issues with Arrange > Polar Coordinates
Hi Friends, I was just answering a forum question about creating a clockface, and I used the Polar Coordinates dialog. I found that if I draw a circle, then type out the numbers, then choose Object's Rotational Center and First Circle (or 2nd), then select all, then click Arrange, all the numbers are placed at 3 o'clock. I found that if I move the circle before clicking arrange, it makes the feature function properly. Should I make a bug report? Or is this already a known issue? I searched LP without finding any similar report. But often I might not know the proper terminology (and recently I found the wiki was being used for bug reports (for gradient mesh)) so I just ask before I make a bug report, just in case. I'm on Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit, Inkscape 0.92, 64-bit. Another issue, which is a little bit nit-picky, but still important, imo. For some time, I couldn't figure out what object was being referred to in "Object's bounding box" and "Object's rotational center". Is it the object I am drawing (such as a clock face)? It can't mean the circle, because further below in the dialog, it says "circle" (and if it meant circle, it would have said 'Circle's rotational center'). But after a lot of clicking around and trial and error, it seems it refers to the numbers on the clock face example. If that's the case, it should be "Objects' bounding box" and "Objects' rotational center". If they had been properly written, I would have understood at once that the objects in question are the numbers (or whatever objects are being arranged around the circle). Should I make a bug report about that?
Thanks for your help :-) brynn
Hi Brynn,
Am 20.01.2017 um 12:11 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends,
I was just answering a forum question about creating a clockface, and Iused the Polar Coordinates dialog. I found that if I draw a circle, then type out the numbers, then choose Object's Rotational Center and First Circle (or 2nd), then select all, then click Arrange, all the numbers are placed at 3 o'clock.
- This is how it works. Mathematically, the circle's start is at three o'clock. It's not a bug (do you still have that email where I explained it to you, translating the article linked below?). German speakers, see here: http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2016/Jun/inkscape-entdecker-anordnen1.html
I found that if I move the circle before clicking arrange, it makes thefeature function properly. Should I make a bug report? Or is this already a known issue? I searched LP without finding any similar report. But often I might not know the proper terminology (and recently I found the wiki was being used for bug reports (for gradient mesh)) so I just ask before I make a bug report, just in case. I'm on Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit, Inkscape 0.92, 64-bit. Another issue, which is a little bit nit-picky, but still important, imo. For some time, I couldn't figure out what object was being referred to in "Object's bounding box" and "Object's rotational center". Is it the object I am drawing (such as a clock face)? It can't mean the circle, because further below in the dialog, it says "circle" (and if it meant circle, it would have said 'Circle's rotational center').
- The objects that you're aligning along the circle.
But after a lot of clicking around and trial and error, it seems itrefers to the numbers on the clock face example. If that's the case, it should be "Objects' bounding box" and "Objects' rotational center". If they had been properly written, I would have understood at once that the objects in question are the numbers (or whatever objects are being arranged around the circle). Should I make a bug report about that?
- That makes sense, yes. That dialog isn't documented very well...
Regards, Maren
Thanks for your help :-) brynn
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On Fri, 2017-01-20 at 17:37 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
- That makes sense, yes. That dialog isn't documented very well...
This is perhaps my fault. I grabbed the polar coords functionality and put it into trunk so it wouldn't bit-rot further as the merge request was getting old.
This means it's not well documented and could do with some help.
Apologetic Regards, Martin Owens
all the numbers are placed at 3
o'clock.
- This is how it works. Mathematically, the circle's start is at three
o'clock. It's not a bug (do you still have that email where I explained it to you, translating the article linked below?). German speakers, see here: http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2016/Jun/inkscape-entdecker-anordnen1.html
No, I mean ALL the numbers are placed all on top of each other, at the 3 o'clock place. I know that for making a clock, the circle needs to be rotated, so the numbers will be in the proper places. So taking the rotation into consideration, I think they are all placed where 1 o'clock is supposed to be. But still, they aren't supposed to be all on top of each other, are they?
