Yesterday Mc- brought up a design for the inkscape website which got a few approval nods from various attending people:
https://yadi.sk/i/CfqypzmvpPbay
I contacted the designer at the time and just heard back. So what we have here is a psd of a single page that flows downwards. I expect it to assume a standard set of css frameworks such as bootstrap or similar.
I also know that Hinerangi has some designs waiting in the wings for the website and that we've stalled on moving more improvements in.
I'm interested in hearing wider feedback from the community since I've been under the impression that the website's design has been fairly serviceable. A replacement would be a fair amount of work and at the moment I'm only committed to making sure the technical integration of any proposed design goes ahead without any barriers.
What do you think we should do?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
I'm interested in hearing wider feedback from the community since I've been under the impression that the website's design has been fairly
serviceable.
I agree I thought the website was working ok what are the concerns people are having with the website responsive design? more modern feel?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
Yesterday Mc- brought up a design for the inkscape website which got a few approval nods from various attending people:
https://yadi.sk/i/CfqypzmvpPbay
I contacted the designer at the time and just heard back. So what we have here is a psd of a single page that flows downwards. I expect it to assume a standard set of css frameworks such as bootstrap or similar.
I also know that Hinerangi has some designs waiting in the wings for the website and that we've stalled on moving more improvements in.
I'm interested in hearing wider feedback from the community since I've been under the impression that the website's design has been fairly serviceable. A replacement would be a fair amount of work and at the moment I'm only committed to making sure the technical integration of any proposed design goes ahead without any barriers.
What do you think we should do?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 11:14 -0500, Golden Ribbon wrote:
I agree I thought the website was working ok what are the concerns people are having
with the website responsive design? more modern feel?
Hi Golden,
I think the main element is this:
* Responsive design
There's some look and feel enhancements there, maybe we (by which I mean Josh ;-)) can integrate some of the nicer visuals. But the responsive design is more of a core architecture thing which will probably need my help in the templates.
My personal concerns are cleanup on all non-cms pages and the downloads page which we talked about too. Some of that is functional stuff.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:51:25 -0500 Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
Yesterday Mc- brought up a design for the inkscape website which got a few approval nods from various attending people:
https://yadi.sk/i/CfqypzmvpPbay
I contacted the designer at the time and just heard back. So what we have here is a psd of a single page that flows downwards. I expect it to assume a standard set of css frameworks such as bootstrap or similar.
I also know that Hinerangi has some designs waiting in the wings for the website and that we've stalled on moving more improvements in.
I'm interested in hearing wider feedback from the community since I've been under the impression that the website's design has been fairly serviceable. A replacement would be a fair amount of work and at the moment I'm only committed to making sure the technical integration of any proposed design goes ahead without any barriers.
What do you think we should do?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
I'm a long-term user of Inkscape, but don't often have much to say. I'm also not really terribly concerned with web layout. Mostly I want to get in, find information, get out.
However, I can see that it's a bit different when it's a graphics package your promoting :)
So... I liked the page you linked. Apart from the fairly obvious car, how much of the contend was created with Inkscape?
On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 16:24 +0000, Abrolag wrote:
So... I liked the page you linked. Apart from the fairly obvious car, how much of the contend was created with Inkscape?
All the images were made with inkscape. The layout was made in photoshop by the designer.
Martin,
In general I like this design. If you're going for a fully responsive, mobile-device friendly update I support that, because right now the Inkscape site is a bit tiny when I drop by with my phone.
The only caveats I have: the purple-on-black color scheme immediately makes me think of an Ubuntu project. I'm not sure why since the color scheme for the Ubuntu site is orange. It might be that I'm associating it with the Unity UI. I'm not sure that's a useful association for Inkscape to make since it runs on more than just that. Also, thin purploe text on a black background (as seen in the footer) is very hard to read.
But overall I like it.
Chris Wright (wrightc@...537...)
On 2016-02-24 10:51, Martin Owens wrote:
Yesterday Mc- brought up a design for the inkscape website which got a few approval nods from various attending people:
https://yadi.sk/i/CfqypzmvpPbay
I contacted the designer at the time and just heard back. So what we have here is a psd of a single page that flows downwards. I expect it to assume a standard set of css frameworks such as bootstrap or similar.
I also know that Hinerangi has some designs waiting in the wings for the website and that we've stalled on moving more improvements in.
I'm interested in hearing wider feedback from the community since I've been under the impression that the website's design has been fairly serviceable. A replacement would be a fair amount of work and at the moment I'm only committed to making sure the technical integration of any proposed design goes ahead without any barriers.
What do you think we should do?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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Whatever happened with the guy who expressed an interest in managing / admin-ing the website? I can't remember his name but he said he thought he had the right kind of skills, but was lacking in experience (iirc). And I remember he said something like he was going to start studying right away, and get up to speed. But I haven't heard anything else about it. Can't even find the bug report where it was discussed.
I've been hoping for a responsive design, and maybe changing some of the text/font and formatting styles. For example, maybe it's a fad or trend these days or something, but almost all the text is left justified, which imo makes it hard to read, and visually offputting. I think there needs to be some indenting written into the styles (css), to make pages more inviting and easier to read. And maybe even some graphics, on each page, as part of the overall style (at least in header or footer).
