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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 40 Messages, 2 Files, 433978 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: raniaamina & doctormo
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21
29 Apr '21
2020-07-23 00-47-39 PDT Martin Owens You want to mirror media.inkscape.org or alpha.inkscape.org? 2020-07-23 02-11-11 PDT Martin Owens You can CC doctormo(a)geek-2.com if you think the email isn't getting to me. 2020-07-01 08-19-57 PDT Martin Owens Oh wow, I love physical events. I do "learn to teach, teach to learn" here in Boston, USA. For teenagers. It's a lot of fun. 2020-07-23 02-27-22 PDT Martin Owens If the sun explode.. this is technically an end ;-) 2020-07-01 08-14-51 PDT Martin Owens Rizky Djati Munggaran? 2020-07-01 08-25-45 PDT Martin Owens This is good to know. Probably already have all the channels needed to chat about things. But we can also make rocket chat live channel too. 2020-07-23 02-17-43 PDT Martin Owens How are things going in Indonesia? 2020-07-23 00-47-11 PDT Martin Owens Hi 2020-07-23 02-24-06 PDT Martin Owens Boston is better than most places in the USA right now. University is planning on online only for most people. Can eat at restaurants again, but outside. They have added tables and chairs to lots of streets. Which is good thing even if no virus. 2020-07-23 02-10-52 PDT Martin Owens Sure webmaster(a)inkscape.org :-) 2020-07-01 08-12-00 PDT Martin Owens Also, how did your event go, was the Inkscape content good? 2020-07-01 08-15-28 PDT Martin Owens I wish we had more of his works https://inkscape.org/~ridjam/ 2020-07-23 01-41-03 PDT Martin Owens Yes 2020-07-23 02-28-02 PDT Martin Owens I think the USA is focused on not an end, but a middle. Because everything is turning bad right now. 2020-07-23 02-37-00 PDT Martin Owens Our of control virus, secret police, possible breaking democracy. 2021 will either be much better, or much worse. But not the same. 2020-07-01 08-20-49 PDT Martin Owens Should we make Indonesian forum on https://inkscape.org/forums/ ? (we currently have German and English). 2020-07-01 08-05-12 PDT Martin Owens The check will take three weeks :-( but I will let you know when we get a response. 2020-07-01 09-13-02 PDT Martin Owens Agree! Only for more bridges between our country's communities. 😅 2020-07-01 08-04-53 PDT Martin Owens hi raniaamina, I got the request from michele. Thanks so much! 2020-07-01 08-15-56 PDT Martin Owens He's very good. I use his cartoons for anonymous forum avatar. 2020-07-01 08-04-02 PDT Rania Amina Hi, i'm so sorry for disturbing you.
I just wanna inform, that Gimpscape recenty send donation (from Artweek event) with amount $115, hope it sent correctly. Would you check it, please :")
Thank you. 2020-07-01 09-16-12 PDT Rania Amina That's true! 2020-07-23 02-22-38 PDT Rania Amina Most of event held as online event, very difficult to get permission from government to make offline event 2020-07-01 08-14-00 PDT Rania Amina Very good, soon one of them (Ridjam, i think he one of famous inkscape artist) give very good workshop, and most of them can follow his class very well 2020-07-01 08-06-07 PDT Rania Amina No problem, thanks :")
2020-07-22 20-09-40 PDT Rania Amina some%20people%20get%20very%20slow%20connection%20when%20download%20from%20Inkscape%20Website (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/hWajtta2HD47v8cmH/some%2520people%252…) 2020-07-23 00-56-43 PDT Rania Amina All installer file if possible (include stable version) 2020-07-01 08-57-34 PDT Rania Amina Yeah, i think every country has own platform that suitable with their habbit, to campaign about foss efficiently we need to go to their environment, imho😅 2020-07-23 02-36-11 PDT Rania Amina Turning bad?🤔 2020-07-23 02-10-28 PDT Rania Amina May i get you email address?🙈 2020-07-22 20-07-59 PDT Rania Amina Hi, one of gimpscape member wanna mirroring inkscape installer to Indonesia server. Is it any guide to do that? 2020-07-01 08-15-20 PDT Rania Amina Yeps 2020-07-23 00-59-15 PDT Rania Amina May he contact you via email? 2020-07-01 08-17-19 PDT Rania Amina I hope too :")
But, i think he's very busy right now, as i know, he make a class of inkscape in his hometown 2020-07-23 02-21-04 PDT Rania Amina The case still increase, especially in up town area that far from city. Universities and school still inactive, but economical sector try to wake up and regrowing 2020-07-01 08-04-43 PDT Rania Amina Filename (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/BayBaoQWGGdbtPHEK/Filename) 2020-07-23 02-11-06 PDT Rania Amina Okay, thanks 2020-07-01 08-24-07 PDT Rania Amina I still have no idea, it will work or not, but most of indonesian prefer use live chat like telegram or facebook to ask, learn, and discussion. But i'll try to ask them 2020-07-23 02-26-33 PDT Rania Amina Let's hope it will end soon😆 2020-07-02 01-16-35 PDT Rania Amina https://youtu.be/Rtpy-25smv4
One of lightning talk about inkscape
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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 116 Messages, 2 Files, 639360 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: RdH & doctormo
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21
29 Apr '21
2020-09-30 03-07-22 PDT Martin Owens (from bryce) 2020-02-09 16-16-05 PST Martin Owens (because if it's in the general, the good news is that the vector lists aren't going to stop on this second round) 2020-08-15 13-56-30 PDT Martin Owens *or* 2020-02-09 16-22-17 PST Martin Owens My job is to try and rally those generic bugs more. Focus on those. Maren did a "production ready" walk through and found too many crashes, even in Linux. 2020-02-09 16-41-00 PST Martin Owens I suspect that might be the case. If it comes to never releasing a Mac "finished" release. We may have to contend with that. But at least users will be aware of the quality of the software and we can focus on further recruitment. 2020-02-09 16-21-23 PST Martin Owens Understood. We still have that plan for issuing a Mac 'pre-release' status release so we can get something out the door. 2020-09-30 03-07-16 PDT Martin Owens He's taken over secretarial duties. 2020-02-09 16-43-18 PST Martin Owens Proposed new about screen: 2020-10-10 15-27-09 PDT Martin Owens I think he's asking if you have a blog and documented how you did it. But I don't think you have this, so I would just answer him that you didn't document it. 2020-08-15 13-56-25 PDT Martin Owens Yes, doctormo(a)geek-2.com 2020-02-09 16-02-28 PST Martin Owens Sorry for the confusion, just my abundance of caution about throwing peopel a link they may not have been able to see. 2020-09-30 03-07-06 PDT Martin Owens He's not the leader by the way. 2020-02-09 16-41-47 PST Martin Owens I wonder if there's some tag we can use "inkscape 1.0ahh-it-burns" 2020-02-09 16-45-30 PST Martin Owens Actually can we design something into the Mac package installer (that folder image that's currently the beta/alpha image) that communicates "Look, this isn't going to be great" 2020-09-30 02-08-27 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for backing me up in the developer channel with ted. I am curious, what do you think is going on here (from what you can see) 2021-03-12 05-34-57 PST Martin Owens id_rsa.pub.txt (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/XWJZLoLePFyqzLMn8/id_rsa.pub.txt) 2021-03-12 05-35-07 PST Martin Owens Thanks René 2021-03-12 12-36-27 PST Martin Owens In body and mind, but my soul is somewhere else 2021-03-12 12-37-15 PST Martin Owens don 2021-03-12 12-37-16 PST Martin Owens e 2021-03-12 12-38-23 PST Martin Owens Success 2021-03-12 12-40-56 PST Martin Owens Connected 2021-03-12 12-42-07 PST Martin Owens Understood, I'll have a play with it, probably just install Inkscape binaries rather than compile things. 2021-03-12 12-42-18 PST Martin Owens (but maybe compile things if needed) 2021-03-12 12-42-22 PST Martin Owens Thank you so much 2021-03-12 12-48-22 PST Martin Owens Woot, got `Remmina` to log in without me having to boot up a separate ssh client. 2021-03-12 12-49-43 PST Martin Owens I used it to work on a Nasa project, got to keep all the export controlled files off my computer 2021-03-12 12-51-25 PST Martin Owens Same for them, you couldn't VNC to their machines without a dongle and a lot of passcodes. 2021-03-12 12-52-48 PST Martin Owens Yes 2021-03-12 12-53-30 PST Martin Owens Nah, had it installed already, just needed to remember where all the values go. 2021-03-26 16-30-53 PDT Martin Owens :thumbsup: 2021-04-17 06-31-59 PDT Martin Owens What do you think of this problem of endorsing or listing or etc, contributors? 2021-04-17 07-56-13 PDT Martin Owens Thanks René 2021-04-17 07-56-22 PDT Martin Owens (this is why you'd be good on the board :-D) 2021-04-17 08-07-57 PDT Martin Owens Perhaps we can save this for a meeting time, it's a good set of ideas which perhaps we need a breather before coming back. 2021-04-17 09-01-36 PDT Martin Owens Nah it's ok. I saw the smoldering embers sparking back into life. 2021-04-17 09-01-45 PDT Martin Owens Good to get your say out there. 2021-04-22 10-37-43 PDT Martin Owens Looks like `sirius` is down, so no windows for me today. Is is a temp machine? 2021-04-22 10-40-41 PDT Martin Owens Ah no problem. 2021-04-22 10-58-33 PDT Martin Owens I did get lots of use out of it, thank you! 2021-04-22 10-58-53 PDT Martin Owens Instead I will lean on windows users :-D 2020-02-09 16-21-36 PST Martin Owens Mac: IT ALMOST WORKS! 2020-09-30 03-08-47 PDT Martin Owens You'll find it funny but ted sees the board as NOT leaders. Doesn't want the board to be seen as leaders. I tried to explain that this isn't really possible, people will always see us as a leadership. 2020-08-15 13-57-13 PDT Martin Owens geek-2 for my friends :-D 2020-02-09 16-03-31 PST Martin Owens No problem. How goes the Mac release? 2020-02-09 16-43-41 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2020-02-09 19-43-01.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jXvd2beKuM62iZzC7/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-09-30 03-08-01 PDT Martin Owens Yes he is :-) one of the founders of Inkscape too, so people have been shy about asking hard questions. But honestly I'm kind of finished waiting. 2020-02-09 16-01-57 PST Martin Owens But I know the board project has got a lot of controls switched on about who can see what. 2020-09-30 03-17-48 PDT Martin Owens It's old fashioned. 2020-02-09 16-50-56 PST Martin Owens I agree. Knowing that open source projects are in trouble, could attract the right sort of pressure. 2020-02-09 16-01-32 PST Martin Owens Oh good. I don't think it is supposed to be private (you can't see any personal information in there can you) 2020-02-09 16-21-42 PST Martin Owens ;-) 2020-08-15 13-57-17 PDT Martin Owens (it's newer) 2020-09-30 03-08-57 PDT Martin Owens And my point is that we should start acting like it 2020-02-09 16-15-43 PST Martin Owens Mac specific issues or your general sense is that Inkscape itself has too many flaws? 2020-02-09 16-23-17 PST Martin Owens So after we've tackled the vector bug lists we'll probably put out a call to users to grind the app down in real world uses. I would include a Mac RC in that if possible. 2020-09-30 03-06-29 PDT René de Hesselle I can only guess that these are topics he isn't comfortable with and I understand now what you mean when you are saying you're feeling blocked (I've watched your video about funded development) at every turn. 2020-10-10 15-19-08 PDT René de Hesselle Thanks for the various mentions on Twitter. I don't want to make a fool of myself on Twitter by not having understood the conversation: is Bruno Winck's question "Did you share on the process, how you implemented it?" directed at me? Is he asking if my work is publicly available? 2020-09-30 03-02-42 PDT René de Hesselle I was boiling. I had to rewrite 5 times what I was going to say to take out the heat and anger. 2020-09-30 03-07-45 PDT René de Hesselle (It think of the board as leaders in a general way) 2020-02-09 16-01-49 PST René de Hesselle Ah, did I misunderstand that? 2020-09-30 03-17-17 PDT René de Hesselle This "incident" is now the second time (I haven't taken notes on what the first occasion was) that I thought to myself "open source but close minded". 2020-02-09 16-10-29 PST René de Hesselle There is a small light at the end of the tunnel as we maybe fixed one of the blockers, but it's not safe yet. A few people confirmed the fix but Thomas says he can still reproduce the issue. So here's to hoping.
