Dear people,
first off all I have to say that I'M NOT A WINDOWS USER. After, my boss, that is a windows user, would like to use inkscape. We have tried to install it and basically we didn't have any problem. The question is that we would like to know which dependencies needs inkscape to run in windows, because we cannot use any import feature. So, we cannot open any ps, eps, etc file.
We have tried to install python and perl, (without any success, or the import feature doesn't work four us), but I have to say that I don't know very much the windows platform (I'm very happy with the apt-get ;-)
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
Best regards,
Leo
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
first off all I have to say that I'M NOT A WINDOWS USER. After, my boss, that is a windows user, would like to use inkscape. We have tried to install it and basically we didn't have any problem. The question is that we would like to know which dependencies needs inkscape to run in windows, because we cannot use any import feature. So, we cannot open any ps, eps, etc file.
We have tried to install python and perl, (without any success, or the import feature doesn't work four us), but I have to say that I don't know very much the windows platform (I'm very happy with the apt-get ;-)
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
I don't think Inkscape can import EPS... I just installed the Windows version today myself (use it on Linux also) but eps is not even an import option (export works fine, though).
-- Brett ----------- Programmer by day, Guitarist by Night http://www.chapelperilous.net http://www.alhazred.com http://www.revelmoon.com
A Dijous 28 Juliol 2005 22:52, Brett McCoy va escriure:
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
first off all I have to say that I'M NOT A WINDOWS USER. After, my boss, that is a windows user, would like to use inkscape. We have tried to install it and basically we didn't have any problem. The question is that we would like to know which dependencies needs inkscape to run in windows, because we cannot use any import feature. So, we cannot open any ps, eps, etc file.
We have tried to install python and perl, (without any success, or the import feature doesn't work four us), but I have to say that I don't know very much the windows platform (I'm very happy with the apt-get ;-)
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
I don't think Inkscape can import EPS... I just installed the Windows version today myself (use it on Linux also) but eps is not even an import option (export works fine, though).
Ummm, Brett I'm not agree with you...
from the inkscape web page:
Open Source Scalable Vector Graphics Editor ... .... editing. It also imports several formats like EPS, Postscript, JPEG, PNG, BMP, and TIFF and exports PNG as well as multiple vector-based formats.
Leo
Quoting Leopold Palomo Avellaneda <lepalom@...909...>:
Ummm, Brett I'm not agree with you...
from the inkscape web page:
Open Source Scalable Vector Graphics Editor ... .... editing. It also imports several formats like EPS, Postscript, JPEG, PNG, BMP, and TIFF and exports PNG as well as multiple vector-based formats.
Inkscape can import EPS/Postscript, but only if several other programs are installed (it calls them automatically when loading the file). I have a rough idea how it works on Unix (it's not something I use myself), but I don't know how it works on Windows.
Built-in EPS/Postscript import without requiring external programs is an oft-requested feature, but we're still looking for a volunteer to implement it.
-mental
mental@...32... wrote:
Open Source Scalable Vector Graphics Editor ... .... editing. It also imports several formats like EPS, Postscript, JPEG, PNG, BMP, and TIFF and exports PNG as well as multiple vector-based formats.
Inkscape can import EPS/Postscript, but only if several other programs are installed (it calls them automatically when loading the file). I have a rough idea how it works on Unix (it's not something I use myself), but I don't know how it works on Windows.
Built-in EPS/Postscript import without requiring external programs is an oft-requested feature, but we're still looking for a volunteer to implement it.
What does it need for importing? I have a whole host of postscript and graphics tools on my Linux box but there is no option to import EPS with Inkscape, just export (which works just fine). EPS files don't even appear in the file list window if it is set to "All Images".
-- Brett
A Dijous 28 Juliol 2005 23:40, mental@...32... va escriure: [....]
Built-in EPS/Postscript import without requiring external programs is an oft-requested feature, but we're still looking for a volunteer to implement it.
If there's a program that do the job ok, I don't think necessary to reinvent the wheel. Unix style, small programs that do one o few things very well. If you need somethig big, connect several programs with a right input and output.