As I said, if I drag the circle by any amount, before clicking Arrange, then the numbers are placed around the circle, as expected.
Should I make bug reports for this, and the punctuation issue?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 9:37 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] issues with Arrange > Polar Coordinates
Hi Brynn,
Am 20.01.2017 um 12:11 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends,
I was just answering a forum question about creating a clockface, andI used the Polar Coordinates dialog. I found that if I draw a circle, then type out the numbers, then choose Object's Rotational Center and First Circle (or 2nd), then select all, then click Arrange, all the numbers are placed at 3 o'clock.
- This is how it works. Mathematically, the circle's start is at three o'clock. It's not a bug (do you still have that email where I explained it to you, translating the article linked below?). German speakers, see here: http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2016/Jun/inkscape-entdecker-anordnen1.html
I found that if I move the circle before clicking arrange, it makesthe feature function properly. Should I make a bug report? Or is this already a known issue? I searched LP without finding any similar report. But often I might not know the proper terminology (and recently I found the wiki was being used for bug reports (for gradient mesh)) so I just ask before I make a bug report, just in case. I'm on Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit, Inkscape 0.92, 64-bit. Another issue, which is a little bit nit-picky, but still important, imo. For some time, I couldn't figure out what object was being referred to in "Object's bounding box" and "Object's rotational center". Is it the object I am drawing (such as a clock face)? It can't mean the circle, because further below in the dialog, it says "circle" (and if it meant circle, it would have said 'Circle's rotational center').
- The objects that you're aligning along the circle.
But after a lot of clicking around and trial and error, it seems itrefers to the numbers on the clock face example. If that's the case, it should be "Objects' bounding box" and "Objects' rotational center". If they had been properly written, I would have understood at once that the objects in question are the numbers (or whatever objects are being arranged around the circle). Should I make a bug report about that?
- That makes sense, yes. That dialog isn't documented very well...
Regards, Maren
Thanks for your help :-) brynn
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Am 20.01.2017 um 19:13 schrieb brynn:
all the numbers are placed at 3
o'clock.
- This is how it works. Mathematically, the circle's start is at three
o'clock. It's not a bug (do you still have that email where I explained it to you, translating the article linked below?). German speakers, see here: http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2016/Jun/inkscape-entdecker-anordnen1.html
No, I mean ALL the numbers are placed all on top of each other, at the 3 o'clock place. I know that for making a clock, the circle needs to be rotated, so the numbers will be in the proper places. So taking the rotation into consideration, I think they are all placed where 1 o'clock is supposed to be. But still, they aren't supposed to be all on top of each other, are they?
- Oh, I didn't get that, sorry, Brynn :-/ If your objects aren't grouped, and you can reproduce the issue reliably, then yes, that sounds to me as if it's definitely worth a bug report!
Maren
As I said, if I drag the circle by any amount, before clicking Arrange, then the numbers are placed around the circle, as expected.
Should I make bug reports for this, and the punctuation issue?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 9:37 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] issues with Arrange > Polar Coordinates
Hi Brynn,
Am 20.01.2017 um 12:11 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends,
I was just answering a forum question about creating a clockface, andI used the Polar Coordinates dialog. I found that if I draw a circle, then type out the numbers, then choose Object's Rotational Center and First Circle (or 2nd), then select all, then click Arrange, all the numbers are placed at 3 o'clock.
- This is how it works. Mathematically, the circle's start is at three
o'clock. It's not a bug (do you still have that email where I explained it to you, translating the article linked below?). German speakers, see here: http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2016/Jun/inkscape-entdecker-anordnen1.html
I found that if I move the circle before clicking arrange, it makesthe feature function properly. Should I make a bug report? Or is this already a known issue? I searched LP without finding any similar report. But often I might not know the proper terminology (and recently I found the wiki was being used for bug reports (for gradient mesh)) so I just ask before I make a bug report, just in case. I'm on Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit, Inkscape 0.92, 64-bit. Another issue, which is a little bit nit-picky, but still important, imo. For some time, I couldn't figure out what object was being referred to in "Object's bounding box" and "Object's rotational center". Is it the object I am drawing (such as a clock face)? It can't mean the circle, because further below in the dialog, it says "circle" (and if it meant circle, it would have said 'Circle's rotational center').