But everything else is pretty much unchanged and I think there are still too many serious issues (ontop on anything that you guys are currently fixing / Vectors' blocker list). 2020-09-30 03-07-28 PDT René de Hesselle I meant that as in "member of the board" (he is on the board right?) 2020-08-15 13-56-47 PDT René de Hesselle I don't mind, which one do you prefer? 2020-02-09 16-46-37 PST René de Hesselle :laughing: Might actually be a very good idea to use that kind of humor together with a serious message about the state of things. 2020-02-09 16-42-33 PST René de Hesselle We might not like it if that happens (myself included), but it's about the message we want to send out. 2020-02-09 16-48-03 PST René de Hesselle I don't want to sound like a tele-marketer, but if we get that right, it'll create the right kind of buzz and attention we need 2020-09-30 03-05-26 PDT René de Hesselle And I still disagree. I know that there has to be some order in regards to meetings, but the way he communicated it... if he really feels/thinks this way, he is not qualified to take a leadership position. 2021-01-18 02-24-05 PST René de Hesselle [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=HfXf5NeDHZCoG3ETz) Sadly I can only pull off this magic trick once ;-) () 2021-01-18 02-29-38 PST René de Hesselle Ooops, this ended up here by mistake 2021-02-11 17-46-09 PST René de Hesselle I'm new to #general but I believe user "lulmamanxii" is begging to be silenced because of inappropriate language. Also check profile "F... yo b...". 2021-03-11 16-50-21 PST René de Hesselle Please send me a ssh public key to dehesselle(a)web.de as you will be using RDP over SSH. 2021-03-12 10-57-56 PST René de Hesselle You login will be ready in 2-3 hours. I'll message you here. 2021-03-12 12-36-08 PST René de Hesselle You here? 2021-03-12 12-36-46 PST René de Hesselle Add this to your `.ssh/config`:
```
Host sirius
HostName v2202010130414128487.supersrv.de
Port 57921
User doctormo
LocalForward 13389 localhost:3389
``` 2021-03-12 12-37-38 PST René de Hesselle if the pub key you gave me is a special one (i.e. not your default one, you need to add the private part as `IdentityFile`) 2021-03-12 12-37-46 PST René de Hesselle Ok try to `ssh sirius` 2021-03-12 12-38-40 PST René de Hesselle Nice. Now fire up your RDP client of choice and use `localhost:13389` to connect 2021-03-12 12-38-53 PST René de Hesselle Your Windows user is `doctormo` and password is `start123`. 2021-03-12 12-41-05 PST René de Hesselle You can do what you want, the server is up 24/7. In case you reboot, you need to contact me, as the machine does not boot up Windows by default. You can put programs and stuff on there as you like, keep it to drive `E:` . There's lot of space there.
I haven't made you admin, tell me if you need that. 2021-03-12 12-41-57 PST René de Hesselle There is already an msys2 installation there, but I suggest you make your own one on `E:` 2021-03-12 12-42-42 PST René de Hesselle It has 8 or 10 cores and 64 GiB RAM, so plenty of room to compile should that be required 2021-03-12 12-49-18 PST René de Hesselle It always amazes me who many screen sharing / remote support tools exist. This one is new to me. 2021-03-12 12-50-42 PST René de Hesselle I don't trust open RDP connections on a Windows machine, that's why I forced RDP to localhost and use SSH to tunnel to it 2021-03-12 12-52-35 PST René de Hesselle Wait, this is not a seperate thing, Remmina supports RDP over SSH out of the box? (I'm jsut reading the readme) 2021-03-12 12-52-53 PST René de Hesselle Wow thats awesome 2021-03-12 12-53-09 PST René de Hesselle I thought you installed "a Teamviewer" thing 2021-03-12 12-53-30 PST René de Hesselle I'll have to bookmark this! 2021-03-26 15-53-10 PDT René de Hesselle I'm a bit worried: https://gitlab.com/dl2m/inkscape/-/commit/e7b94b9baf94da98a8ee39fd6b90912a2… looks like spam to me, but from an account with maintainer privileges in our project? 2021-03-26 16-29-46 PDT René de Hesselle False alarm, I misunderstood "maintainer" 2021-04-17 06-32-30 PDT René de Hesselle I'm typing something in my vim which will make me unpopular, give me a sec 2021-04-17 07-22-10 PDT René de Hesselle Don't want to post this publicly yet, but this how I would suggest to go about it. 2021-04-17 07-22-19 PDT René de Hesselle As we are volunteer-driven and nobody can tell anybody what to work on, I see no difference between choosing my area of work of my own volition or being motivated by a donation to pick something to work on. The discussion "can an individual donation take something away from Inkscape that otherwise would have been more important to focus on" is and stays entirely theoretical as long as I am free to do what I want. I'm not even obligated to tell if I'm getting paid by someone or not. 2021-04-17 07-22-26 PDT René de Hesselle Best outcome is that Inkscape gains a cool feature that someone else paid for. Worst outcome is the feature does not get accepted by Inkscape official, but that is not and should not be made the projects' problem. (Every feature ever has always had the risk of not being accepted.) 2021-04-17 07-23-04 PDT René de Hesselle 1. Do we as a project want to advertise the fact that people can fund developers directly?
a. As we are still a decentralized project, the project cannot make guarantees for accepting things that people fund individual developers for. This is a risk that the funder and fundee need to talk about prior to their engagement and is their responsibility/liability alone. 2021-04-17 07-23-15 PDT René de Hesselle 2. In order to give it a test run, restrict the possibility to get listed on our page to people who are already contributors so we only have to deal with "known faces" instead of unknowns during the testing phase. 2021-04-17 07-23-24 PDT René de Hesselle (the end) 2021-04-17 07-56-44 PDT René de Hesselle If you think it has the right tone, I'll post it into vectors channel 2021-04-17 08-57-24 PDT René de Hesselle oops, I should've read your reply first. I've just recycled parts of that in a post. 2021-04-22 10-49-48 PDT René de Hesselle (it won't be up 24/7 but it also will not be decommissioned three weeks later ;-) ) 2021-04-22 10-39-20 PDT René de Hesselle I need to look into the history... somewhere I said how long this machine is paid for, give me a sec 2021-04-22 10-40-26 PDT René de Hesselle It was decomissioned end of March 2021-04-22 10-41-18 PDT René de Hesselle I cannot find it here, I believe if we scroll up in the devel channel (I believe it was there where you were looking for something with Windows) we find it there 2021-04-22 10-41-53 PDT René de Hesselle Sorry. I hope you still got some use out of it 2021-04-22 10-42-45 PDT René de Hesselle I can only offer Teamviewer access to Laptop that I don't use regularly, if that helps 2020-09-30 03-11-41 PDT René de Hesselle I find that indeed funny as I would not have expected that. 2020-02-09 16-22-13 PST René de Hesselle That'll do ;-) 2020-02-09 16-42-39 PST René de Hesselle Haha I like the idea about that tag 2020-02-09 16-01-01 PST René de Hesselle (I didn't read it.) 2020-02-09 16-00-54 PST René de Hesselle I can see this issue you linked to in the dev channel and I'm under the impression it's supposed to be private. 2020-02-09 16-03-06 PST René de Hesselle Don't worry. Better safe than sorry. Sorry for the noise! 2020-08-15 13-56-08 PDT René de Hesselle Did I get that right? `doctormo(a)gmail.com`? 2020-02-09 16-01-03 PST René de Hesselle Just to let you know. 2020-02-09 16-39-30 PST René de Hesselle I think I won't block an RC even I think it's too premature to call it that.
Once the time comes to lose the "beta"/"rc"/... labels altogether, at least for the other platforms, that'll be another story. 2020-02-09 16-20-03 PST René de Hesselle macOS specific ones. TBH I'm not really up-to-date on the general quality of the rest, maybe with the exception of the degradation in overall performance. But I'm also not really worried about the other issues because they get more or less the whole team behind them to hunt them down.
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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 192 Messages, 10 Files, 455700 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: datalot & doctormo
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21
29 Apr '21
2020-09-18 13-56-19 PDT Martin Owens If you're on twitter, consider hearting my update tweet? https://twitter.com/realdoctormo/status/1307053699450179585 :-D 2020-09-18 10-15-35 PDT Martin Owens OK, you want to share you screen? 2020-09-13 03-50-16 PDT Martin Owens I've been gifted many opportunities to correct my behaviour and I think about how my passion can spill into being bossy often. Trying to remember those times I didn't get it right. 2020-09-13 03-48-46 PDT Martin Owens So the first thing; we have a procedure for dealing with code of conduct violations https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ The guide is there so anyone can feel confident identifying the problematic behaviour and raising the issue in a way that will get attention. 2020-09-13 03-47-13 PDT Martin Owens Morning datalot 2020-07-10 19-30-39 PDT Martin Owens :trophy: 2020-09-18 10-44-10 PDT Martin Owens No se algo! 2020-07-23 14-54-19 PDT Martin Owens I can give you a mentorship if you want. 2020-09-18 10-47-46 PDT Martin Owens Type this, while I answer your question 2020-06-16 10-33-30 PDT Martin Owens With yad I get questions, but shell and backtrace still cause errors. 2020-09-18 10-42-45 PDT Martin Owens Hmm, not sure what tool that is or how to use it 2020-07-10 19-12-44 PDT Martin Owens Firstly, can you even find the link ;-) 2020-07-10 19-21-45 PDT Martin Owens Thank you for testing with me. 2020-09-19 03-00-02 PDT Martin Owens Interesting! English got rid of most of it's grammar suffixes between old and middle English. Some still hang around, apparently we have hundreds still though. The fight between Dutch and French continues! 2020-09-18 10-18-07 PDT Martin Owens I see 2020-09-18 11-16-46 PDT Martin Owens So you can upload a new branch to your fork and ask for merge of just this one branch. 2020-09-20 02-27-11 PDT Martin Owens Er, Danish not Dutch. Clearly getting forgetful! 2020-09-18 10-43-46 PDT Martin Owens Hmmm 2020-07-10 19-17-30 PDT Martin Owens (do you think people will need instructions for the joining process?) 2020-09-18 10-43-41 PDT Martin Owens Or maybe it is just one commit 2020-09-18 11-44-54 PDT Martin Owens You must be learning a lot of about Git and GitLab :-D 2020-07-10 19-11-47 PDT Martin Owens I need a tester for the video, are you available? 2020-09-18 10-10-38 PDT Martin Owens Your merge request is corrupted. 2020-10-17 00-12-01 PDT Martin Owens Mostly, I'm looking for funding. Serious funding. 2020-10-15 11-47-13 PDT Martin Owens The question is; how do you broach the subject: you are doing a bad job, please step down so others can have a go. 2020-06-16 10-32-09 PDT Martin Owens Ubuntu 20.04 2020-09-18 11-11-52 PDT Martin Owens Should be same address though? 2020-07-10 19-15-46 PDT Martin Owens I can see your name 2020-07-10 19-12-25 PDT Martin Owens From this news article: https://inkscape.org/news/2020/07/07/inkscapes-summer-hackfest-2020-online/ 2020-09-21 03-04-00 PDT Martin Owens Sorry if I've been more of a nuisance than a help. 2020-09-18 13-04-42 PDT Martin Owens Don't worry, that happens to all outside jobs 2020-07-10 19-23-43 PDT Martin Owens Thank you for testing 2020-09-18 10-10-51 PDT Martin Owens Possibly because master has moved under it and no longer applies 2020-09-18 10-47-53 PDT Martin Owens I use git on the command line 2020-07-10 19-27-14 PDT Martin Owens Is that audio quality any better your end 2020-07-10 19-19-11 PDT Martin Owens Can you see the prentation or hear me yet? 2020-07-10 19-16-39 PDT Martin Owens OK from here, click the listen only (or microphone if you want to talk) 2020-07-23 15-55-22 PDT Martin Owens I want to make sure you can get the high bandwidth you need. 2020-07-10 19-25-52 PDT Martin Owens Is it as jagged as yours was to me? 2020-09-18 10-51-08 PDT Martin Owens I will buy cake 2020-10-15 06-50-52 PDT Martin Owens None, the board isn't in agreement and has structural issues which prevent us from acting correctly. 2020-09-18 10-43-21 PDT Martin Owens But it looks like it's off because it contains more than just your single commit. 2020-07-10 19-22-46 PDT Martin Owens If I move it to the second slide, you can see that 2020-06-16 10-35-25 PDT Martin Owens lol 2020-07-10 19-21-54 PDT Martin Owens Could you see me moving the video around? 2020-09-18 10-47-30 PDT Martin Owens `git remote -v` 2020-09-18 10-18-21 PDT Martin Owens You will have to tell me what you see, or ask questions for me to answer. 2020-10-15 12-09-24 PDT Martin Owens Great, make sure you're in the AUTHORS file, so if there' a vote for new board members you'll be able to have a voice. 2020-09-18 10-48-16 PDT Martin Owens `git push` 2020-06-16 10-36-17 PDT Martin Owens I don't work from my installed inkscape, I have inkscape-dev which is that. 2020-10-15 11-46-47 PDT Martin Owens Not a fork, but there's some serious bullshit going down and honestly I have no intention of provoking bad blood, but I am not happy and so are other board members. 2020-09-18 13-58-44 PDT Martin Owens I invent English because I am English :-P 2020-09-18 10-09-36 PDT Martin Owens Gracias 2020-09-15 08-01-49 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for bringing this to me, I think we've managed to clear the air. 2020-09-13 03-49-10 PDT Martin Owens The first goal is of course always to correct behaviours when we see them. 2020-07-10 19-23-54 PDT Martin Owens No, you are are muted 2020-09-18 10-12-12 PDT Martin Owens And we'll close this existing one with a link to the new one. 2020-07-10 19-24-37 PDT Martin Owens Thank you. Do you have any suggestions? 2020-09-18 13-59-38 PDT Martin Owens And I ken the nouse of orit yore and hither. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: 2020-09-18 11-16-53 PDT Martin Owens A fork and a branch are not the same thing. 2020-07-10 19-29-47 PDT Martin Owens Perfecto! thank you 2020-09-18 13-05-09 PDT Martin Owens I merged it 2020-06-16 10-33-43 PDT Martin Owens and run 2020-07-10 19-29-08 PDT Martin Owens If you talk briefly I'll get two data points 2020-09-18 11-04-50 PDT Martin Owens No cake, but muffin with cake sugar 2020-09-18 11-06-10 PDT Martin Owens `git push --set-upstream origin markers-colors` 2020-09-18 11-06-27 PDT Martin Owens I'm having Devon Custard with my "cake" 2020-06-16 10-30-36 PDT Martin Owens ```Reading symbols from inkscape...
