Bill,
Not that it really matters to me either way, but why build from source when you can get it already built for ya? Are you modifying the code to suit your needs?
- Tony
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From: "Bill Baxter" <wbaxter@...155...> Didn't notice those... thanks. I'm building from source now, but my build has some issues, it seems (image loading doesn't work). I guess I can check the latest development build to see if things like that are an issue in the code or just in my build of it. So good to know they're out there.
And to think, just a few days ago I was absolutely certain that Inkscape didn't even run on Windows.
--bb
On 4/6/07, Tony Vigil <tjvigil66@...12...> wrote:
Bill,
Not that it really matters to me either way, but why build from source when you can get it already built for ya? Are you modifying the code to suit your needs?
Yep. I plan to start hacking on the code. Biggest hurdle is that I don't know squat about GTK. If anyone knows good resources for learning GTK I'd appreciate it. Is that GTK book by Havoc Pennington a good investment?
--bb
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 05:48:59AM +0900, Bill Baxter wrote:
On 4/6/07, Tony Vigil <tjvigil66@...12...> wrote:
Not that it really matters to me either way, but why build from source when you can get it already built for ya? Are you modifying the code to suit your needs?
Yep. I plan to start hacking on the code. Biggest hurdle is that I don't know squat about GTK. If anyone knows good resources for learning GTK I'd appreciate it. Is that GTK book by Havoc Pennington a good investment?
If it's the one published in 1999, it's not worth it because it focuses on Gtk 1.x. I haven't seen good printed material for Gtk 2.x, unfortunately.
The way I learned was going through the tutorials at gtkmm.org, they were pretty good and didn't take too much time to work through.
For working on existing gtk code in inkscape, you can probably get by just looking up routines at the gtk.org and gtkmm.org websites. The docs are pretty terse but they generally give a fair idea what's going on.
Of course, if you ever get stuck, you can always ask here (or better on the inkscape-devel list), and others can try to help you through it. :-)
Bryce
On 4/6/07, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...983...> wrote:
Biggest hurdle is that I don't know squat about GTK. If anyone knows good resources for learning GTK I'd appreciate it. Is that GTK book by Havoc Pennington a good investment?
If it's the one published in 1999, it's not worth it because it focuses on Gtk 1.x. I haven't seen good printed material for Gtk 2.x, unfortunately.
Hmm. Ok. Good to know. I almost did an impulse buy yesterday on Amazon. The recent wxPython book is a very nice reference and guide, and even if I don't refer to it that much it's nice to have there by my side when I foray into new or forgotten territory.
The way I learned was going through the tutorials at gtkmm.org, they were pretty good and didn't take too much time to work through.
Ok. Thanks for the recommendation.
For working on existing gtk code in inkscape, you can probably get by just looking up routines at the gtk.org and gtkmm.org websites. The docs are pretty terse but they generally give a fair idea what's going on.
Of course, if you ever get stuck, you can always ask here (or better on the inkscape-devel list), and others can try to help you through it.
Yeh, but I don't want to waste your time asking questions like "what's the spinner widget called in GTK?"
Thanks.
--bb
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 06:41:48AM +0900, Bill Baxter wrote:
On 4/6/07, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...983...> wrote:
Biggest hurdle is that I don't know squat about GTK. If anyone knows good resources for learning GTK I'd appreciate it. Is that GTK book by Havoc Pennington a good investment?
If it's the one published in 1999, it's not worth it because it focuses on Gtk 1.x. I haven't seen good printed material for Gtk 2.x, unfortunately.
Hmm. Ok. Good to know. I almost did an impulse buy yesterday on Amazon. The recent wxPython book is a very nice reference and guide, and even if I don't refer to it that much it's nice to have there by my side when I foray into new or forgotten territory.
Yeah mine turned out to be precisely the right width to prop up my second monitor so both my monitors are even, so it wasn't a complete waste of a purchase. ;-)
For working on existing gtk code in inkscape, you can probably get by just looking up routines at the gtk.org and gtkmm.org websites. The docs are pretty terse but they generally give a fair idea what's going on.
Of course, if you ever get stuck, you can always ask here (or better on the inkscape-devel list), and others can try to help you through it.
Yeh, but I don't want to waste your time asking questions like "what's the spinner widget called in GTK?"