Regard,
Leo
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
Ummm, Brett I'm not agree with you...
from the inkscape web page:
Open Source Scalable Vector Graphics Editor ... .... editing. It also imports several formats like EPS, Postscript, JPEG, PNG, BMP, and TIFF and exports PNG as well as multiple vector-based formats.
I searched around on the Inkscape site -- apparently we need pstoedit, ghostscript (and probably gs-esp, the Ghostscript EPS interpreter) and sketch for EPS import to work. I haven't successfuly gotten it to work yet, even though I have all of these installed.
Maybe it doesn't work anymore or something else is required (surprised this isn't in the README doc that comes with the source code)
-- Brett
On 7/29/05, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda <lepalom@...909...> wrote:
A Dijous 28 Juliol 2005 23:40, mental@...32... va escriure: [....]
Built-in EPS/Postscript import without requiring external programs is an oft-requested feature, but we're still looking for a volunteer to implement it.
If there's a program that do the job ok, I don't think necessary to reinvent the wheel. Unix style, small programs that do one o few things very well. If you need somethig big, connect several programs with a right input and output.
Unix style doesn't cover Windows well, when it comes to installing e.g. Skencil (ex-Sketch) ;)
Alexandre
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
--Ted
Ted Gould wrote:
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
Hmmm... I've got all of these installed now but still can't get the EPS import to work... not a big deal, it's the export that is more crucial anyway...
Brett McCoy schrieb:
Ted Gould wrote:
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
Hmmm... I've got all of these installed now but still can't get the EPS import to work... not a big deal, it's the export that is more crucial anyway...
This problem is about the inkscape\share\extensions\eps_input.inx file.
it looks for a "gs" in your path: <dependency type="executable">gs</dependency>
In order to have this done you need to have ghostscript in your PATH. add "C:\program files\gs\gs8.51\bin" to PATH and rename gs into gswin32c.exe in the inx file
HTH,
Adib. ---
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 23:17 -0400, Brett McCoy wrote:
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
Hmmm... I've got all of these installed now but still can't get the EPS import to work... not a big deal, it's the export that is more crucial anyway...
Well, if you have time I'd love to know why it isn't working so that we can fix it. Are they not getting detected properly?
--Ted
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 08:17 +0200, Adib Taraben wrote:
This problem is about the inkscape\share\extensions\eps_input.inx file.
it looks for a "gs" in your path: <dependency type="executable">gs</dependency>
In order to have this done you need to have ghostscript in your PATH. add "C:\program files\gs\gs8.51\bin" to PATH and rename gs into gswin32c.exe in the inx file
Oh, cool. So how do we want to handle this in the future? Have two .inx files, one for windows and one for everyone else? Do the windows packagers have any ideas?
--Ted
A Divendres 29 Juliol 2005 08:28, Ted Gould va escriure:
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 08:17 +0200, Adib Taraben wrote:
This problem is about the inkscape\share\extensions\eps_input.inx file.
it looks for a "gs" in your path: <dependency type="executable">gs</dependency>
In order to have this done you need to have ghostscript in your PATH. add "C:\program files\gs\gs8.51\bin" to PATH and rename gs into gswin32c.exe in the inx file
Oh, cool. So how do we want to handle this in the future? Have two .inx files, one for windows and one for everyone else? Do the windows packagers have any ideas?
--Ted
Hi people,
thank's a lot for all the answers!!!!
Ted:
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
I like the propose to convince my boss to use Debian ;-)!!!
However, little detail, the debian package of inkscape doesn't _need_ this packages, they are _only_ recommended
Recommended packages: libwmf-bin pstoedit sketch
Maybe it would be better clarified the dependencies of the extensions, that are a very important part of inkscape.
Best regards,
Leo
Pd I'm using Free software since some years ago, and I'm still impressed when I send a mail to a list and I receive all this messages!!!!! Very Thanks!!
-- Linux User 152692 Catalonia
Ted Gould wrote:
Hmmm... I've got all of these installed now but still can't get the EPS import to work... not a big deal, it's the export that is more crucial anyway...