(No debugging symbols found in inkscape)
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Ready for the action!
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[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
``` 2020-09-18 13-55-51 PDT Martin Owens You are very welcome! 2020-09-18 11-32-46 PDT Martin Owens :blowfish: yikes 2020-09-18 11-17-06 PDT Martin Owens (Fork is a bad name, it should be un arbol) 2020-09-18 11-16-32 PDT Martin Owens That is fine, your fork has many "branches" 2020-07-10 19-21-41 PDT Martin Owens Let me write things down 2020-09-18 11-05-14 PDT Martin Owens `git remote remove origin` 2020-07-10 19-15-03 PDT Martin Owens Yes, what happens when you type your name in and join? 2020-10-15 11-49-59 PDT Martin Owens I don't understand Adam's point, can you explain it? 2020-09-18 10-49-54 PDT Martin Owens `git push --set-upstream origin markers-colors` 2020-09-18 11-04-37 PDT Martin Owens Back 2020-09-21 03-03-19 PDT Martin Owens I don't see anything wrong with what either person wrong. At least from a purely fresh perspective. 2020-09-13 03-49-29 PDT Martin Owens So people who may not be aware of how toxic they are being can correct themselves. 2020-07-10 19-15-07 PDT Martin Owens (if you can) 2020-09-18 10-11-53 PDT Martin Owens Create a new patch with the clean fix on top of the current master and I will merge it right away. 2020-09-18 11-32-53 PDT Martin Owens I suppose it doesn't matter, just push to it 2020-07-10 19-22-14 PDT Martin Owens Can you see the presentation pdf? 2020-09-18 10-48-10 PDT Martin Owens Do you have Inkscape commit access? 2020-10-15 11-53-26 PDT Martin Owens That's certainly not my method of working. 2020-10-15 12-08-33 PDT Martin Owens Have you had any commits into the main repository yet? 2020-06-16 10-35-52 PDT Martin Owens I don't have a crash to replicate atm 2020-07-10 19-25-58 PDT Martin Owens Yes, I had the same issue 2020-06-16 10-31-02 PDT Martin Owens Linux version will likely need it's own binary. 2020-09-15 02-26-35 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for sharing 2020-09-18 11-05-39 PDT Martin Owens `git remote add origin https://gitlab.com/datalot/inkscape.git` 2020-07-23 15-13-01 PDT Martin Owens I will make myself available to you, although of course I can't guarantee every day. Are you ok with video chats for demostrations etc? 2020-07-10 19-25-14 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Can you lower the audio quality? 2020-09-18 11-13-06 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=gANcY9ABzqFLFqL6M) Yes, but my *current* fork had undefined troubles on mirroring and who knows what more.
Months outdated. () 2020-07-10 19-30-33 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez All right. 2020-10-15 11-52-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It's about all the project, not only the source. 2020-09-18 12-59-45 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :disappointed_relieved: 2020-06-16 10-37-08 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Even you can make it work with other apps like GIMP. 2020-09-18 11-33-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Well... 2020-09-18 11-27-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I don't understand, my new fork is void. 2020-10-15 11-52-24 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez If there are 99 opinions in favor, 1 against can stop the work. It's like a overthinking of the situation... Like the imposibility to revert the changes... I mean... You all can try. If it doesn't work just revert the changes, but if you never try it will be like just getting worse. 2020-10-15 14-05-19 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Thank you very much! 2020-07-10 19-19-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I can hear you. 2020-07-10 19-25-37 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I don't know if it's my Internet connection, but your audio sound a little bit... 2020-09-18 10-09-09 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Oh... And _buen provecho_. 2020-07-10 19-14-37 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:14 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/2aSwLvboBoZXT3rt7/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-06-16 10-35-31 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :) 2020-09-18 10-47-59 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez origin https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape.git (fetch)
origin https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape.git (push) 2020-09-18 10-51-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez remote: You are not allowed to push code to this project.
fatal: unable to access 'https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape.git/': The requested URL returned error: 403 2020-09-18 10-52-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=mrT3to4vSs9dSXW3Q) No problem.
Enjoy it! () 2020-06-16 10-34-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez That is what should happen. 2020-07-10 19-30-28 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:30 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/sGqYyusLGhJ68pAv2/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-09-18 10-39-40 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Now something comes to my mind:
That is the Inkscape repository in my local, not a local-clone of a fork of Inkscape in GitLab.
So my question is to make the Merge Request. 2020-09-18 10-50-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It requests me my GitLab credentials.
Wait while I search them. 2020-06-16 10-31-17 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :frowning: 2020-09-18 10-19-03 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez No problem on it.
Really thanks you.
Now I will start... 2020-07-10 19-15-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It's loading... 2020-06-16 06-03-47 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez But the point is: The user just need a Right-Click on the desktop entry to run a debuging Inkscape. 2020-06-16 10-32-40 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez All others will ever appear. 2020-09-18 11-45-16 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=cbtHoHC4RuusZjuxo) jsjsjsjs The truth!!! () 2020-09-18 10-49-44 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez fatal: The current branch markers-colors has no upstream branch.
To push the current branch and set the remote as upstream, use
git push --set-upstream origin markers-colors
2020-07-10 19-22-27 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I can see you without issues. 2020-09-14 21-36-54 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=wzmttScX3SJxc2SWh) [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=wzmttScX3SJxc2SWh) In this sense... This happened for the first time a few hours ago:
I have no idea what just happened.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ux/-/issues/38#note_412605900
I will just take a deep breath and consider that, as a programmer, he needs a little time.
PD: I have never had any kind of discussion with this user. () 2020-09-18 11-44-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I remade the fork and it was successful. 2020-07-23 15-09-30 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Well. I think we could start tomorrow. 2020-09-18 14-28-31 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez In the last few months, Spanish parlants have been copying a English thing and is becoming more and more a trend.
In English there is not something that really differ a verb from an adjetive, "branch", for example, is "rama", but while in Inglish you can say "Branch it", in Spanish this isn't even traducible... Maybe "Enrámalo", but it sounds really marginal aslñfkdjañklsjflñaksgj.
The truth is that currently the meaning of "dinner" (cena) strongly changes when you say "dinnering" (cenando) in a phrase in which that's not the present. You can say "The dinnering" (La cenación), we can't. It's so understandable because our language is extremely flexible, but we can't do something like that. The English translation in something like "Dinnertion".
So currently a lot of non-existent "action-or-effect-of" words are coming out this way: "Eation" (Comisión) (from Eating), "Sleeption" (Durmición) (from Sleeping), "Listention" (of listenning). 2020-09-20 18-19-29 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I didn't understand anyway :disappointed_relieved: :joy: 2020-07-10 19-22-08 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes. 2020-10-15 11-55-05 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=WGJnfJrv9D6DL8kkj) I know it. And I have the supisius Mc and Tav go similar ways, but with something stopping them for doing some things.
I mean... It appears like you are the only person who "knows" that GitLab has Thumbs Up/Down. () 2020-06-16 06-00-20 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/nathanal?msg=MzZakCPc3t3jDfL42 () 2020-06-16 10-26-54 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/nathanal?msg=8d5GyyMfjEMPkGT72 () 2020-06-16 10-35-41 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What happened? 2020-06-16 10-38-34 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez it should be `gdb pathToAppImage -q -x ~/.config/inkscape/debug.sh` 2020-09-14 21-34-30 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez To be confident, I have asked almost all to Nathal because I feel you are "strong" or "empowered" - Do you understand me? 2020-10-15 05-31-12 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What steps has follow the board on Inkscape-Centralized Development? 2020-09-18 10-36-56 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 1:36 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Bbyv6s2WQSjKSXz96/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-06-16 06-02-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I had prepared it thanks to the @nathanal help. 2020-07-23 14-53-19 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Sorry for the noob question but what do you consider I need to learn Glade for Inkscape.
All I know is that is like an interactive mockup generator, but I would like to know if for your ux#17 request I need to know about C, C++, Python and the Inkscape code/API also. Whatever highlight you could give me I will be grateful. Maybe I will not who make that baing there are a lot of trained developers around, but I would like to start understanding the "`x::y`" meaning you all developers speak about.
I'm fully interested in making any well-received GUI changes (things like adjusting alignments or changing one color)... I really would like to learn to code with Inkscape.
Thank you. 2020-09-18 11-45-09 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 2:45 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/GRpCTPEhxorXt7wWa/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-06-16 10-36-00 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :( 2020-07-10 19-22-54 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes. 2020-09-14 21-33-49 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=3h9BpKi4zGL3GuSwg) In your case I can't say too much. You are one super politically correct person, and for me, you don't need to change. You are very clear when you speak. I love you and Nathal <3 xd () 2020-09-18 11-04-49 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Wow that was so quick. 2020-07-10 19-23-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Can you hear me? 2020-07-10 19-23-05 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:22 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/7uQWSuWNkXZwm6NHQ/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-09-14 21-34-42 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Like fear. 2020-10-16 20-13-35 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Basically I have a complex idea of how an _Illustrator Shape Builder Tool_ could be an "Inkscape Void Assembler LPE". 2020-09-18 11-27-29 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 2:27 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/iJ5C8fewzCMawyNZZ/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-10-15 11-14-35 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Do you see a fork in the future or the insatisfaction level isn't big enough? 2020-06-16 10-26-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Pls try it. 2020-06-16 06-01-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What I showed you in the gif is a desktop entry that handles with quickly getting the backtraces. It's a mixed script of -x and shell. It allows you to clear old logs and avoid things that -x cannot handle.
