fuzzy: 392 ( 18 %), untranslated: 270 ( 12 %), total : 2146

nn translated: 1630 ( 75 %), fuzzy: 283 ( 13 %), untranslated: 233 ( 10 %), total : 2146

pa translated: 912 ( 42 %), fuzzy: 354 ( 16 %), untranslated: 880 ( 41 %), total : 2146

pl translated: 1503 ( 70 %), fuzzy: 379 ( 17 %), untranslated: 264 ( 12 %), total : 2146

pt translated: 183 ( 8 %), fuzzy: 1008 ( 46 %), untranslated: 955 ( 44 %), total : 2146

pt_BR translated: 1546 ( 72 %), fuzzy: 354 ( 16 %), untranslated: 246 ( 11 %), total : 2146

ru translated: 1542 ( 71 %), fuzzy: 344 ( 16 %), untranslated: 260 ( 12 %), total : 2146

sk translated: 845 ( 39 %), fuzzy: 664 ( 30 %), untranslated: 637 ( 29 %), total : 2146

sl translated: 2050 ( 95 %), fuzzy: 36 ( 1 %), untranslated: 60 ( 2 %), total : 2146

sr translated: 1359 ( 63 %), fuzzy: 419 ( 19 %), untranslated: 368 ( 17 %), total : 2146

sr@...18... translated: 1359 ( 63 %), fuzzy: 419 ( 19 %), untranslated: 368 ( 17 %), total : 2146

sv translated: 410 ( 19 %), fuzzy: 851 ( 39 %), untranslated: 885 ( 41 %), total : 2146

tr translated: 907 ( 42 %), fuzzy: 572 ( 26 %), untranslated: 667 ( 31 %), total : 2146

uk translated: 1518 ( 70 %), fuzzy: 376 ( 17 %), untranslated: 252 ( 11 %), total : 2146

zh_CN translated: 2125 ( 99 %), fuzzy: 14 ( 0 %), untranslated: 7 ( 0 %), total : 2146

zh_TW translated: 1550 ( 72 %), fuzzy: 345 ( 16 %), untranslated: 251 ( 11 %), total : 2146

Average translated: 1119 ( 52 %), fuzzy: 440 ( 20 %), untranslated: 586 ( 27 %)

Total number of PO files: 38 Significantly translated PO file count: 9 Average number of strings translated: 2089 ( 97 %) Significantly translated locales: ca cs de es fr it lt sl zh_CN

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On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 01:13:10AM +0200, Matiphas wrote:

Le vendredi 02 juin 2006 ?? 16:00 -0700, Bryce Harrington a ??crit :

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Hi Matiphas,

Could you show a list of the ones that changed? Also, is the HTML

Obviously : ko (8 to 40%), nb ( 6 to 34%) and nn (64 to 75%) are now ramping up , zh_CN has undergone a BIG boost (5 to 99%), hu is back in the race (72 to 76% and arpad looks like wanting to commit some othe things, but failed due to down svn), lt back in the race too (82 to 90%), and sk has maybe found a new volunteer.

Great, thanks! I'll add this to the homepage.

By the way, for anyone that is having svn commit issues: SourceForge just recently changed how the svn permissions work, which is why many people cannot commit. Please ask Jon Cruz to set your access if you need it.

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export version working? It'd be nice to post about the changes to the website.

I've been a bit busy this week. But should have some time before it ends. So will give it a shot tomorrow.

Great, thanks!

Bryce

One idea at the end, is there any page where this status can users see without putting it on a homepage in news? it would be good to link it from the "TranslatingInkscape" page for user to let them see how is the progress there. The page could be static, generated by the script after each commit of updated translations. If such a page is already there then I suggest to link it :)

I've just splitted the (now big) TestPage and created a TranslationStatus page

Thinking about continue splitting a little bit : keep 2 fisrt chapters (introduction/translatable content) create a specific page for - interface and templates - xml/docbook content - other docs - web/wiki content

Thoughts ?