Hehe. There is a useful page on the gtk.org site that lists ALL of the classes sorted by type that's handy for that.
But once you get deeper into things you'll find areas the docs don't cover, and that google doesn't give much help on, which are good to ask on the list.
Also, there is an #inkscape IRC channel that a lot of folks hang out on, which some people find to be a good place to ask development questions in a more informal setting.
Bryce
On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 14:09 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 05:48:59AM +0900, Bill Baxter wrote:
Yep. I plan to start hacking on the code. Biggest hurdle is that I don't know squat about GTK. If anyone knows good resources for learning GTK I'd appreciate it. Is that GTK book by Havoc Pennington a good investment?
If it's the one published in 1999, it's not worth it because it focuses on Gtk 1.x. I haven't seen good printed material for Gtk 2.x, unfortunately.
While I agree it's dated, I wouldn't say it isn't worth it. The nice part about the Havoc book is that it goes through the philosophy of what GTK+ is doing. I think that's the real trick in learning GTK+. But, since it is dated, try to borrow one from a friend or someone at your local LUG.
Of course you can also ask on these lists, or the GTK lists.
--Ted
On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Bill Baxter wrote:
Yep. I plan to start hacking on the code. Biggest hurdle is that I don't know squat about GTK. If anyone knows good resources for learning GTK I'd appreciate it. Is that GTK book by Havoc Pennington a good investment?
The # one thing I'd suggest is getting online with the various chat rooms. If you're the type of person to thrives on learning from books, then that one might be good. But being able to ping people in real time and get quick pointers to web resources can speed things up.
Personally I do most of my learning (including GTK+, Qt, etc) via web and then chat follow-ups.
On 4/6/07, Jon A. Cruz <jon@...204...> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Bill Baxter wrote:
Yep. I plan to start hacking on the code. Biggest hurdle is that I
don't know squat about GTK. If anyone knows good resources for
learning GTK I'd appreciate it. Is that GTK book by Havoc Pennington
a good investment? The # one thing I'd suggest is getting online with the various chat rooms. If you're the type of person to thrives on learning from books, then that one might be good. But being able to ping people in real time and get quick pointers to web resources can speed things up.
Personally I do most of my learning (including GTK+, Qt, etc) via web and then chat follow-ups.
Hmm. Yeh this seems to be something used more and more these days. By chat rooms you mean IRC? I guess I should give it another try. Is there a good IRC client for Windows that doesn't suck? The last one I tried came with suck by the bucketload.
--bb
On Apr 5, 2007, at 5:22 PM, Bill Baxter wrote:
Hmm. Yeh this seems to be something used more and more these days. By chat rooms you mean IRC? I guess I should give it another try. Is there a good IRC client for Windows that doesn't suck? The last one I tried came with suck by the bucketload.
Or Jabber. I know that's where all the cool kids hang out. :-)
Gaim is a decent start. Then if you go with Jabber, there are a few other clients out there.
On 4/6/07, Jon A. Cruz <jon@...204...> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2007, at 5:22 PM, Bill Baxter wrote:
Hmm. Yeh this seems to be something used more and more these days. By
chat rooms you mean IRC? I guess I should give it another try. Is
there a good IRC client for Windows that doesn't suck? The last one I
tried came with suck by the bucketload. Or Jabber. I know that's where all the cool kids hang out. :-)
Gaim is a decent start. Then if you go with Jabber, there are a few other clients out there.
I think Gaim was the one I tried previously. But it looks like it was 1.0.0, whereas 1.5.0 is current. I'll give it another go.
--bb
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 09:50:07AM +0900, Bill Baxter wrote:
On 4/6/07, Jon A. Cruz <jon@...204...> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2007, at 5:22 PM, Bill Baxter wrote: Hmm. Yeh this seems to be something used more and more these days. By
chat rooms you mean IRC? I guess I should give it another try. Is
there a good IRC client for Windows that doesn't suck? The last one I
tried came with suck by the bucketload. Or Jabber. I know that's where all the cool kids hang out. :-)
Gaim is a decent start. Then if you go with Jabber, there are a few other clients out there.
I think Gaim was the one I tried previously. But it looks like it was 1.0.0, whereas 1.5.0 is current. I'll give it another go.
Back when I used Windows long ago, there was an IRC client called mIRC which seemed okay. I imagine there's better ones available these days.
Bryce
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