Draw a web site using only Inkscape
Hello, everyone!
I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format.
Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at
Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen
I drew my last website design in Inkscape but I exported to PNGs for a number of reasons. http://www.nsfilms.com/test.html
Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format.
Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at
Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen
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The same for these two websites: all design (all pages) in inkscape first, then pngs. http://www.tanches-volantes.fr http://www.cavaliersdubourbonnais.fr
That's a good way to prepare look and feel! I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
Tibo
On 5/31/07, Dave Niezabitowski <dniezby@...1263...> wrote:
I drew my last website design in Inkscape but I exported to PNGs for a number of reasons. http://www.nsfilms.com/test.html
Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format.
Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at
Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen
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excellent idea - is there any way you can get simple animations to work on it? I'll see if I can work this in for my non-Internet Explorer users
On May 31, 2007, at 4:35 AM, Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format.
Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at
Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen
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is there some way to use stylesheets with SVG or if we could get web safe color palette available for Inkscape, that would make it much easier to use for web design. That is one thing I like about Mac OS X Carbon and Cocoa applications, because they have a web safe color palette.
On May 31, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Benjamin Huot wrote:
excellent idea - is there any way you can get simple animations to work on it? I'll see if I can work this in for my non-Internet Explorer users
On May 31, 2007, at 4:35 AM, Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format.
Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at
Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen
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Benjamin Huot wrote the following on 5/31/2007 1:26 PM:
is there some way to use stylesheets with SVG or if we could get web safe color palette available for Inkscape, that would make it much easier to use for web design. That is one thing I like about Mac OS X Carbon and Cocoa applications, because they have a web safe color palette.
i believe inkscape has a web color pallete. button at the lower right of your app.
heathenx
thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of my stylesheets.
On May 31, 2007, at 10:40 AM, heathenx wrote:
Benjamin Huot wrote the following on 5/31/2007 1:26 PM:
is there some way to use stylesheets with SVG or if we could get web safe color palette available for Inkscape, that would make it much easier to use for web design. That is one thing I like about Mac OS X Carbon and Cocoa applications, because they have a web safe color palette.
i believe inkscape has a web color pallete. button at the lower right of your app.
heathenx
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Just use the color wheel. I have used every combination that I can think of with it and haven't run into color problems yet.
Benjamin Huot wrote:
is there some way to use stylesheets with SVG or if we could get web safe color palette available for Inkscape, that would make it much easier to use for web design. That is one thing I like about Mac OS X Carbon and Cocoa applications, because they have a web safe color palette.
On May 31, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Benjamin Huot wrote:
excellent idea - is there any way you can get simple animations to work on it? I'll see if I can work this in for my non-Internet Explorer users
On May 31, 2007, at 4:35 AM, Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format.
Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at
Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen
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Benjamin Huot wrote the following on 5/31/2007 2:03 PM:
thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of my stylesheets.
what! you need more than just black and white? what the heck are you doing'?
kidding...
heathenx
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
Thibaut Raballand wrote:
I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
They are. It's called Flash.
They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation.
Benjamin Huot wrote:
thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of my stylesheets.
There are two web safe palettes. WebSafe22 and WebHex. But if you find that they do not fill your needs, you could make a palette that fits your needs exactly. At the moment we share palette formats with Gimp. The format is simple.
Aaron Spike
Nice site, Dave! :-)
I agree that there are number of valid reasons for exporting vector graphics to bitmapped versions. However, at present I find it more interesting to explore XML/SVG/CSS combined with AJAX to draw scalable, web-based interfaces to controll remote robots. A streaming web cam allows the operator to see what they are doing. Having watched a number of users with less than perfect eye-sight struggle with fixed size user interfaces, it would seem worthwhile to investigate the use of XML/SVG/CSS in browsers that allow arbitrary enlargement with CTRL and the +-sign and reduction using CTRL and --sign. This is supported in Mozilla Firefox, Konqueror (Safari?) and Internet Explorer 7, as far as I know. User-defined CSS could accomodate for users with special colour needs.
Cheers, Haakon
Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
I drew my last website design in Inkscape but I exported to PNGs for a number of reasons. http://www.nsfilms.com/test.html
I see webhex now and how to use that, but how can I enter hexadecimel color codes? All I see is CMYK and RGB color codes.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Aaron Spike wrote:
Benjamin Huot wrote:
thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of my stylesheets.
