Ok, had to revert back to English version, links were redirecting to staging website, this is not acceptable for the public website, better not keep that until we can figure out how to correctly copy the content from staging

On 19-06-2015 23:21, Duarte Ramos wrote:

Hello everyone Many thanks for the translation Victor Westmann, very nice start. You help is very appreciated. Maren, as requested I copied the text from staging website, but a few issues arrise:

1. Does the staging website use the same user table as the main website? I could not log in with my regular username, and google sign in that I normally use doesn't work there, seems to be using an outdated authentication method according to this https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6206245?p=openid&rd=1
2. Since I could not log in all I could do is copy the text in 'live mode' so most links and CMS structure were probably lost. This should temporarily work for most users for now, but should eventually be corrected.
3. The 'Testing' page looks somewhat weird, with long text formatting causing horizontal scrolling (not present in the English version) and the "? Follow up" text looks like sme leftover placeholder from the editor (?)

Thanks again, Duarte

On 19-06-2015 12:10, maren@...325... wrote:

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Hi everyone,

you guys are great :) - Thanks!

Victor, I'm afraid you translated the page on staging.inkscape.org... :( We'll have to transfer your translations to the live website. Duarte, do you think you could help with this?

I couldn't find your account at inkscape.org, Victor, to give you translators' permissions - what is your username?

And you're right, translating is a lot of work, that's why we are so happy to have you to support Duarte ;) - even if the languages aren't exactly the same, it's a great thing if some of the work can be shared. (Anybody here wants to translate the German developer pages, maybe? ;) )

As the web site editor isn't always intuitive in its usage, I'd like to give some hints for inserting links (I think this isn't yet very well described in the document on our Wiki - I'll update that soon with some pictures as well):

For links, whereever possible, please everyone use the Link plugins. In the editor, there is a dropdown on the top left.

The thing is that internal links (from one page at inkscape.org to another one) will be adapted automatically, if, for example, a page is moved or renamed. So if you link to the 'About' page, for example, and someone moves that page to another menu section, your link will not need to be updated. It's a little more work now, but it will save us work later. They also do not need to be adapted for the language, this is done automatically.

So to insert an internal link, do the following:

• Write the word(s) you want to use as text for the link.
• Mark them.
• Use the dropdown for plugins, select 'Link'
• Fill in all info (use the dropdown for internal links)
• Save

To edit a 'plugin link', just doubleclick on it.

What will not work with plugin links:

• Copying a plugin link to use it more than once (it lives in the

database, and only can exist once, and also only in the text block where it was created)

• Editing the text of a plugin link in the editor window directly.

As I said, not intuitive...

To get contents from the English pages to your own language's page, use the dropdown at the top ('language') and select 'Copy all plugins from English'. This will make duplicates of all plugins (a different entry in the database), they can be edited by double-clicking on them.

Long read, sorry!

Thanks for all your hard work, Kind regards, Maren

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Hi Duarte,

answers inline, I copied your mails together ;):

Maren, as requested I copied the text from staging website, but a few issues arrise:

- Thank you! :)

1. Does the staging website use the same user table as the main

website? I could not log in with my regular username, and google sign in that I normally use doesn't work there, seems to be using an outdated authentication method according to this https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6206245?p=openid&rd=1

- Staging uses another database than the real website, so you would need two accounts. Seems that's another point I should better add to the Wiki page - I've started editing it yesterday :) Thanks for the hint!

Staging has not been fixed for changes in google's oauth module. What should work is to register for a regular account there, giving your mail address. The staging website will be updated (and wiped clean, probably) when the next version of the website (with many new features, and fixes) will be in testing stage. It's better to use that page for training and testing purposes only. Contents created there can easily be lost.

2. Since I could not log in all I could do is copy the text in 'live

mode' so most links and CMS structure were probably lost. This should temporarily work for most users for now, but should eventually be corrected.

From next mail: Ok, had to revert back to English version, links were redirecting to staging website, this is not acceptable for the public website, better not keep that until we can figure out how to correctly copy the content from staging

- They can't be copied. We will have to edit the links, and turn them into Link plugins. I didn't feel qualified to edit them in Portuguese :)

To copy parts from one page to another page, when something needs an update, the best way I found is to copy the changed text from the English page (in normal mode, directly from the browser, not from the editor), and then to translate, edit all links and the formatting, if necessary.

3. The 'Testing' page looks somewhat weird, with long text formatting

causing horizontal scrolling (not present in the English version) and the "? Follow up" text looks like sme leftover placeholder from the editor (?)

- Right, that's unfortunate, I know :( That page is one of those pages which would urgently need an update by one of the devs. They don't seem to have the time for that, though (I asked a few times) :( It looks as if someone started, but never got around to finish it...

I suggest that for the time being, we concentrate primarily on pages that have just recently been updated, and if we translate the other pages, we need to keep in mind that the info on them is not necessarily 100% current.

This applies to the Testing page, the Getting started page, and maybe to the Debugging page (I can't judge).

The other pages are all fairly current. Brynn, Martin and I have worked intensively on all of them within the last year, and we are still discussing a lot about what could be added to make the website most useful to our users.

The horizontal scrolling was caused by   (non-breakable spaces) being used instead of normal spaces in between the words.

I've removed them by copying the source into a normal text editor, search&replacing all   with simple spaces and then copying back the source. Probably an office suite that was used for editing was inserting those nasty   ;)

I hope I was able to help a bit. Whenever you see something that should better be documented, please tell me about it. We should make the process as easy as possible - I want the website translations to be fun and rewarding for everyone!

Thank you, Duarte, for your help - it is very much appreciated!

Kind regards, Maren

Thanks again, Duarte

On 19-06-2015 12:10, maren@...325... wrote:

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Hi everyone,

you guys are great :) - Thanks!

Victor, I'm afraid you translated the page on staging.inkscape.org... :( We'll have to transfer your translations to the live website. Duarte, do you think you could help with this?

I couldn't find your account at inkscape.org, Victor, to give you translators' permissions - what is your username?

And you're right, translating is a lot of work, that's why we are so happy to have you to support Duarte ;) - even if the languages aren't exactly the same, it's a great thing if some of the work can be shared. (Anybody here wants to translate the German developer pages, maybe? ;) )

As the web site editor isn't always intuitive in its usage, I'd like to give some hints for inserting links (I think this isn't yet very well described in the document on our Wiki - I'll update that soon with some pictures as well):

For links, whereever possible, please everyone use the Link plugins. In the editor, there is a dropdown on the top left.

The thing is that internal links (from one page at inkscape.org to another one) will be adapted automatically, if, for example, a page is moved or renamed. So if you link to the 'About' page, for example, and someone moves that page to another menu section, your link will not need to be updated. It's a little more work now, but it will save us work later. They also do not need to be adapted for the language, this is done automatically.

So to insert an internal link, do the following: - Write the word(s) you want to use as text for the link. - Mark them. - Use the dropdown for plugins, select 'Link' - Fill in all info (use the dropdown for internal links) - Save

To edit a 'plugin link', just doubleclick on it.

What will not work with plugin links: - Copying a plugin link to use it more than once (it lives in the database, and only can exist once, and also only in the text block where it was created)

• Editing the text of a plugin link in the editor window directly.

As I said, not intuitive...

To get contents from the English pages to your own language's page, use the dropdown at the top ('language') and select 'Copy all plugins from English'. This will make duplicates of all plugins (a different entry in the database), they can be edited by double-clicking on them.

Long read, sorry!

Thanks for all your hard work, Kind regards, Maren

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