It doesn't seem like there's an urgent need for these changes. But otoh, if not now, when? Can we see Hinerangi's designs?
I agree with Eduard about that particular style. There's just a ton of empty space, which to me gives the impression "there's nothing here" and "whatever is here is hidden".
I'm not a big fan of white text on a black background in the first place - but definitely not for the main introduction of the website. And that pale white is awfully hard to read. Really I can only read the bold or white-white words. That particular bit of text should be the most readable text in the whole site. I'm not sure if it's that font that's hard to read, or if it's just the rasterness making it slightly blurry.
But, I do like that yellow car image on the black background. That looks nice!
Will those 4 sections, which I think might be called a "shield" on the live site (Overview, Features, etc.) behave the same as they do now -- where they individually take up the whole width of the page? Or will they literally be that small? I think they need to be larger. And what the heck -- we have all kinds of empty space. Let's fill it with Inkscape images! Why not use the same shield. It really is nice, imo!
Last comment. The icon for the Users section appears to be male. Any chance for either a non-gender-specific icon, or maybe have a male and female in the icon? Or even a group of people including teens and children?
All best, brynn
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Owens" <doctormo@...155...> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 AM To: "inkscape-devel" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: "Hinerangi Courtenay" <hine.courtenay@...12...>; "inkscape-user" inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Website Design
Yesterday Mc- brought up a design for the inkscape website which got a few approval nods from various attending people:
https://yadi.sk/i/CfqypzmvpPbay
I contacted the designer at the time and just heard back. So what we have here is a psd of a single page that flows downwards. I expect it to assume a standard set of css frameworks such as bootstrap or similar.
I also know that Hinerangi has some designs waiting in the wings for the website and that we've stalled on moving more improvements in.
I'm interested in hearing wider feedback from the community since I've been under the impression that the website's design has been fairly serviceable. A replacement would be a fair amount of work and at the moment I'm only committed to making sure the technical integration of any proposed design goes ahead without any barriers.
What do you think we should do?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 12:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
Whatever happened with the guy who expressed an interest in managing / admin-ing the website?
There are lots of people who come and go as they find time to help and then get busy again. I'm not too worried, but if you remember his name, give him an email about the thread.
It doesn't seem like there's an urgent need for these changes. But otoh, if not now, when? Can we see Hinerangi's designs?
See ealier email from today where she sent her designs to the lists.
Will those 4 sections, which I think might be called a "shield" on the live site (Overview, Features, etc.) behave the same as they do now -- where they individually take up the whole width of the page?
Nothing is decided, these are different proposals.
The icon for the Users section appears to be male.
Yeah, we would have to re-draw all those symbols if we wanted to use them anyway. Since they're currently embeded in a psd (one that doesn't open in gimp very well).
Martin,
How about using a framework for the responsive matter, it could be a simple one like skeleton or a fully featured one like foundation.
El 24 de febrero de 2016 15:01:13 CST, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> escribió:
On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 12:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
Whatever happened with the guy who expressed an interest in managing
/
admin-ing the website?
There are lots of people who come and go as they find time to help and then get busy again. I'm not too worried, but if you remember his name, give him an email about the thread.
It doesn't seem like there's an urgent need for these changes. But
otoh, if
not now, when? Can we see Hinerangi's designs?
See ealier email from today where she sent her designs to the lists.
Will those 4 sections, which I think might be called a "shield" on
the live
site (Overview, Features, etc.) behave the same as they do now --
where they
individually take up the whole width of the page?
Nothing is decided, these are different proposals.
The icon for the Users section appears to be male.
Yeah, we would have to re-draw all those symbols if we wanted to use them anyway. Since they're currently embeded in a psd (one that doesn't open in gimp very well).
Martin,
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On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 18:36 -0600, César Valadez wrote:
How about using a framework for the responsive matter, it could be a simple one like skeleton or a fully featured one like foundation.
All good ideas. But the framework we choose will likely depend on the person who is able to do the work required, I'm happy to let the css maker and template editors make the call on what to use.
If you're interested in helping Josh with the production, I think he will act as a center point for this. I'd be happy if he ends up making the call on what framework to use.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
I'm actually a Web designer and use those frameworks and a couple more quite often. Should I contact Josh directly?
El 24 de febrero de 2016 19:21:44 CST, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> escribió:
On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 18:36 -0600, César Valadez wrote:
How about using a framework for the responsive matter, it could be a simple one like skeleton or a fully featured one like foundation.
All good ideas. But the framework we choose will likely depend on the person who is able to do the work required, I'm happy to let the css maker and template editors make the call on what to use.
If you're interested in helping Josh with the production, I think he will act as a center point for this. I'd be happy if he ends up making the call on what framework to use.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:11 PM, César Valadez <cesasol@...9...> wrote:
I'm actually a Web designer and use those frameworks and a couple more quite often. Should I contact Josh directly?
We can talk on-list, or off-list... it makes no difference to me at this stage. I'm still looking about 2 weeks out or so for me to have the time to really start digging into it.
You brought up skeleton and foundation as frameworks for the frontend... you most likely have far more experience with this area than I do, so if you think one makes more sense over the other (even if it might initially be more work) I'd be interested to know why, and I'd likely defer to your experience since my end goal is getting a nice looking responsive front page/site.
Cheers, Josh
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