For example: All commands after `backtrace full` are ignored if there are no backtraces (error of no stack), even "quit", so if you close Inkscape as usual with `Terminal=true` in the desktop entry, the terminal fails on close dropping you on the gdb prompt.
It also makes the separated Inkscape and Backtrace reports in the user folder and shows you when Inkscape exits correctly or crashing, allowing you to delete the "All right" reports at the end.
I think I will expand the shell script to handle little configurations on its own file.
The manner of use this is just with two fixed scripts in a folder, and executing `gcd inkscapePath -q -x instructionsPath`. 2020-09-18 10-14-44 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I want to try making this process from my local git-clone repository and trought terminal now.
After making the the changes, hope you guide me in the push, I don't knwo how do it right now. 2020-09-18 12-59-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez At:
[ 56%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/inkscape_base.dir/ui/dialog-events.cpp.o 2020-06-16 10-36-53 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez In the Inkscape entry you can use whatever Inkscape binaries you have in you system. 2020-07-10 19-22-34 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Also the presentation. 2020-09-18 10-08-51 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I have edited the file in GitLab and I have made that MR.
Now I don't know if I need to wait or what.
I'm learning the path to make commits to Inkscape.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2320/ 2020-09-14 21-35-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez But in the time I have noted you are just a full-of-work person that should ever treat all as neutral because of your positions and responsibilities with the project. 2020-07-10 19-12-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What video? Just send me the instructions. 2020-06-16 10-34-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Now, if you have a replicable crash, do it. 2020-09-18 12-59-20 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ERROR: Job failed: execution took longer than 1h0m0s seconds 2020-10-15 11-49-28 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I agree with Adam's opinion about the overestimation of democracy. I see how Inkscape is "scared for changes"... or at least it appears to be like that. 2020-09-19 20-01-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Dutch and French battle? :thinking: 2020-06-16 06-01-23 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I don't know why the GIF it's to laggy. 2020-10-16 20-08-02 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Hello! — Maybe I will write this for Jabier also but I want to know your perspective:
1. What would provoke you getting alive someone's feature?
2. If I explain to you in detail not only what would be the final result, but also how it should work translating the "possible code" to human language (an in-deep explanation of the functioning, I don't know how to code exactly), would it help in provoking you to realize it or "whatever you say, anyway its out-of-my-interests"?
3. What would STOP you from getting a feature with this kind of development alive? 2020-07-10 19-27-04 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ? 2020-09-18 13-49-00 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Thank you very much for guiding me in this process. Your help is invaluable. 2020-09-12 18-34-34 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Hello Nathan! - I want to make a close question to you... I will also ask it to Doctormo in private chat...
Do you think there are toxic people in the Inkscape development team?
I speak about the people that are almost everywhere in the Inkscape project... Starting by people like Myself, Graytomorrow, Teen, or even you (PD: You are incredibly untoxic, you are the milk for the poisoning)...
The point is I can't believe how little comments (maybe just two words in a paragraph of hundred) can be super shocking for people with great intentions, and I would like this type of behaviors be identified to be eradicated.
Maybe I'm being too sentimental or sensitive, but the truth is that I can note very unpolitical speaking around some Inkscape's people. 2020-09-18 10-49-26 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=Tv9trPx3PmTH9bFMY) No idea. I suppose I haven't. If I remember, somewhere I have read that we need to do two pushes in order to be accepted and have access. () 2020-07-10 19-21-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I can't understand you totally while speaking, so please write me the important things and questions. I'm not English native. 2020-09-18 12-00-30 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2326 2020-09-18 13-57-50 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Well... Is the first time I read the "hearting" therm. I will "heart you" now. :joy: 2020-09-18 11-26-01 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=impZ4MZLEypkNEoat) Nonono I'm speaking about literally a fork.
My own repository of Inkscape allocated on GitLab.
That repository had months outdated and was full of strange issues mirroring from https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape.
So it appears my on-GitLab "edit" of my Merge Request was the cause of the corruption. Because my fork's master was corrupted, as you have described in the quote.
I mean, to make that change I went to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/blob/master/src/ui/widget/marker-com… and pressed "Edit", what says:_ A new branch will be created in your fork and a new merge request will be started. _
So that new branch in my GitLab's fork was moths (around two) outdated. () 2020-09-18 10-17-13 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Currently not possible.
It's a `hardware + heat + infrastructure` trouble. 2020-10-15 12-08-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez 3 commits. 2020-06-16 10-32-21 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez You just need to install 'yad'. 2020-09-18 13-48-23 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 4:47 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DbYMp8skPoQTD3EGa/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-09-18 11-44-55 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 2:44 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/7yGduZkkKv5284nKh/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-09-18 13-56-53 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez "realdoctormo" ñasldfjkqfiopasflñkaglñjks 2020-07-10 19-18-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Instructions can be a one-line list. So being it's really obvious... I think no. 2020-09-18 10-46-08 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 1:45 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/gbrhxwwJfrTAs8teK/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-06-16 10-33-18 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I will to integrate a module for dependencies that should be shown when the user doesn't fit it. 2020-07-23 15-21-56 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez As expected obvious. You are a human with life. Honestly I don't understand how you maintain your omnipresence around the project 24/7 without being burned.
About video chats... Hm... It could be difficult considering the current language barrier and the technical environment here, but I should learn it too. In the ultimate circumstances, voice notes could leave me to try and try without fatiguing you at all. 2020-07-10 19-24-55 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes... 2020-09-18 10-44-12 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It's just the Sublime Merge.
Ignore it,
The console is also usable. 2020-09-18 11-11-01 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=7gqRyT4mPEtAbG9rS) To avoid issues, I removed my actual Inkscape's GitLab fork.
I'm reforking on GitLab before this command. () 2020-06-16 10-37-25 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Try to Ctrl + O in master AppImage 2020-09-18 10-46-41 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What tool do you use to code Inkscape?
Your tool differs from other programmers? 2020-07-10 19-25-53 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez choppy 2020-06-16 06-00-19 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Maybe something like this? 2020-07-10 19-16-15 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:15 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/NzrBSfdGbGReQhKu6/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-06-16 10-34-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes.
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2019-07-01 12-00-25 PDT Martin Owens Hi there. First take a look at the gitlab bug tracker. We need more developers working on fixing crashes and other release blocking bugs. 2019-07-01 12-01-23 PDT Martin Owens There's two bits, the inbox is a list of submitted bugs that are unsorted so might need some triage and then inkscape bug tracker which has all the sorted bugs. 2019-07-01 11-53-43 PDT Andrew Spada Hey there. It's Andrew Spada, we emailed a bit before. sorry for not reaching out sooner, I spent some days working my way through getting inkscape to compile, then had some family/vacation stuff to attend. anyway, how might i get started helping out around here?
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2019-01-18 07-11-33 PST Martin Owens So the channel we should work from is #mac-dev 2019-01-18 07-09-58 PST Martin Owens Hi 2019-01-18 07-10-07 PST Forrest Hartley Hey :)
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2020-10-19 09-15-19 PDT Martin Owens I'm also raising money to continue the work on the connector tool and I'm looking for sponsors. If you are interested or know people who are, please do get them in touch. 2020-10-19 09-14-42 PDT Martin Owens This is the svg file: https://inkscape.org/~doctormo/%E2%98%85symbols-creator 2020-10-20 08-53-34 PDT Martin Owens What operating system are you using? You can always use the portable Inkscape instead of a VM 2020-10-19 09-28-29 PDT Martin Owens OK I will! 2020-10-20 08-40-03 PDT Martin Owens Is this with 1.1 or 1.0.1? 2020-10-06 04-10-02 PDT Martin Owens Great, so you are the copyright holder and you should decide on the right license. I would recommend a Public Domain or CC0 license to allow others to use your symbol drawings without restrictions. 2020-10-19 09-11-50 PDT Martin Owens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNykzg4Mxwo 2020-10-19 09-11-50 PDT Martin Owens I made this video 2020-10-20 09-00-05 PDT Martin Owens Markers is still broken, line width seems correct. Don't forget the shapes created are Clones, not copies, so resizing should be avoided. 2020-10-06 04-07-29 PDT Martin Owens I am a good person to ask. 2020-10-06 04-23-07 PDT Martin Owens OK. Let me know in #team_devel because I don't want to forget your work. You can also create an issue in https://inkscape.org/report to make sure your work is added 2020-10-06 04-16-00 PDT Martin Owens What operating system are you working on? 2020-10-20 08-41-21 PDT Martin Owens I don't know, but if I test now then I can figure it out. 2020-10-19 09-30-16 PDT Martin Owens Screenshot from 2020-10-19 12-29-51.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/LDcWE38BPB3SMCetc/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-10-06 04-11-50 PDT Martin Owens See this for interesting future: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1994 2020-10-19 09-18-21 PDT Martin Owens This only deals with subpoints, and is only useful if you are using the 1.1 development version. 2020-10-06 04-08-31 PDT Martin Owens Additional: have the symbols been tested with the latest unstable version which inclues the multi-connector-point functionality? 2020-10-06 04-07-36 PDT Martin Owens What license are the symbols under? 2020-10-19 09-30-26 PDT Martin Owens Is this correct,only these symbols? 2020-10-20 08-56-44 PDT Martin Owens You should download the AppImage version, you can set the execute bit and just execute it as a program (a self contained program) 2020-10-20 08-49-16 PDT Doenermann okay, thanks a lot. If I have some time tomorrow i will install an virtual machine with the latest inkscape to test this. Don't want my working system with software out of official sources, because it is for work. 2020-10-06 04-15-13 PDT Doenermann okay, that sounds good. Maybe i will wait till this is included in the next official build of inkscape, so i will not get in trouble by installing software on the system that is not under the packet manager control. After testing this, I can try to spend the symbols to Inkscape. Do I need to change the repository of the symbol set to the inkscape-repository? 2020-10-19 23-41-33 PDT Doenermann These are all symbols: 2020-10-20 08-40-33 PDT Doenermann Clipboard - 20. Oktober 2020 17:40 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/bum7dc5eAFvFBh4y9/Clipboard%20-%2020.…) 2020-10-20 08-38-51 PDT Doenermann Dear doctormo, i had some free minutes today, so i tried out to test the symbols function again. But i had the same trouble as last time. When pulling the objects to the symbols and push them back to a new inkscape sheet, the original size is not there. Some elements are missing (like arrows) and resizing the elements is also not working even with disabled scaling contour. 2020-10-06 04-16-47 PDT Doenermann Manjaro Linux 2020-10-20 08-40-36 PDT Doenermann 1.0.1 2020-10-19 09-24-12 PDT Doenermann So I will wait for having the official 1.1 release, think this is the easiest way. May I will upload them to the user-gallery before. But may you can review them? I don't know if I have done everything right or if something basic is still missing. 2020-10-20 08-57-25 PDT Doenermann okay, I will try this next, thanks a lot 2020-10-19 09-10-14 PDT Doenermann Dear Doctormo, as talked a few days before, I added CC0 license to the symbol set. https://github.com/upb-lea/Inkscape_electric_Symbols Before set this figures to channel #team_devel or to a git-issue, may you can review these symbols by trying out? May I need to make real symbols out of them, but in the past I had some problems with that. Please let me know some details. May we can also have a phone call (we have an own jitsi-server). What is your time zone? Mine is UTC+2 2020-10-20 08-40-44 PDT Doenermann Is this fixed in 1.1.0? 2020-10-06 04-11-17 PDT Doenermann Yes, So I can set them to CC0, i will do that 2020-10-06 04-09-12 PDT Doenermann I draw these by myself. All Symbols can also be found in ISO60617 standard (for electrical drawings). Lot of programs (like microsoft visio) also use this symbol set. 2020-10-06 04-10-43 PDT Doenermann No, the symbols are not drawn in the latest unstable. This is version 1.0.1 (2020-09-07) running on manjaro linux (from manjaro software sources). 2020-10-20 08-53-57 PDT Doenermann ah, this sounds good. it is Manjaro Linux. 2020-10-19 23-41-17 PDT Doenermann I did not mount them into the symbolsmenu due to I had some problems with that in the past. So they are just in the file. So I will try to put them again in the symbols menu 2020-10-19 23-41-35 PDT Doenermann Clipboard - 20. Oktober 2020 08:41 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/R4FvEBaTo2uz3bzkJ/Clipboard%20-%2020.…) 2020-10-06 04-07-06 PDT Doenermann Dear doctormo, for electric symbols, we developed a symbol set, that is not default available in inkscape. Is it possible to integrate this symbols in the inkscape program? Whom can I turn to ask? https://github.com/upb-lea/Inkscape_electric_Symbols Is this a good idea? what do you think? 2020-10-19 09-24-40 PDT Doenermann I have not used inkscape for that long. 2020-10-19 09-17-40 PDT Doenermann okay, thanks for this information, I will try to try out again. When making some symbols in the past, I had some trouble with the size when I set the symbols to the sheet. I will check this out. 2020-10-20 08-38-54 PDT Doenermann Clipboard - 20. Oktober 2020 17:38 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jJ8raspHkBKJJEsLR/Clipboard%20-%2020.…)
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2020-08-02 14-30-13 PDT Martin Owens But there are likely tasks i cant see too. People with gcode interest seem to be on the forums and twitter. 2020-08-01 08-24-28 PDT Martin Owens We don't know. There aren't any maintainers for gcode extensions currently. So the best answer is: not without volunteers. 2020-08-01 08-19-30 PDT Martin Owens You're welcome! 2020-08-01 08-32-07 PDT Martin Owens I think it needs recruiting, basically people who are interested being active and trying to encourage all gcode people to come together. 2020-08-02 14-29-34 PDT Martin Owens The first task is self certification. You say to yourself "I am in charge of this" and then you set about using your new authority to find other people and talk to them and see what resources are available. I know a few tasks that are needed: a. Refactoring the code b. Writing many more test cases 2020-08-01 08-23-49 PDT warren do you think that inkscape will in the future be able able to generate code that includes depth of cuts 2020-08-01 08-19-15 PDT warren thank you DOCTORMO the earler version that you sugested 2020-08-01 08-20-25 PDT warren worked fine I am now able to create gcode with this verson. 2020-08-02 06-58-27 PDT warren doctormo I think that understand , but how do you do that. 2020-08-01 08-26-23 PDT warren thanks , I would volunteer but I am a baby at codeing.