Well, if you have time I'd love to know why it isn't working so that we can fix it. Are they not getting detected properly?
Not sure, I did notice the extensions-error.log was listing stuff it couldn't find (like gs and pstoedit) but were most definitely in my $PATH. *shrug*
-- Brett ----------- Programmer by day, Guitarist by Night http://www.chapelperilous.net http://www.alhazred.com http://www.revelmoon.com
Sadly, the only real way to find out what is needed to make an extension work is chasing it through the inx files. Browse to the inkscape/share/extensions directory. You will find eps_input.inx which depends on ps input. In ps_input.inx you will see that it depends on sk input. And finally in sk_input.inx you will see that it depends on the on the *nix shell script sk2svg.sh. the sk2svg script calls a program named skconvert. I haven't taken the time to look this up but I would assume this is part of sketch/skencil. To make things more portable we could easily rewrite the shell scripts in a language like python or perl, though it would be IMHO much better to do that with embedded scripting since it will always be accesible no mater what the user has installed. Sketch, however is unlikely to ever run on Win32.
I think this is a great example of the power and limitations of the current extensions mechanism. It is not a script binding. A script binding will also be very useful. But in the tradition of *nix tools it allows you to combine smaller programs to get the job done. And it lets you turn almost any old program you have sitting around into an Inkscape extension.
In the end if you want eps input you need to find a path between eps and svg. If you can find a couple command line programs to get the job done, attaching them to inkscape is simple even if badly documented.
As you figure out what various extensions require and confirm that they work, please add the details to the wiki. http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GettingExtensionsWorking
Aaron Spike
Ted Gould wrote:
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 08:17 +0200, Adib Taraben wrote:
This problem is about the inkscape\share\extensions\eps_input.inx file.
it looks for a "gs" in your path: <dependency type="executable">gs</dependency>
In order to have this done you need to have ghostscript in your PATH. add "C:\program files\gs\gs8.51\bin" to PATH and rename gs into gswin32c.exe in the inx file
Oh, cool. So how do we want to handle this in the future? Have two .inx files, one for windows and one for everyone else? Do the windows packagers have any ideas?
I'd really like to avoid 2 inx files, but I have no ideas.
Aaron Spike
On 7/29/05, aaron@...476... <aaron@...476...> wrote:
installed. Sketch, however is unlikely to ever run on Win32.
http://www.nongnu.org/skencil/devel.html
Alexandre
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On 7/29/05, aaron@...476... <aaron@...476...> wrote:
installed. Sketch, however is unlikely to ever run on Win32.
Thanks :)
Ted Gould schrieb:
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 08:17 +0200, Adib Taraben wrote:
This problem is about the inkscape\share\extensions\eps_input.inx file.
it looks for a "gs" in your path: <dependency type="executable">gs</dependency>
In order to have this done you need to have ghostscript in your PATH. add "C:\program files\gs\gs8.51\bin" to PATH and rename gs into gswin32c.exe in the inx file
Oh, cool. So how do we want to handle this in the future? Have two .inx files, one for windows and one for everyone else? Do the windows packagers have any ideas?
--Ted
Does somebody knows how that works for Mac ? How are extension dependencies handled in other (multiplatform)applications (ai/gimp/firefox)?
Maybe we add a special windows option "path to application" that contains the full path+application name for that like "C:\Program Files\gs\gs8.51\gswin32c.exe". Also thinkable is a menu like in firefox to edit settings for the different extensions.
Any input is welcome,
Adib. ---
Brett McCoy wrote:
Not sure, I did notice the extensions-error.log was listing stuff it couldn't find (like gs and pstoedit) but were most definitely in my $PATH. *shrug*
Hmm, I was hoping that we had this fixed for 0.42. :( Can you try tweaking the .inx file to see if anything works? Things like adding '.exe' on the end, or perhaps reordering your path? I'm not sure what is failing here. Remember to do any changes in the dependency section, that is the only thing that matters on whether it gets loaded or not.