- The objects that you're aligning along the circle.
But after a lot of clicking around and trial and error, it seems itrefers to the numbers on the clock face example. If that's the case, it should be "Objects' bounding box" and "Objects' rotational center". If they had been properly written, I would have understood at once that the objects in question are the numbers (or whatever objects are being arranged around the circle). Should I make a bug report about that?
- That makes sense, yes. That dialog isn't documented very well...
Regards, Maren
Thanks for your help :-) brynn
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AAarrgh!! This was happening reproducably in a fresh, blank document, every single time the other day. Now it's not happening. Oh well, I'll report if it happens again.
For the punctuation issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1658397
Thanks again for your help, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 8:19 PM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] issues with Arrange > Polar Coordinates
Am 20.01.2017 um 19:13 schrieb brynn:
all the numbers are placed at 3
o'clock.
- This is how it works. Mathematically, the circle's start is at three
o'clock. It's not a bug (do you still have that email where I explained it to you, translating the article linked below?). German speakers, see here: http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2016/Jun/inkscape-entdecker-anordnen1.html
No, I mean ALL the numbers are placed all on top of each other, at the 3 o'clock place. I know that for making a clock, the circle needs to be rotated, so the numbers will be in the proper places. So taking the rotation into consideration, I think they are all placed where 1 o'clock is supposed to be. But still, they aren't supposed to be all on top of each other, are they?
- Oh, I didn't get that, sorry, Brynn :-/ If your objects aren't grouped, and you can reproduce the issue reliably, then yes, that sounds to me as if it's definitely worth a bug report!
Maren
As I said, if I drag the circle by any amount, before clicking Arrange, then the numbers are placed around the circle, as expected.
Should I make bug reports for this, and the punctuation issue?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 9:37 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] issues with Arrange > Polar Coordinates
Hi Brynn,
Am 20.01.2017 um 12:11 schrieb brynn:
Hi Friends,
I was just answering a forum question about creating a clockface, andI used the Polar Coordinates dialog. I found that if I draw a circle, then type out the numbers, then choose Object's Rotational Center and First Circle (or 2nd), then select all, then click Arrange, all the numbers are placed at 3 o'clock.
- This is how it works. Mathematically, the circle's start is at three
o'clock. It's not a bug (do you still have that email where I explained it to you, translating the article linked below?). German speakers, see here: http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2016/Jun/inkscape-entdecker-anordnen1.html
I found that if I move the circle before clicking arrange, it makesthe feature function properly. Should I make a bug report? Or is this already a known issue? I searched LP without finding any similar report. But often I might not know the proper terminology (and recently I found the wiki was being used for bug reports (for gradient mesh)) so I just ask before I make a bug report, just in case. I'm on Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit, Inkscape 0.92, 64-bit. Another issue, which is a little bit nit-picky, but still important, imo. For some time, I couldn't figure out what object was being referred to in "Object's bounding box" and "Object's rotational center". Is it the object I am drawing (such as a clock face)? It can't mean the circle, because further below in the dialog, it says "circle" (and if it meant circle, it would have said 'Circle's rotational center').
- The objects that you're aligning along the circle.
But after a lot of clicking around and trial and error, it seems itrefers to the numbers on the clock face example. If that's the case, it should be "Objects' bounding box" and "Objects' rotational center". If they had been properly written, I would have understood at once that the objects in question are the numbers (or whatever objects are being arranged around the circle). Should I make a bug report about that?
- That makes sense, yes. That dialog isn't documented very well...
Regards, Maren
Thanks for your help :-) brynn
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