There are two web safe palettes. WebSafe22 and WebHex. But if you find that they do not fill your needs, you could make a palette that fits your needs exactly. At the moment we share palette formats with Gimp. The format is simple.
Aaron Spike
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Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 has past 90% install base. But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
Thibaut Raballand wrote:
I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
They are. It's called Flash.
They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation.
-- "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He doesn't use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, like 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, really, I ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh Corner'
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The SVG site works in latest Opera and Firefox, but not latest Safari. Safari just downloads the SVG file. I will test it later in Konqueror.
On May 31, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Benjamin Huot wrote:
Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 has past 90% install base. But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
Thibaut Raballand wrote:
I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
They are. It's called Flash.
They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation.
-- "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He doesn't use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, like 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, really, I ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh Corner'
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0700, Benjamin Huot wrote:
The SVG site works in latest Opera and Firefox, but not latest Safari. Safari just downloads the SVG file. I will test it later in Konqueror.
I just tried it in Konqueror 3.5.5, and it works fine.
Yes, but isn't content creation for Flash pretty much tied to either Windows or a Mac (no linux...unless you want to jump through a buncha hoops), and the $$$ for buying Flash from Macromedia?
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Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 has past 90% install base. But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
Thibaut Raballand wrote:
I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
They are. It's called Flash.
They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation.
-- "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He doesn't use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, like 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, really, I ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh Corner'
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Elwin Estle wrote:
Yes, but isn't content creation for Flash pretty much tied to either Windows or a Mac (no linux...unless you want to jump through a buncha hoops), and the $$$ for buying Flash from Macromedia?
--- Benjamin Huot <benjaminhuot@...1263...> wrote:
Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 has past 90% install base. But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
Thibaut Raballand wrote:
I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
They are. It's called Flash.
They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation.
-- "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He doesn't use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, like 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, really, I ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh Corner'
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--- Dave Niezabitowski <dniezby@...1263...> wrote:
If low cost flash creation is what you're looking for then http://www.koolmoves.com is what you're looking for.
Elwin Estle wrote:
Yes, but isn't content creation for Flash pretty much tied to either Windows or a Mac
(no
linux...unless you want to jump through a buncha hoops), and the $$$ for buying Flash from Macromedia?
--- Benjamin Huot <benjaminhuot@...1263...> wrote:
Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 has past 90% install base. But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
Thibaut Raballand wrote:
I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
They are. It's called Flash.
They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation.
-- "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He doesn't use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, like 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, really, I ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh Corner'
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On Thursday 31 May 2007 11:42, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
I drew my last website design in Inkscape but I exported to PNGs for a number of reasons. http://www.nsfilms.com/test.html
Irony of ironies. I have Flash 9x reader installed, but your site tells me I must "upgrade to Flash 8 :<)
For viewing it is available for Linux, for producing it may take a little more work.
I use Toon Boom Studio Express and OpenLaszlo on the Mac for my Flash animations and interactivity
I also use Flash Paper which isn't available for Linux but most people won't use Flash for that
Flash 7 video can be created with ffmpeg legally for free.
I have never bought Flash and the way I do it is pretty easy, although inserting it is not as easy - for that I use Dreamweaver.
You can use Anime Studio or Ktoon on Linux with Openlaszlo on Linux and then ffmpeg for flash 7 video
Toon Boom http://www.toonboom.com/
Anime Studio http://www.e-frontier.com/article/articleview/1916/1/796?sbss=796
Ktoon http://ktoon.toonka.com/
OpenLaszlo http://www.openlaszlo.org/
On May 31, 2007, at 12:56 PM, Elwin Estle wrote:
Yes, but isn't content creation for Flash pretty much tied to either Windows or a Mac (no linux...unless you want to jump through a buncha hoops), and the $$ $ for buying Flash from Macromedia?
--- Benjamin Huot <benjaminhuot@...1263...> wrote:
Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 has past 90% install base. But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote:
Thibaut Raballand wrote:
I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !
They are. It's called Flash.
They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation.