Regards,

matiphas

Don't you think we should ask for translators? I think it would be useful to call for help through the news front page. For instance, GNOME project offcially supports those languages with more than 80 %, and I think there are only 8 languages with more than 80 % on Inkscape. This should be improved!

Also, it would be useful to have this kind of reports online, as GNOME, so people can access this information quickly:

http://l10n-status.gnome.org/gnome-2.14/index.html

We should also improve the translationinformation wiki page, with useful info for people who know nothing about translating. It should cover a full process flow:

· contact to a local translation group, to get support and help on your language · subscribe to this list, · get files from svn or web interface · how to translate PO/tutorials/etc. · submit finished work to patch tracker

I think this work should be done by people without a technical background, plain users may afford to have a translation done.

More ideas on how to improve the translation statistics?

Regards!

2006/5/16, Luca Bruno <gnug.torte@...20...>:

Matiphas <matiphas@...9...> scrisse:

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it translated: 1547 ( 73 %), fuzzy: 323 ( 15 %), untranslated: 241 ( 11 %), total : 2111

My translation was really outdated. This weekend I had some spare time so I updated it. Just committed to SVN. Now statistics are:

| it | translated: 2015 ( 95 %), fuzzy: 43 ( 2 %), untranslated: 53 ( 2 | %), total: 2111

It should reach 100% next weekend :)

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Total number of PO files: 38 Significantly translated PO file count: 7 Average number of strings translated: 1973 ( 93 %) Significantly translated locales: ca cs de es fr lt sl

Counting also Italian, significantly translated PO file count just gets to 8....

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Hey, sorry, don't misunderstood me: GNOME is just an example, I'm not suggesting there should be more interaction with us. By the way, I participate on translating GNOME to Catalan too. ;).

Hope this clarifies my point of view.

GNOME's translation project is got a list of translation teams that are working on the project; we could use this list to call for help.

2006/5/16, Lucas Vieites <lucas@...2...>:

El mar, 16-05-2006 a las 17:27 +0200, Xavier Conde Rueda escribió:

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Don't you think we should ask for translators? I think it would be useful to call for help through the news front page. For instance, GNOME project offcially supports those languages with more than 80 %, and I think there are only 8 languages with more than 80 % on Inkscape. This should be improved!

The only trouble is that the GNOME project only translates software that's part of it. One of the requisites is that the software be on their servers in order to be abel to update the stats and all that. Anyway I am a member of the spanish GNOME team and I'm in charge of the translation of Inkscape to spanish, so maybe we could attract translators that are already doing stuff for GNOME and help us out too.

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Also, it would be useful to have this kind of reports online, as GNOME, so people can access this information quickly:

http://l10n-status.gnome.org/gnome-2.14/index.html

We should also improve the translationinformation wiki page, with useful info for people who know nothing about translating. It should cover a full process flow:

· contact to a local translation group, to get support and help on your language · subscribe to this list, · get files from svn or web interface · how to translate PO/tutorials/etc. · submit finished work to patch tracker

I think this work should be done by people without a technical background, plain users may afford to have a translation done.

More ideas on how to improve the translation statistics?

Regards!

2006/5/16, Luca Bruno <gnug.torte@...20...>:

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Matiphas <matiphas@...9...> scrisse:

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it translated: 1547 ( 73 %), fuzzy: 323 ( 15 %), untranslated: 241 ( 11 %), total : 2111

My translation was really outdated. This weekend I had some spare time so I updated it. Just committed to SVN. Now statistics are:

| it | translated: 2015 ( 95 %), fuzzy: 43 ( 2 %), untranslated: 53 ( 2 | %), total: 2111

It should reach 100% next weekend :)

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Total number of PO files: 38 Significantly translated PO file count: 7 Average number of strings translated: 1973 ( 93 %) Significantly translated locales: ca cs de es fr lt sl

Counting also Italian, significantly translated PO file count just gets to 8....

Cheers, Luca

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