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2020-10-10 05-13-24 PDT Martin Owens Don't worry about speed, my week has been chainsaw brutal and these things come and go all the time to pull us away from things. 2020-01-24 15-37-06 PST Martin Owens That sounds great. Sorry to hear of poor heath, keep yourself well. Anyone who can be hooked up to the vectors team will strengthen connections, but health comes first. 2020-10-10 12-14-30 PDT Martin Owens Excellent! I'm not a comedian so I had no idea if it would hit or miss :-D 2020-10-10 12-00-12 PDT Martin Owens Check out my video editing in OpenShot today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF8FdQBK17Q 2020-11-28 10-04-50 PST Martin Owens Oh good! This be the winter of our country's discontent, but I'm rooting for you all. 2020-12-18 13-10-36 PST Martin Owens This is a draft of my video: https://youtu.be/qQaeoN_yzto early access ;-) I think the music is too loud at the moment. 2020-12-13 13-55-28 PST Martin Owens I've done a lot of tracings and collabrative works, so not everything is wholy my own works. Ubunchu stuff is mostly collab for example. 2020-11-28 10-05-00 PST Martin Owens Thanks for the video love, I think I'm getting better at them. 2020-12-18 09-34-41 PST Martin Owens (the snow is about half a meter, 2 foot) 2020-11-28 14-10-48 PST Martin Owens Certainly not. Was it broken in 1.0? 2020-12-13 13-52-41 PST Martin Owens Lovely stuff, I got a tree all set up and I'm planning on using it as a background for next week's patreon video. So I can use it for this too 2020-12-20 10-25-49 PST Martin Owens Ah and then patch it in? 2021-02-13 05-18-00 PST Martin Owens Although I'd be happy to make a list and we could comittee the hell out of it ;-) 2020-11-28 14-08-01 PST Martin Owens That's a good candidate for a fix 2020-12-13 14-11-06 PST Martin Owens Can I quickly show you something cool? 2021-02-13 05-17-46 PST Martin Owens When I do the welcome screen, I need one which is "welcoming" (and I need to refactor the text for that one too) and one for the contribute to us screen. So each use tries hard to fit into the context. 2021-02-13 05-16-46 PST Martin Owens Well, It's not about "best", I always try and reuse pieces based on their artistic context. For example using the space ones for the "Explore Features" and the more sketchy ones for the developer builds. 2020-12-13 14-03-34 PST Martin Owens Ignore the political ones ;-) 2020-12-13 14-02-07 PST Martin Owens There's a lot of inkscape screenshots and animated gifs in https://twitter.com/realdoctormo/media which might be interesting to show. 2020-11-28 10-31-03 PST Martin Owens :-D Interesting 2020-10-10 05-12-44 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Tim, how you doing sir? 2020-12-18 09-42-04 PST Martin Owens It's a very interesting economic model. Because the transaction is about the future, not the past. 2020-10-10 09-01-54 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Tim downloading now 2020-12-20 10-01-59 PST Martin Owens I'm here, an hour early, let me know when you'd like to start 2020-10-12 15-39-06 PDT Martin Owens Nice work 2020-12-18 09-38-41 PST Martin Owens Yeah, it's a whole world in and of itself 2021-02-13 04-32-46 PST Martin Owens When the compo is over, I might ask for someone to take over the duty of picking out the front graphics. The first one will be known (the winner) but the other three are all interesting picks. 2020-11-28 13-53-47 PST Martin Owens Nah it's badbly formatted page tbh 2020-12-13 13-57-47 PST Martin Owens If you want to make a great big barcode, I made that extension, it's one of the first things I did for Inkscape: https://inkscape.org/~doctormo/%E2%98%85barcode-extension-from-inkscape-092 2020-11-28 10-03-02 PST Martin Owens No, let's wait for my turn 2020-12-13 13-58-07 PST Martin Owens (not the QR code one, but the 2D Barcodes one) 2020-10-12 15-39-01 PDT Martin Owens :-D 2020-12-13 14-04-11 PST Martin Owens Interestingly I got a C in Maths. But it was a capped GCSE (this is where the maximum you can get is a B in Maths and a C in English) 2020-12-13 14-11-17 PST Martin Owens https://meet.jit.si/LordOwens 2021-02-20 08-11-13 PST Martin Owens Thanks Tim! 2020-12-18 09-33-43 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2020-12-18 12-32-01.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Em7LGh5YwLzPqCzfM/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-12-18 09-35-03 PST Martin Owens Making a t-shirt with HPV 2020-12-20 11-01-28 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2020-12-20 14-01-04.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/J2T8ag58Lm2Cqiywt/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-11-28 15-56-29 PST Martin Owens https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2554 2020-12-20 11-01-31 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2020-12-20 14-00-49.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Zeu4okiMwc3maNhDz/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2021-02-13 04-20-59 PST Martin Owens I agree, although I'm already picking graphics out for various bits and bobs. 2020-12-20 10-15-23 PST Martin Owens Great, you jitsi to OBS? 2020-10-10 05-14-20 PDT Martin Owens As for recording. I actually think we could do with a tool that actually does these kinds of recordings. Because it's something that requires a bit more automation to get it nice to use (although it desn't help phone users who called in from India for example) 2020-10-10 12-00-03 PDT Martin Owens Sure, I'll hang on. 2020-10-10 06-11-24 PDT Martin Owens Wow that's a lot of editing! 2020-12-18 09-34-20 PST Martin Owens Sunday, 2pm will be good for me. Should be quiet in the house, maybe I can get violet to go sledding in the snow 2021-02-13 04-15-15 PST Martin Owens But I do have to say *wow there's so many good entries in the third week* 2021-02-13 04-15-02 PST Martin Owens Job done, you can message him, it's your master plan :-D 2020-11-28 10-03-08 PST Martin Owens How are you doing Tim? 2020-12-13 14-01-43 PST Martin Owens Ah don't worry lad, I got a D in my English GCSE. 2021-02-12 14-32-05 PST Martin Owens OK that seems to have cleared a bunch of things out 2021-01-14 08-48-51 PST Martin Owens Moini said `And it's going to confuse those who are ... well, those Tim describes.` <- all I could think of was Harry Enfield's "Tim's nice but dims", which is super cruel of my brain to reference. 2021-01-14 08-59-37 PST Martin Owens Aw, at least Tim in the series got back at his city mates. 2021-01-14 09-00-02 PST Martin Owens Shame many Enfield fans never really understood he was a socialist poking fun at them. Oh well. 2021-01-23 09-44-06 PST Martin Owens Morning Tim, would it be ok if you posted my video to the facebook group this week? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tOQjQwjNQ it's a quiet week, I think everyone's de-stressing 2021-01-23 11-19-20 PST Martin Owens Thanks mate! 2021-01-29 07-59-09 PST Martin Owens I think you should add this artist to your list of people to interview: https://twitter.com/artnodes/status/1355149096835715072 they've inspired someone to use Inkscape 2021-02-13 04-07-42 PST Martin Owens @Tim Sure, I could edit it and upload it to the resource itself, ironically providing it to them 2021-02-14 13-13-31 PST Martin Owens Good plan. 2021-02-14 13-21-44 PST Martin Owens I'm ok. 2021-02-14 13-33-23 PST Martin Owens Aw thanks. 2021-02-14 13-40-39 PST Martin Owens True enough 2021-02-13 04-08-43 PST Martin Owens Sure, I was going to remove the sketches too, but anything you got, layer it on me 2021-02-06 10-37-35 PST Martin Owens Could do with some TLC if you can heart https://twitter.com/realdoctormo/status/1358074449107550218 2021-02-06 14-04-46 PST Martin Owens Thanks Tim! :-D 2021-02-06 14-04-51 PST Martin Owens You're a star 2021-02-06 16-34-03 PST Martin Owens I think you posted this to the wrong place Tim 2021-02-14 13-03-48 PST Martin Owens Tim lad, sorry to bother you. I'm a bit angry at Maren's attitude with the welcome screen translations. Just being so bloody rotten about it in the vectors chat. Could you have a look at what's she's written and give me your thoughts on what we should do as a project. I ask because, emotionally, I don't want to do anything that Maren wants, just out of spite (which is wrong, I know) so if you have a spare 5 mins. Only if you have time though :-) 2021-02-14 13-21-51 PST Martin Owens Why do you ask? :-) 2021-02-14 13-26-46 PST Martin Owens No, I'll be honest Tim, I have Maren blocked on rocket chat, and I have since December. Every time she talks to me, I feel like shit and she's not worth the heartache of feeling like I'm being told off for every little thing. Everything from experimenting with weblate, to being laughed at when I tried to open up about the problems in the board, to just a general attitude problem which at first I thought might be because of the whole cultural difference thing, but even if it is, I don't have to put up with being guilted into action all the time. 2021-02-14 13-36-53 PST Martin Owens I think what hurts is that I do actually respect Maren for her contributions. And it's bad when you get to the point where someone has burned their social capital and doesn't realise it. 2021-02-14 13-40-57 PST Martin Owens It's Sunday! Sunday is Fun day! 2021-02-14 13-41-02 PST Martin Owens (also washing day) 2021-02-14 13-42-06 PST Martin Owens I see what you've been doing for Val's day! 2021-02-20 08-11-34 PST Martin Owens The contest ends tomorrow, really excited to see the votes for this one! 2021-02-20 08-14-44 PST Martin Owens I think so, is it on the calendar? 2021-02-20 08-15-22 PST Martin Owens I get one hour warnings for all inkscape calendar entries :-D 2021-02-20 08-16-24 PST Martin Owens Want to know the secret code? 2021-02-20 08-17-51 PST Martin Owens Add `?alarm=-1` to the url of the ical when you add it to your calendar program and it will auto-add a one hour notification to all entries in that calendar. 2021-02-20 08-18-14 PST Martin Owens So for the inkscape calendar it's `https://inkscape.org/cals/inkscape.ics?alarm=-1` but for the vectors one, you'd just add that to the vectors ical link. 2021-02-20 08-20-54 PST Martin Owens Yeah, about 13 years ago there was this web technology that allows calendar and address book entries to be intergrated into a webpage, but no one ended up using them :-/ 2021-02-21 06-42-41 PST Martin Owens @Tim Yes, I actually removed the ability to add attachments to the comments when you edit them (when I added the editing feature) because I felt it was a bit odd to have forum attachments attached to resource comments. 2021-02-21 06-43-26 PST Martin Owens Resource inception! 2021-02-21 06-49-30 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2021-02-21 09-49-06.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/i7T93B23fdZ4xiWSg/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2021-02-21 06-49-40 PST Martin Owens Just so you can see there's no work in this 2021-02-21 06-50-37 PST Martin Owens I'm having a think about the gift offer, it's very kind of you. Chris has already made me so many graphics for my update videos already. 