-- "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He doesn't use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, like 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, really, I ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh Corner'
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Opera have some nice SVG tutorial for web stuff, but none deal directly with Inkscape - http://dev.opera.com/articles/svg/
Here's an example that's quite neat - http://devfiles.myopera.com/articles/61/ex7-gallery.xhtml
One issue I've had with SVG files is how to display them in a HTML file. It was a while ago that I tried, and I think my issue was that I couldn't work with it as easily as with a bitmapped image. I couldn't scale the size which is kinda strange since that's the advantage of vector over bitmap.
Haakon Meland Eriksen-2 wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format.
Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at
Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen
GIMP (and also the new version of Scribus, I believe) has an interesting feature called Display Filters. The filters simulate several vision problems and different screen settings. This way, the designer may test if a given color set is going to be easily viewable in any screen by any person (or sort of...).
Maybe it would be interesting to add a feature like that to Inkscape...
Just by 3 cents :)
Victor Domingos (inkscaping from Braga, Portugal) http://lojamac.com/blog
Em 2007/05/31, às 19:03, Benjamin Huot escreveu:
thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of my stylesheets.
On May 31, 2007, at 10:40 AM, heathenx wrote:
Benjamin Huot wrote the following on 5/31/2007 1:26 PM:
is there some way to use stylesheets with SVG or if we could get web safe color palette available for Inkscape, that would make it much easier to use for web design. That is one thing I like about Mac OS X Carbon and Cocoa applications, because they have a web safe color palette.
On Jun 1, 2007, at 5:17 AM, Victor Domingos wrote:
GIMP (and also the new version of Scribus, I believe) has an interesting feature called Display Filters. The filters simulate several vision problems and different screen settings. This way, the designer may test if a given color set is going to be easily viewable in any screen by any person (or sort of...).
Maybe it would be interesting to add a feature like that to Inkscape...
Just by 3 cents :)
Victor Domingos (inkscaping from Braga, Portugal) http://lojamac.com/blog
Yes, that is planned, and very close to happening.
On May 31, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Benjamin Huot wrote:
thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of my stylesheets.
Actually to be "web safe" you only can use 22.
The other "safe" palette is from waaaaay back in the early-mid nineties, when people only had 8-bit display cards and mainly just ran things at 640x480.
With vector graphics you have no hard palette limitations, and can use whatever colors you want.
Hi Benjamin - sorry for the long delay! Yes, you can get fairly simple animations to work on it - try searching for "animated SVG" at your favourite search engine. I'm not going to add animation to this particulare example, because I want to keep it simple - just draw and link with Inkscape and publish.
Cheers, Haakon
Benjamin Huot wrote:
excellent idea - is there any way you can get simple animations to work on it? I'll see if I can work this in for my non-Internet Explorer users
Benjamin Huot wrote:
is there some way to use stylesheets with SVG or if we could get web safe color palette available for Inkscape, that would make it much easier to use for web design. That is one thing I like about Mac OS X Carbon and Cocoa applications, because they have a web safe color palette.
Yes, you can use stylesheets with SVG. If you disable styles and view the example the shapes are still there, but are rendered black. :-)
Cheers, Haakon
Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0700, Benjamin Huot wrote:
The SVG site works in latest Opera and Firefox, but not latest Safari. Safari just downloads the SVG file. I will test it later in Konqueror.
I just tried it in Konqueror 3.5.5, and it works fine.
Great! I have come across some problems with my "Hello World"-example:
1. While the main text is created with the <text> tag, menues and headers are drawn paths. I thought the other fonts spiced things up a bit, but had to use the to paths function to keep them looking like that. Personally, I believe the best way around this problem is to recreate font-families as stylesheets. Why require the browser to have access to a special font, when you could simply style Courier or whatever? You could have one UTF-8 font, and then style it with kerning and so on anyway you like. There is probably some good technical reason this is not done. :-)
2. Selecting text is not possible in Mozilla Firefox 2.x - this is just as bad as Flash. Have anyone tried this in Opera, Safari or Konqueror?
3. The transparent menu boxes are clickable, but the path underneath is not. A designer friend pointed this out to me. The text path is below the transparent box, so why is the arrow interacting with it? At first, I added the xlink to text path, but then you could only click on the path it self, which is hard to do. So the transparent boxes on top are a work-around, which almost works. Is there some way to specify a clickable bounding box around the text path? I imagine this would make the text path easy to click, and no extra objects would be needed.