Thanks, Ted
Adib Taraben wrote:
Does somebody knows how that works for Mac ? How are extension dependencies handled in other (multiplatform)applications (ai/gimp/firefox)?
Maybe we add a special windows option "path to application" that contains the full path+application name for that like "C:\Program Files\gs\gs8.51\gswin32c.exe". Also thinkable is a menu like in firefox to edit settings for the different extensions.
As far as I'm aware, no one else uses external scripts like we do. (you can thank Bryce for the cool idea) You can already adjust the paths of interpreters, perhaps we're going to have to do something for executables also.
--Ted
Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
However, little detail, the debian package of inkscape doesn't _need_ this packages, they are _only_ recommended
Recommended packages: libwmf-bin pstoedit sketch
Maybe it would be better clarified the dependencies of the extensions, that are a very important part of inkscape.
The reason that we did that is to make it easier for people to install Inkscpae. Distributions like Ubuntu aren't really interested in having Skencil as part of their supported packages, but are willing to put Inkscape in because it's not a 'dependency'. Our goal in the future is to have separate packages for Linux (this looks like it's impossible for Windows/Mac) so that you can install 'inkscape' and 'inkscape-extension-pstoedit' the later of which would have pstoedit as a required dependency.
To date, we don't really have enough extensions to make this distinction worth while.
--Ted
Not sure, I did notice the extensions-error.log was listing stuff it couldn't find (like gs and pstoedit) but were most definitely in my $PATH. *shrug*
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11345369
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 07:28:14AM -0500, aaron@...476... wrote:
Sadly, the only real way to find out what is needed to make an extension work is chasing it through the inx files. Browse to the
As you figure out what various extensions require and confirm that they work, please add the details to the wiki. http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GettingExtensionsWorking
Brett, Leopold, Aaron, Ted, Alexandre, and other participants in this thread, I think it'd be worthwhile if we could get this page fleshed out more. Could you guys take a look at that page and see how it could be improved?
Thanks, Bryce
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 02:08 -0400, R. Alan Monroe wrote:
Not sure, I did notice the extensions-error.log was listing stuff it couldn't find (like gs and pstoedit) but were most definitely in my $PATH. *shrug*
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11345369
I _think_ this is fixed in 0.42, I thought that was the problem. Inkscape was hacking off the last entry in the path.
--Ted
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 06:59:13PM -0400, Brett McCoy wrote:
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
Ummm, Brett I'm not agree with you...
from the inkscape web page:
Open Source Scalable Vector Graphics Editor ... .... editing. It also imports several formats like EPS, Postscript, JPEG, PNG, BMP, and TIFF and exports PNG as well as multiple vector-based formats.
I searched around on the Inkscape site -- apparently we need pstoedit, ghostscript (and probably gs-esp, the Ghostscript EPS interpreter) and sketch for EPS import to work. I haven't successfuly gotten it to work yet, even though I have all of these installed.
Maybe it doesn't work anymore or something else is required (surprised this isn't in the README doc that comes with the source code)
Brett, could you suggest some text we should put into the README or other places, so that people won't get confused about this issue?
As mental said, we get a lot of requests regarding EPS, but from the developer side I don't think it gets attention. It's quite possible the documentation is misleading, and anything you can do to help in this area will pay off for other users.
Bryce
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 11:28:03PM -0700, Ted Gould wrote:
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 08:17 +0200, Adib Taraben wrote:
This problem is about the inkscape\share\extensions\eps_input.inx file.
it looks for a "gs" in your path: <dependency type="executable">gs</dependency>
In order to have this done you need to have ghostscript in your PATH. add "C:\program files\gs\gs8.51\bin" to PATH and rename gs into gswin32c.exe in the inx file
Oh, cool. So how do we want to handle this in the future? Have two .inx files, one for windows and one for everyone else? Do the windows packagers have any ideas?
Perhaps this could be modified to allow alternative program names. It would try gs first, then if that doesn't exist, try gswin32c.exe.
This thread probably ought to be moved to -devel...