2021-02-21 06-51-37 PST Martin Owens OK attachments are re-enabled, do you want a walk through of how to use them? 2021-02-21 06-52-23 PST Martin Owens Let's go https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/vec-vy2-8mk 2021-02-21 07-01-55 PST Martin Owens card_2.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/wnx2maMxjyRgCEdPS/card_2.svg) 2021-02-22 09-33-49 PST Martin Owens It's on my list 2021-02-22 09-50-02 PST Martin Owens Tim are you available for some testing today? 2021-02-24 08-07-22 PST Martin Owens Deployed https://www.youtube.com/c/MartinOwens 2021-02-24 08-02-01 PST Martin Owens Wow, nice work tim! 2021-02-24 08-58-43 PST Martin Owens It's always suborn 2021-02-24 08-59-27 PST Martin Owens It'll take a few hours probably to decay from youtube's web cache 2021-02-24 09-03-25 PST Martin Owens Now I just need to reach a couple of million users :-P 2021-02-24 16-52-48 PST Martin Owens I agree, I actually saved Chris' original re-design of me for my Halloween special, because the eyes were creepier, hehe. So all three have we monkied with this visage. 2021-02-24 16-53-07 PST Martin Owens (the original one was actually an ancient comission I had done about 10 years ago) 2021-02-28 19-14-34 PST Martin Owens You guys in a meeting? 2021-03-03 03-30-30 PST Martin Owens Wrong feature! 2021-03-03 03-34-26 PST Martin Owens thanks for re-tweeting! 2021-03-03 03-34-20 PST Martin Owens I had to re-post as I completely mucked up what I was posting https://twitter.com/realdoctormo/status/1367075416633204741 2021-03-09 14-12-20 PST Martin Owens Me and Chris are hanging out at https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/vec-vy2-8mk 2021-03-10 10-56-17 PST Martin Owens I think someone in 1915 created a cartoon of me: https://openclipart.org/detail/185000/money-running-from-one-man-to-another :-P 2021-03-10 16-16-20 PST Martin Owens Tim, I have a small request. I'd like a quick review of my slides for my LibrePlanet talk if you have time. 2021-03-10 16-16-30 PST Martin Owens draft_2.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/az4BuD3askNo9ANYS/draft_2.zip) 2021-03-10 16-16-41 PST Martin Owens No worried if not, I'm asking around. 2021-03-10 16-18-17 PST Martin Owens (and I know page 15 needs the graphic to be standardised, I'm planning on finishing that tomorrow, which is the due date for sending them :-D) 2021-03-10 16-25-23 PST Martin Owens Haha, Chris has filled the page 15 gap, he's such a fine fella. :-D I'll repost draft3 soon, so no need to look at the above. 2021-04-21 12-54-09 PDT Martin Owens Hi Tim, checking in to see how you are lad. Hope everything is going ok. 2020-12-13 14-04-30 PST Martin Owens And that was the last time I did any sort of Education :-P 2020-10-10 09-06-19 PDT Martin Owens Looking good Tim, are you ready to have it uploaded to youtube? 2020-12-13 14-01-11 PST Martin Owens Trying to get you some nice code pictures 2020-12-13 14-04-19 PST Martin Owens All my grades were Max-1 2020-12-20 10-58-32 PST Martin Owens out2.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/d2XuYYsiRAqqyFfcy/out2.png) 2020-12-13 13-41-37 PST Martin Owens Hi Tim! 2020-12-13 14-10-59 PST Martin Owens Next weekend works good for me 2020-12-18 09-31-49 PST Martin Owens Oh wow, so nice. 2020-11-28 15-54-03 PST Martin Owens Fixed that for you Tim :-D 2020-12-18 09-33-56 PST Martin Owens This is the video I'm currently making for my Sat update. 2020-11-28 12-20-32 PST Martin Owens Tim I figure you'd get a kick out of this weeks video https://www.patreon.com/posts/44411882 2020-12-13 13-42-47 PST Martin Owens Can we do it in Christmas cardigans and santa hats? 2020-12-18 09-36-51 PST Martin Owens There is only ONE, and I'm offering it to my Patreons first come first served. (but, making them is super easy which I show in the video) 2020-12-13 13-54-21 PST Martin Owens You can find a selection of art here: doctormo.deviantart.com let me know if there's anything that is low res and needs a higher resolution. 2020-11-28 13-47-35 PST Martin Owens It's not a download, it's a link (although that's not very clear) 2020-10-10 06-11-42 PDT Martin Owens What video editor are you uisng? 2020-10-13 12-39-41 PDT Martin Owens :-D 2020-10-13 13-40-05 PDT Martin Owens Does the watch party video need to be mixed in? 2020-10-13 12-39-38 PDT Martin Owens Brilliant 2020-12-13 14-06-26 PST Martin Owens You outed yourself as an elite with your O Level! :-D 2020-12-19 05-19-40 PST Martin Owens Thanks for reviewing! 2020-01-24 15-17-32 PST Martin Owens Hey Tim, do you think we could get a backup Facebook contact? Moini was saying everyone's got busy and I'd like to see if we can get a second person from the great kingdom of Facebook like yourself. 2020-04-27 17-56-20 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Tim, hope all is well. 2021-02-24 08-52-33 PST Martin Owens Like that? 2021-02-24 08-48-43 PST Martin Owens :-D 2020-11-28 13-41-36 PST Tim Jones Great opener... once again! Lovely surprise to see my name on screen, it was very humbling to be included in your thanks... :-)
As a side note:
I attempted to download the the latest Developer branch of Inkscape (appimage). It doesn't download?
It says downloading but nothing happens...
https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-master/gnulinux/appimage/dl/ 2020-01-24 15-26-19 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin, sorry I've not been around much, my health hasn't been good recently. 2020-11-28 14-10-02 PST Tim Jones It's a huge hit for my personal work flow... Inking with the Calligraphy tool then erasing over hanging lines. sort of old school pen and ink style.
I might be the only one it affects this way... lol 2020-12-19 01-44-45 PST Tim Jones The sound was fine for me. Enjoyed the video, nice T-Shirt design 🎅🎄 2020-10-10 10-52-34 PDT Tim Jones Do you want to wait until you have the whole day...? Then you can put up one a day, which will help drive views...? Your call... 👍 2020-10-19 13-11-37 PDT Tim Jones Hi Martin,
Episode 5 - "The New Website - Introduction - part1"
https://mega.nz/file/fFlzjYjZ#MHzxAf1ebzLHiWvCNbEoPzen0RaOi2jm3HdUKnzjDLI
Last video... coming soon! ;-) 2020-12-18 09-34-49 PST Tim Jones ooh what are you making..? or should i wait...lol 2020-10-13 13-37-47 PDT Tim Jones I forgot to mention you will need to post the link to the Watch Party Video in the Description area below the Video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0NucWKsGg 2021-02-13 05-34-34 PST Tim Jones Ahh I see what you mean now, sorry was not on the same page... Doh!
I would be happy to help, just give me a shout, point me in a direction, wind me up... and let me loose! ;-) 2020-12-13 14-02-24 PST Tim Jones I had a "D" in Maths 2021-02-21 06-51-48 PST Tim Jones yes pls 2021-02-13 04-09-36 PST Tim Jones inkscape_1.1_screen_contest.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DppTFKvEJHZMoLKKc/inkscape_1.1_screen…) 2020-11-28 13-55-11 PST Tim Jones Testing now... Sad to see the Eraser is still broken when the Layers Dialogue is open... :-( 2021-02-13 05-14-05 PST Tim Jones Perhaps we should choose a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place then from the comp, that way everyone gets a say in what is used...? 2020-11-28 10-06-43 PST Tim Jones Yes definitely, I do like the little intro clips at the beginning. ☺️ 2020-12-13 14-01-16 PST Tim Jones wow, my typing is awful... lol You wouldn't think I had an English language O'Level... :thinking: 2020-12-18 09-38-26 PST Tim Jones I dont mean yours, just patreon in general 2020-11-28 13-48-09 PST Tim Jones Panic over, I grabbed it from the "Jobs" section... Im such a Noob! lol 2020-12-13 13-19-37 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin; (me chasing you for an interview)
Hopefully you've seen the interviews with Sven and Chris?
This should give you an idea of the informal format I'm using.
The premise of the "spotlight" series is, two people having a casual chat about life, the universe and Inkscape! ;-)
The questioning is generally:
A bit about you, the person behind the persona.
How you heard about Inkscape?
How you got involved?
What are you working on at the moment ?
Finally, if you had a magic wand what you would want in Inkscape etc...
It would be really awesome to have some images to display in the Slideshow, this can be anything you have done or been involved with... Photos from hackfests, your art, your patreon image, a screenshot of inkscape code... anything that might be interesting for viewers to look at while we ramble on...
If you can get this to me asap, we can organize an interview date/time.
I would love to get this out before Xmas if possible?
I do understand you are very busy...
The interview is about an hour, I try to record in a single take, I think it is more natural that way... So allowing for a bit of set-up time before we start and a chat after, I would need about 2 hours of your time, if that is ok? 2020-12-13 14-07-02 PST Tim Jones hahahaha.... 2020-12-18 09-38-01 PST Tim Jones Cool, I need to sign up to Patreon... Not really looked at it tbh 2020-12-18 09-32-56 PST Tim Jones What time do you want to start on Sunday? I was thinking 2pm your time, I think that is 7pm my time? 2020-10-13 12-30-36 PDT Tim Jones https://mega.nz/file/vdV0iZwQ#HvzYLZV05Xxmb85keb3rIy0vjjGLLU9lCEcqdqnOo8M
Part 3. Watch Party & FOSS discussion.
FFwd to 18:09mins for a bit of fun! ;-) 2021-02-13 04-29-43 PST Tim Jones Which is a really nice situation to be in... Great that we can use other entries not just the winner! 2021-02-20 08-16-37 PST Tim Jones yes pls :-) 2021-02-20 08-13-38 PST Tim Jones yeah me too! 2020-10-10 12-13-16 PDT Tim Jones Hahahaha.... That intro was really funny!
Nice Video :thumbsup:
Here is the next video (The 1st Break - Show & Tell). It's good to see Contributors just having fun!
https://mega.nz/file/qU9TRaAL#he5mRGtaICPFtRZvKxNhiXfccRgT7P1yHixNI7wIfNU 2020-12-13 13-51-36 PST Tim Jones of course... :-D 2020-12-18 09-36-18 PST Tim Jones Great ill get that booked in... We don't get much snow where i am :-(
Ooh nice, looks like I will be buying one of those then... ;-) 2020-12-18 09-31-32 PST Tim Jones 2020-12-18_17-25.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/3MHQSKbBu8TZg24oJ/2020-12-18_17-25.png) 2020-12-13 13-54-51 PST Tim Jones ahh cool thanks 2020-12-13 14-02-37 PST Tim Jones Excellent thanks 2020-12-20 10-26-23 PST Tim Jones yeah I clip the scene to match my template 2020-12-20 10-25-30 PST Tim Jones i record the jitsi screen 2020-10-10 02-48-43 PDT Tim Jones Hi Martin,🙋
just wanted to let you know, I am still working on the Vectors Hackfest video.
Last week was super busy with my youngest going back to University (Birmingham - reading History). Hopefully get it finished in the next few days...?
Unfortunately Ryan's audio had a lot of latency which is causing some sync issues, when multiple people are talking on camera. ( I'll sort it though 😉)
It might be worth getting presenters to record their own audio streams in Audacity to add in post processing....for future events?
