Hey everybody!
After this email Cedric wrote me an email off list and it caused me to look in to the topic again. It didn't however cause me to change my position on this :-)
So what I figure now, is that the current behaviour is not only disliked by some users due to personal preferences but is also inconsistent with Inkscape itself. I for one cannot find any good reason, why dragging the text tool should not create the same as making a text and a box and flowing the text into the box -- just a quicker way of doing so. Manually flowing the text into a box on the other hand behaves almost like the other posters and me want it to work. (It should only be easier to select the text than the box. When a box is completely full, this kind of hard...)
Besides this, please have a look at bug RFE 1597125 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1597125&gro... in this context.
Take care!
David
On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 21:21 +0200, David Christian Berg wrote:
Well, I didn't know, where to cling in with this mail, so I just figured, further up in the thread might be a good place, esp, since I agree with Erik.
The behaviour as described for Corel is the normal behaviour for any application I know. If you have a flowed text, I don't want it's size to be modified, when modifying the container it is in. It may be a approach coming from the far layouting edge of graphics, but flowed texts _are_ in that edge as well. It's the same with images, btw: If I have a image clipped and I change the clipping box, I don't want to scale the image, unless I explicitly say I want to. But back to text: the behaviour of Inkscape is quite strange in my opinion. since however, the selection tool only selects the text and not the box it is in, I didn't really have problems using it. However, it costs _a lot_ of time, because I select the text with the selection tool, need to notice that not the box is selected, need to remember "Ah, right, Inkscape uses the text tool" and then go ahead with that one, only to face the problem, that I cannot adjust the size in millimetres anywhere. So let's make some guidelines to adjust the size...
As you can see: quite uncomfortable :)
Cheers!
David
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 22:02 +1000, kaver wrote:
OK. When I set up text in CorelDraw I usually prepare a text frame, then insert the text. Then if I need to change the text frame dimensions I change them using the normal top/side/diagonal arrows. The critical factor for me is that the text itself stays the same size. Ie the point size and height/width do not change.
If I do the same in Inkscape then the height and width of the letters changes with the frame and the text does not remain the same. I find this incredibly frustrating to the point that it is a real limitation on using Inkscape where text is involved. Xara behaves like this as well.
Is there a setting in Inkscape that enables me to have the text untouched during these frame changes? I guess I am looking for something like the scale change button that allows you to scale the line dimensions or not as the scale changes. It may be staring me in the face.
Erik
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