4. If the title had been text, and not a path, how would I go about marking it as such aka a classic HTML <title>-tag? If you look at the example using Firefox 2, you will notice there is no title in the title bar of your browser. This slows down bookmarking and indexing. Is there some way to do this today?
Well, those were the most obvious once to me. I'm sure you have spotted other problems whilst developing your own SVG-sites. :-)
Cheers, Haakon
Hey, thanks - those links were great!
Cheers Haakon
microUgly skrev:
Opera have some nice SVG tutorial for web stuff, but none deal directly with Inkscape - http://dev.opera.com/articles/svg/
Here's an example that's quite neat - http://devfiles.myopera.com/articles/61/ex7-gallery.xhtml
One issue I've had with SVG files is how to display them in a HTML file. It was a while ago that I tried, and I think my issue was that I couldn't work with it as easily as with a bitmapped image. I couldn't scale the size which is kinda strange since that's the advantage of vector over bitmap.
microUgly wrote:
Opera have some nice SVG tutorial for web stuff, but none deal directly with Inkscape - http://dev.opera.com/articles/svg/
Hi
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/playing-svg-darts-target-practice/ in the last paragraph he speaks of Inkscape that he used to sonvert strokes to path.
Also, he doesn't seem to enjoy that Inkscape rewrites parts of the code: "I love Inkscape, but i don't like that it changes SVG that I didn't call any actions on into code that is quite different of which the rendering is sometimes not the same, though very, very similar."
By the way, Opera's native support of SVG is by far the best among browsers. For example http://devfiles.myopera.com/articles/76/SolarSystem1.svg doesn't move in Firefox 2.0.0.4 or in Safari (on WinXP). I therefore test SVG rendering in Opera in the first place. Firefox 3 (Gecko 1.9) should bring a better and more complete support of SVG 1.1, But I know nothing about Apple's plans about Safari and SVG...
Molumen
It works in the Safari 3 beta which is also available for Windows now. I am not sure about text selection though.
On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:00 AM, Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote:
Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0700, Benjamin Huot wrote:
The SVG site works in latest Opera and Firefox, but not latest Safari. Safari just downloads the SVG file. I will test it later in Konqueror.
I just tried it in Konqueror 3.5.5, and it works fine.
Great! I have come across some problems with my "Hello World"-example:
- While the main text is created with the <text> tag, menues and
headers are drawn paths. I thought the other fonts spiced things up a bit, but had to use the to paths function to keep them looking like that. Personally, I believe the best way around this problem is to recreate font-families as stylesheets. Why require the browser to have access to a special font, when you could simply style Courier or whatever? You could have one UTF-8 font, and then style it with kerning and so on anyway you like. There is probably some good technical reason this is not done. :-)
- Selecting text is not possible in Mozilla Firefox 2.x - this is
just as bad as Flash. Have anyone tried this in Opera, Safari or Konqueror?
- The transparent menu boxes are clickable, but the path
underneath is not. A designer friend pointed this out to me. The text path is below the transparent box, so why is the arrow interacting with it? At first, I added the xlink to text path, but then you could only click on the path it self, which is hard to do. So the transparent boxes on top are a work-around, which almost works. Is there some way to specify a clickable bounding box around the text path? I imagine this would make the text path easy to click, and no extra objects would be needed.
- If the title had been text, and not a path, how would I go about
marking it as such aka a classic HTML <title>-tag? If you look at the example using Firefox 2, you will notice there is no title in the title bar of your browser. This slows down bookmarking and indexing. Is there some way to do this today?
Well, those were the most obvious once to me. I'm sure you have spotted other problems whilst developing your own SVG-sites. :-)
Cheers, Haakon
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Aaron Spike -
Benjamin Huot -
Daniel Hulme -
Dave Niezabitowski -
Elwin Estle -
Haakon Meland Eriksen -
heathenx -
Jeffrey Brent McBeth -
John R. Culleton -
Jon A. Cruz -
microUgly -
momo -
Richard Querin -
Thibaut Raballand -
Victor Domingos