🙂 2021-02-13 04-17-44 PST Tim Jones Yes I'll message him 2020-10-12 15-06-12 PDT Tim Jones 4 videos left to edit... :-) 2020-12-18 09-39-20 PST Tim Jones Its a good idea nice way for people to give back 2021-02-13 04-10-51 PST Tim Jones Can you message Fabien to tell him you upload3ed the un-hidden version? Or would you prefer I message him? 2021-01-14 08-59-15 PST Tim Jones haha yes, I often get that said to me... lol 2021-01-14 09-00-56 PST Tim Jones indeed, lost in translation... :zany_face: 2021-01-23 10-55-34 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin, yes of course I will. 👍 2021-01-23 11-01-58 PST Tim Jones Screenshot_20210123-190046.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/vfpk83xkFDaG3Szm6/Screenshot_20210123…) 2021-02-02 13-55-10 PST Tim Jones Sorry Martin, I totally missed this message. I don't know the artist, I will look into it, thanks! :thumbup: 2021-02-13 04-17-32 PST Tim Jones To be honest I don't think there is a bad one this year... Judging is going to be very hard! 👍 2021-02-13 04-09-48 PST Tim Jones I removed the sketch layer 2021-02-13 04-08-20 PST Tim Jones save you doing it 2021-02-14 13-13-40 PST Tim Jones :-) 2021-02-13 04-06-44 PST Tim Jones hi Martin
Is there a way we can send the un-hidden SVG to Fabien? I'm not sure if they fully understand what they did, or how to retrieve the layers? 2021-02-13 04-08-11 PST Tim Jones I have a fully edited version if you want it? 2021-02-06 13-54-36 PST Tim Jones Done and shared... 😉 2021-02-07 02-34-49 PST Tim Jones Oops tired eyes... Lol 2021-02-12 14-23-01 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin, here are some Spam Channels that seem to have popped up.
https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/aNXycwdRTddPvk4v3
https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/corpsehusbandclub
https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/e3vFtFTGwdkmEGPrv
https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/mJLq6fJYYMCJLG3pS
https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/qt3KyyM5BHAcj6zGS 2021-02-14 13-05-13 PST Tim Jones no worries on my way... Stay calm, she winds me up sometimes too... lol ;-) 2021-02-14 13-12-13 PST Tim Jones Just quickly scanned through the conversation...
My opinion:
Just use "Welcome"
the text "to Inkscape" is moot really, because the user has just opened Inkscape, they know where they are.
"Welcome" is a just a pleasantry message of greeting, that says it all.
This would render the issue /null and let you move on... ;-) 2021-02-14 13-21-11 PST Tim Jones Hey Martin, just checking, are you OK? 2021-02-14 13-22-40 PST Tim Jones In case you were festering over the "Welcome Gate" issue... :-D 2021-02-14 13-30-48 PST Tim Jones Very true, you shouldn't be guilted into things, especially as she, is making wave to reduce what she does, while still having opinions everywhere!
I try to block her out most of the time, usually needing to count to ten, walk away and come back with a smile...
Don't get disheartened, there is always "one"!
...and remember, I think you are a STAR! :star2: :wink: 2021-02-14 13-40-12 PST Tim Jones Yeah I agree, she can be amazing and really inspiring etc... then she can knock you down with a single sentence... I have taken the line now, where I treat was she says as a challenge.
"smaile and wave boys... smile and wave..." LOL
It doesn't hurt to have a gripe now and then, it clears the air...! ;-) 2021-02-14 13-40-43 PST Tim Jones God my typing is bad today...lol 2021-02-14 13-41-45 PST Tim Jones and cooking day and giving foot rub day... Oh too much info... lol 2021-02-14 13-42-35 PST Tim Jones Apparently it's the Law, so my wife tells me... 2021-02-20 07-15-51 PST Tim Jones Screenshot-20210220151454-517x629.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/mmbmL3MtJzewk9HA5/Screenshot-20210220…) 2021-02-20 07-15-56 PST Tim Jones Hope this helps Martin... 2021-02-20 08-14-16 PST Tim Jones Will you be available to join the BBB at 10:30pm UTC..? 2021-02-20 08-15-01 PST Tim Jones yes on the calendar ;-) 2021-02-20 08-16-11 PST Tim Jones Ooh excellent! i'm going to set some alarms, good idea! 2021-02-20 08-19-46 PST Tim Jones Ooh! very nice! im going to do that now!
In truth I've only just worked out how to add the calendar to my Google Calendar thing... I got very confused... lol 2021-02-20 08-24-08 PST Tim Jones thats a shame... just loaded that in, i'm excited to see if it works, or not... I've set it for all meetings, i do want to try and attend as many as i can, it helps with understanding what is going on. Some I just can't make but still nice to know when they are etc... 2021-02-21 04-45-41 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin, this is not for action now... just putting it here as a wish list item for next year's competition (and other comps).
Would it be possible to insert a screenshot into my comments to the contestants?
This would be especially useful for the Non-English speakers, to help get across the issues they need to resolve.
Or maybe a dedicated Gallery I could link (them) to an uploaded screenshot of their issue?
When the contest closes, we could remove all the screenshots from that area, ready for the next use case.
Oh! By the way, I've been trying to think of ways to do something for you, in return for the things you have done for me...
Would you be willing to let me create a custom Banner for your YouTube Channel? :-) 2021-02-21 06-48-15 PST Tim Jones Hahaha... Resource Inception, I like that! Lol
What about me creating a YouTube Banner for you?
I feel I should do something for you! 🙂 2021-02-21 06-51-18 PST Tim Jones Or if you have something else you need/want please let me know... ;-) 2021-02-22 08-03-40 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin, it looks like users are still able to edit and re-upload submissions to the contest. When you have time, could you have a look for me please. :-) 2021-02-22 09-39-46 PST Tim Jones Thanks Martin, really appreciate you adding this to your timetable. 👍🙂 2021-02-22 11-30-22 PST Tim Jones back now Martin, ill jump into that test area :thumbsup: 2021-02-23 13-02-27 PST Tim Jones DoctorMo_Youtube_Banner-2560x1440.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/HH8APFQ7AHaMB27JZ/DoctorMo_Youtube_Ba…) 2021-02-23 13-02-32 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin, as promised here is your YouTube Banner.
I designed it so that whatever device someone is using, they still see something interesting (hopefully... Lol). 2021-02-23 13-03-05 PST Tim Jones DoctorMO_YouTube_Banner-Master.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/W4gY9MtWmY2zRKbhv/DoctorMO_YouTube_Ba…) 2021-02-24 08-45-38 PST Tim Jones Glad you like it... 🙂
Can I suggest, you use the cartoon version of yourself (from the banner) as the Avatar icon for your channel. Flip it horizontally, to face right. This will make your brand more cohesive.
😉 2021-02-24 08-56-41 PST Tim Jones Screenshot_20210224-165536.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/uwZL6iJehQqgQ9RPk/Screenshot_20210224…) 2021-02-24 09-01-41 PST Tim Jones AHH yes, very true...👍
I do like how your branding has come together... 🙂 2021-02-24 09-04-54 PST Tim Jones You will... Regular uploads will get you there eventually, I'm sure of it! 😉👍 2021-02-24 13-53-03 PST Tim Jones Screenshot-20210224215242-1302x677.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/QA6h9yk2jbTzSP6bF/Screenshot-20210224…) 2021-02-24 13-53-07 PST Tim Jones Dude... It looks AWESOME!
Chris did an amazing job with the original design...
Just so you know, I adjusted the head and eyes, on your likeness.
So that you are looking out at the viewers.
I think it is more welcoming that way. ;-) 2021-03-03 04-09-22 PST Tim Jones No worries... 👍 2020-10-13 13-41-45 PDT Tim Jones No I have put a screen card up telling people to go watch the video then come back.
I tried contacting the guy about any copyright issues, but not heard back, so thought it safer to just send people off to watch it... 2020-12-18 09-32-12 PST Tim Jones thanks 2020-12-13 13-56-06 PST Tim Jones Thats fine, we can put a disclaimer in the show notes 2020-10-10 08-51-30 PDT Tim Jones Hi Martin, here is the link for the first video "Part One". It is from my Mega.nz cloud storage. I don't know if there is a better way to share large file with you?
https://mega.nz/file/zI8XDS4b#n-Jq_jKcw9NsxcAEglZm6V1k4ZhGUVMX0g3GYWzeHac
I have access to "Box" cloud storage. If Mega is no good, we can try "Box". 2020-10-12 15-04-19 PDT Tim Jones https://mega.nz/file/KV0HhIRR#HNWcUbWnGAUKoDlUOdmph7UF4EvBmy3FHeOWnxDzaO4 2020-11-28 10-02-25 PST Tim Jones Hi Martin,
I'm keen to do a proper interview with you on the Podcast, but if you have something you want to address, we can arrange an informal podcast if you want?
We could do the proper interview at a later date...? 2020-10-10 05-47-47 PDT Tim Jones I'm super pleased with the outro... We need to give credit to "TheGeekHunt" for making the royalty free clip (Like & subscribe clip). I edited out 32 minutes worth of "umm's", Lol... 2020-12-13 13-58-31 PST Tim Jones OMG I have used that barcode thing so much.... 2020-10-10 07-41-40 PDT Tim Jones I'm using "Flowblade" it's a Linux first editor. It is very stable and quick to render. 2020-12-13 14-05-23 PST Tim Jones I left school before GCSE's were a thing... Lol 2020-10-10 05-44-18 PDT Tim Jones Just rendering the first period of the Hackfest (up to the 1st break). 2020-10-13 13-39-22 PDT Tim Jones
Next Video:
Break 2 - Drawing challenge
https://mega.nz/file/ON1U1SAA#0m_iPXHUGhlHuqxGzNUenqywWCGHLJKC1JrI3nFOAis 2020-10-19 18-03-07 PDT Tim Jones Last one ....
