It's definitely Alt-click on the (old, Gnome 2) Ubuntu box I've got here.

Alt-drag has been used for as many years as I can remember in the Linux world for dragging windows, which can cause it to clash with Inkscape's use of Alt. My usual advice is to disable it in your window manager's keybindings (which will generally disable it for all applications), or hold down the Super (Windows) key first, then hold Alt, then click or drag (so it becomes Super-Alt-click). On most window managers the latter approach is sufficient for it to not interpret it as an Alt-click for moving the window.

FWIW, the Alt-drag feature of Linux can be a godsend when you're forced into a low-resolution screen for some reason and have to deal with dialogues that are too big to fit.

Mark

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:

On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 14:07 +0200, darkweasel wrote:

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Try alt-click.

It's Ctrl-click, although Alt doesn't do anything but move the window in Xorg, I wonder if that's by design.

Martin,

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On 07/16/2013 04:07 PM, su_v wrote:

@Javier - you'd have to be more specific about what

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I have an object inside another one.

I had a text inside a box. You gave the key: the text actually was *under* the box. Since the box was using a transparent fill, it seemed it was above the box.

Thanks

Javi

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Chris Tooley <euxneks@...155...> wrote:

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My usual advice is to disable it in your window manager's keybindings

(which will generally disable it for all applications)

*gasp* This is the single most useful feature I've ever had the misfortune of losing by going to mac or windows. How dare you, sir!

Way to quote me out of context! I went on to offer an alternative of holding the Super key with Alt (which is the method I use) and also to say "FWIW, the Alt-drag feature of Linux can be a godsend...".

w.r.t. the topic: Isn't there a way to modify the keyboard bindings in Inkscape...?

The FAQ that suv linked to mentions that.

Mark

On the subject of rubber band approaches to the poblem: if you hold SHIFT while dragging a rubber band around just the inside object you can even have your rubber band starting on the outer object. Holding SHIFT stops the "click and drag" of the rubber band movement from being interpreted as a "select and move" operation. You can release the SHIFT key as soon as you've started dragging, if you want - it only has an effect on the initial click.

Mark

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Steve Litt <slitt@...2357...>wrote:

Hi Javi,

What I've always done is to start in outside of both objects, in the upper right of the inner object, then drag until the rubberband surrounds the inside object, but not the outside one. It sounds like a PITA, but you get used to it.

SteveT

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