Bryce
Ted Gould wrote:
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
Am new to using Inkscape and have had similar problems and tried to fix them following the info in this thread. Have progressively installed Ghostscript and pstoedit and updated the PATH but still I get the same extensions_error that states that gs and pstoedit are not found.
All I want at this stage is to export (Save As) to an .ai format which as far as I can tell only requires gs. Wha tis really needed is a thorough process to get these working - for a "novice" user. Any ideas out there.
The problem with Inkscape/Ghostscript in windows is the TEMP directory. I had to force it to c:\TEMP.
It a problem with the long file name.
AndyR wrote:
Ted Gould wrote:
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
Am new to using Inkscape and have had similar problems and tried to fix them following the info in this thread. Have progressively installed Ghostscript and pstoedit and updated the PATH but still I get the same extensions_error that states that gs and pstoedit are not found.
All I want at this stage is to export (Save As) to an .ai format which as far as I can tell only requires gs. Wha tis really needed is a thorough process to get these working - for a "novice" user. Any ideas out there.
The TEMP directory for what? and how did you force it to c:\temp?
Marc Olivier Chouinard wrote:
The problem with Inkscape/Ghostscript in windows is the TEMP directory. I had to force it to c:\TEMP.
It a problem with the long file name.
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
Am new to using Inkscape and have had similar problems and tried to fix them following the info in this thread. Have progressively installed Ghostscript and pstoedit and updated the PATH but still I get the same extensions_error that states that gs and pstoedit are not found.
All I want at this stage is to export (Save As) to an .ai format which as far as I can tell only requires gs. Wha tis really needed is a thorough process to get these working - for a "novice" user. Any ideas out there.
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Make a folder named c:\TEMP then go to Start->Settings->Control Panel->System->Advanced->Environment Variables-> and change TEMP and TMP variable to c:\temp
That did the trick for me
I guess you could just force the path in the ghostscript batchfile, but this way, everything is fixed and always easier to cleanup in c:\temp
Marc O. Chouinard
AndyR wrote:
The TEMP directory for what? and how did you force it to c:\temp?
Marc Olivier Chouinard wrote:
The problem with Inkscape/Ghostscript in windows is the TEMP directory. I had to force it to c:\TEMP.
It a problem with the long file name.
So, please, could you tell me which software is necessary/recommend to run a full inkscape in the Win platform? Somethink like to build it: x, y, z: To run it, xa, yb, etc.
In the directory with the Inkscape preferences.xml file, there is a file that is called extension-errors.log. (There is no way you could have known this, don't feel bad) In there it lists the issues with the extensions that are being loaded, and what they need.
EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be able to get the EPS import working. I'm not sure if anyone has all of these working on Windows though... convince your boss to use Debian ;)
Am new to using Inkscape and have had similar problems and tried to fix them following the info in this thread. Have progressively installed Ghostscript and pstoedit and updated the PATH but still I get the same extensions_error that states that gs and pstoedit are not found.
All I want at this stage is to export (Save As) to an .ai format which as far as I can tell only requires gs. Wha tis really needed is a thorough process to get these working - for a "novice" user. Any ideas out there.
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On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:39:08AM -0400, Marc Olivier Chouinard wrote:
then go to Start->Settings->Control Panel->System->Advanced->Environment Variables-> and change TEMP and TMP variable to c:\temp
I generally prefer to do a right click on the icon formerly known as "My Computer" (seems to appear as "$user on $host" on my computer now) and hit properties. This gets you to the system properties tab a bit quicker.
Sam
Sam Mason wrote:
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:39:08AM -0400, Marc Olivier Chouinard wrote:
then go to Start->Settings->Control Panel->System->Advanced->Environment Variables-> and change TEMP and TMP variable to c:\temp
I generally prefer to do a right click on the icon formerly known as "My Computer" (seems to appear as "$user on $host" on my computer now) and hit properties. This gets you to the system properties tab a bit quicker.
The fastest way is actually a key combination: WIN-BREAK (Win=the key between alt and ctrl, break=the one left to the num-lock light, at least on my german keyboard ;)
eph
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