Episode 6 - "The New Website - Introduction - part2"
https://mega.nz/file/7AcQmZxC#0G2thI1Sh0vDKuIF_PpdCh24KItZAFHTeZl3A-LINPM
The outro music is "Coffee Stains" from YouTube music library, so royalty free. 2020-04-27 17-31-37 PDT Tim Jones Hi Martin, sorry I've not been around much, had a bad week health wise... feeling much better now! I will take a look at the issue you tagged me in tomorrow, I have read through it, but I need to give it some serious thought before I reply. It is a very important topic and very close to my heart. 2020-01-24 15-27-14 PST Tim Jones I can ask Oz one of the other Admins of FB, I think he would like to be involved more? 2020-12-13 13-54-28 PST Tim Jones Excellent... sounds great! If you can get together about 20+ images for the slideshow. I can get that loaded into my template, and we can organize a date time that suits. 2020-12-20 10-22-49 PST Tim Jones https://meet.jit.si/PodChat105
Password= tim105 2020-12-13 13-58-11 PST Tim Jones nice artwork by the way... Can you grab me some screenshots of Inkscape code, I thinks that would be really interesting for people to see. 2020-11-28 10-04-03 PST Tim Jones Oh ok... Yeah I'm ok and you...? Very impressed with your update videos by the way 👍 2020-12-13 14-09-43 PST Tim Jones How are you fixed for next weekend? Sunday is good for me 2020-10-12 15-04-11 PDT Tim Jones Hi Martin, here is Part 2 of Vectors Hackfest "Meet and Join Vectors". 2020-12-20 10-15-07 PST Tim Jones Ok just going upstairs to the ManCave... I'll send you the Jitsi link. It will have a password. 👍 2020-11-29 00-43-41 PST Tim Jones Oh you absolute STAR... I can't thank you enough! ♥️ You won't know what this means to me... I am so very grateful. 🤗👏👏👏👏 2020-11-28 14-12-30 PST Tim Jones Yes broken in ver. 1.0 in Windows 10, Ubuntu 20.04 and in Manjaro 20.1
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/3755
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2020-05-07 01-29-30 PDT Martin Owens No, I think a ux issue 2020-11-24 06-31-52 PST Martin Owens I was hoping to get a draft done today to ask tav for intergration help 2020-08-11 15-10-07 PDT Martin Owens Lol, I have been doing lots of different things. 2020-05-07 01-38-04 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for pushing at this. I've been super busy. 2020-08-11 15-26-07 PDT Martin Owens Me too! Thanks for your help! 2020-11-08 05-18-06 PST Martin Owens https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/vec-grt-cyu 2020-11-24 09-24-54 PST Martin Owens Great! 2020-11-24 13-14-03 PST Martin Owens Keeps the style and pushes it forwards 2020-08-26 14-19-42 PDT Martin Owens Pango format is what I meant above. 2020-08-11 15-26-12 PDT Martin Owens Good night! 2020-11-24 13-13-56 PST Martin Owens Yes, love it!!!! 2020-11-24 14-47-57 PST Martin Owens You posted a new thing and then deleted it? 2020-11-24 14-49-31 PST Martin Owens The backgrounds can be dark and light, so imagine it on the dark mode and light modes 2020-11-24 14-48-50 PST Martin Owens Looking good 2020-08-11 15-09-42 PDT Martin Owens I want to go with "$100 per month, I will work a minimum 5 hours on Inkscape" etc. 2020-11-24 06-31-57 PST Martin Owens How much time do you need? 2020-08-26 14-19-27 PDT Martin Owens You caught me just as I was going to bed :-) 2020-08-11 15-10-22 PDT Martin Owens But your advice, what would you do for tiers? 2020-05-04 03-44-23 PDT Martin Owens If you attach the glade file, I'll be able to continue development from there (because it'll need a small amount of code) 2020-05-07 01-37-41 PDT Martin Owens Yep, sound good! 2020-08-11 15-14-04 PDT Martin Owens Yes, I think this will have to be done properly with reports etc. 2020-08-11 14-48-39 PDT Martin Owens What do you think of my new page? https://www.patreon.com/doctormo 2020-11-24 14-48-58 PST Martin Owens Yes, use a quick group clip 2020-11-22 14-35-49 PST Martin Owens Thanks! 2020-11-08 05-05-44 PST Martin Owens Great, I've had my breakfest and tea, so I'm ready and waiting. 2020-11-24 15-58-00 PST Martin Owens Love them! I'm going to add them now (svg) and have a very good night! 2020-08-11 15-14-19 PDT Martin Owens Goals is what I'll be after 2020-08-11 15-20-01 PDT Martin Owens No, that is a wise assessment 2020-08-11 15-08-58 PDT Martin Owens I'm trying to work out how to work the patreon system 2020-11-24 14-49-44 PST Martin Owens (I don't mind if they shine out on the dark mode) 2020-11-08 03-22-51 PST Martin Owens Timing is key. I'm awake now, so let me know 2020-08-19 15-04-08 PDT Martin Owens The text would have to be in gnome format if you want it to have formatting. 2020-11-06 18-53-47 PST Martin Owens Erm, I'm not sure if I've messed up. Let me know. (and sorry proactively) 2020-05-03 08-38-11 PDT Martin Owens Hi! Thanks so much, this is super exciting. So once complete the issue gets assigned to me, glade file attached to issue, and I find the to put it all together. 2020-05-07 01-29-51 PDT Martin Owens We can probably get this iteration in now though. 2020-08-11 15-09-10 PDT Jorge Toledo I'd also add a link to your activity on Gitlab or something like that. People would be blown away about everything you are doing. 2020-11-22 14-34-13 PST Jorge Toledo Not sure if the conversation was of any help :sweat_smile: 2020-08-11 15-07-26 PDT Jorge Toledo Huh, doesn't Patreon allow to follow someone without becoming a Patron? 2020-11-24 15-10-17 PST Jorge Toledo start-screen-graphics.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/P2mBdxCy2GLutTASP/start-screen-graphi…) 2020-11-24 13-22-10 PST Jorge Toledo Great! I'll continue in this direction 2020-11-08 10-53-44 PST Jorge Toledo https://twitter.com/eldelacajita/status/1325499761043140610 2020-05-07 01-52-47 PDT Jorge Toledo Thanks to you for the guidance and patience :grin: 2020-11-22 14-30-40 PST Jorge Toledo https://inkscape.org/~Lutik-drawing/%E2%98%85artfriends 2020-11-07 14-38-35 PST Jorge Toledo If you really feel like doing the live coding thing, let me know that time is best for you! 2020-05-07 01-10-19 PDT Jorge Toledo I guess that with your last proposal for including a whole tab for "debug" info, the debate has expanded a bit :grin: We can either propose a simple iteration (which would be already an improvement) and then work on the next one, or directly work towards the full scope of it. 2020-11-24 15-02-21 PST Jorge Toledo That's what I was testing 2020-11-24 15-02-11 PST Jorge Toledo start-screen-graphics-c-b.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/YowGyA42DbNnMfpRW/start-screen-graphi…) 2020-08-19 11-33-31 PDT Jorge Toledo I have attached a modified glade file and text file, but I only got so far. 2020-11-07 14-39-28 PST Jorge Toledo I think it can be a win-win-win: I learn, you generate content, we get this thing done :smile: 2020-05-04 01-18-37 PDT Jorge Toledo You mean the issue I created (https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/2388)? Should I attach the glade file there? Or to the merge request where we were having the discussion? 2020-08-11 15-17-42 PDT Jorge Toledo Like, two or three goals 2020-08-11 15-16-38 PDT Jorge Toledo Regarding goals, I think you could go for something more general 2020-08-11 15-08-00 PDT Jorge Toledo You talk about tiers in the text. Are you going to define some contribution tiers or some donation goals? 2020-11-22 14-30-39 PST Jorge Toledo I'll put this here, just to keep it somewhere 2020-08-11 15-19-41 PDT Jorge Toledo Aaaand that was a TOTAL BLIND GUESS by me because I dont't know how you make a living :grin: 2020-05-03 04-57-38 PDT Jorge Toledo I'm cleaning "test 6" of the About screen, removing redundant boxes and stuff, addig tooltips, etc. I'm not sure how I can help from here. 2020-11-07 12-21-47 PST Jorge Toledo Oh, it DOES work, actually :grinning: 2020-08-11 15-12-59 PDT Jorge Toledo An interesting reference could be Yorik van Havre, Freecad Arch workbench developer 2020-11-24 13-11-39 PST Jorge Toledo Clipboard - November 24, 2020 10:11 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/3YBGk4MpKRwpWG4Rg/Clipboard%20-%20Nov…) 2020-08-11 15-25-35 PDT Jorge Toledo Time to go to bed for me! I see there's already an interesting debate on your issue about Patreon. I have a very busy week but I'll try to catch up later on everything. 2020-11-07 12-07-18 PST Jorge Toledo Something there has to be linked between the button and the code, but the way I did it doesn't seem to be it :joy: 2020-08-26 14-19-07 PDT Jorge Toledo Thanks, @doctormo! I've been away from the computer for some days, I'll let you know once I get back to it. 2020-05-04 04-07-23 PDT Jorge Toledo Sure, I'll do that. 2020-11-06 15-03-19 PST Jorge Toledo Clipboard - November 7, 2020 12:03 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/kBXdCSNvwWK2tBysS/Clipboard%20-%20Nov…) 2020-11-24 14-48-21 PST Jorge Toledo start-screen-graphics-c.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Hkr6auKACfLCKsimS/start-screen-graphi…) 2020-08-19 11-34-48 PDT Jorge Toledo I'm also not sure if I can add some kind of (HTML?) formatting to the text to make it nicer and easier to read. I still want to look into that but it's not a crucial issue. 2020-05-07 01-31-59 PDT Jorge Toledo I agree. Getting this finished with the basics (no extra debug info, I'd say), and starting a new UX issue for "debug info"? 2020-11-06 15-03-43 PST Jorge Toledo Sorry, I missed your last message on ux#36. I'll take it where I had left it. 2020-11-22 14-35-42 PST Jorge Toledo But ping me if you want to have another look at it together 2020-08-11 15-16-00 PDT Jorge Toledo https://www.patreon.com/prokoudine 2020-11-07 13-00-49 PST Jorge Toledo https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ux/-/issues/36#note_443615667 2020-05-03 05-01-03 PDT Jorge Toledo How should I send this to you? Should I try to push this to your branch? Start a new merge request? Or just send you the Glade file? 2020-11-07 13-00-48 PST Jorge Toledo New status report: 2020-11-06 15-03-17 PST Jorge Toledo Hey, Martin! 2020-08-11 15-19-06 PDT Jorge Toledo The thing with counting hours is that you are actually devoting a lot of hours to this, so you may not be able to devote more time just by getting some money. You would probably need some significant amount to change your lifestyle enough to make a difference in dedication. 2020-11-07 12-05-42 PST Jorge Toledo Clipboard - November 7, 2020 9:05 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/T9juGJYcnCpjPoy6L/Clipboard%20-%20Nov…) 2020-05-07 01-14-30 PDT Jorge Toledo What do you think? 2020-08-19 11-35-27 PDT Jorge Toledo Can you have a look at it? 2020-11-24 13-12-23 PST Jorge Toledo Concept, general style... 2020-08-19 11-33-59 PDT Jorge Toledo I tried compiling the code to test the changes, but didn't manage to build it. 2020-08-26 14-20-21 PDT Jorge Toledo Ah, great! That's a better clue, heh 2020-05-03 04-56-31 PDT Jorge Toledo Hi, @doctormo! 2020-11-24 13-11-58 PST Jorge Toledo General direction seems good? 2020-11-24 14-48-26 PST Jorge Toledo Yeah, by mistake 2020-08-26 14-20-23 PDT Jorge Toledo https://developer.gnome.org/pango/stable/pango-Markup.html 2020-08-26 14-20-58 PDT Jorge Toledo That's great, I'll look into it. 2020-05-03 04-59-02 PDT Jorge Toledo Not sure what handlers and stuff I should add for you to link it with the code, so maybe I'll leave that up to you. 2020-11-08 05-17-03 PST Jorge Toledo I'm ready too 2020-08-19 11-32-57 PDT Jorge Toledo Hi, @doctormo! I'm trying to make some light changes to license section of the about screen. 2020-08-11 15-08-14 PDT Jorge Toledo Not sure how that would work out in your case, just wondering 2020-08-19 11-32-59 PDT Jorge Toledo https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ux/-/issues/36#note_399000055 2020-08-11 15-17-29 PDT Jorge Toledo And a goal that would allow you to work PART TIME and then FULL TIME on Inkscape 2020-11-24 15-10-40 PST Jorge Toledo Do you need it in a specific format? In two separate files of certain size? 2020-05-07 01-52-20 PDT Jorge Toledo No problem! 2020-11-08 10-53-42 PST Jorge Toledo You'll probably get the notifications, but here it is 2020-08-11 15-52-47 PDT Jorge Toledo Thanks! 2020-08-11 15-05-52 PDT Jorge Toledo I think it's great! 2020-11-22 14-33-11 PST Jorge Toledo BTW, I suggested moving the canvas background options to the first tab, but that's not a good idea. That's a document-related setting, not a general one. 2020-08-11 15-13-01 PDT Jorge Toledo https://www.patreon.com/yorikvanhavre 2020-11-24 07-44-24 PST Jorge Toledo One or two hours, probably. I'll try to organize other things to make some place for this. 2020-11-08 05-17-53 PST Jorge Toledo How do you prefer to connect? 2020-08-11 15-13-57 PDT Jorge Toledo But I think he doesn't offer patron tiers like in "more money, you get to see more content" 2020-08-11 15-17-02 PDT Jorge Toledo Like a goal that would allow you to devote EXTRA time to Inkscape and leave some other paid job aside 2020-11-08 03-35-26 PST Jorge Toledo I think in an hour or so I'll be free of interruptions. I'll let you know. From there on, I'll be available anytime. 2020-08-11 15-09-28 PDT Jorge Toledo Like, you are literally everywhere :grin: 2020-08-11 15-06-04 PDT Jorge Toledo Love how the header already highlights a lot of different roles 2020-11-08 10-53-21 PST Jorge Toledo I wanted to post a tweet about this and ended up doing a whole thread 2020-11-24 14-48-48 PST Jorge Toledo Uh, I have to test this against different backgrounds 2020-08-11 15-13-23 PDT Jorge Toledo He mays very (VERY) thorough monthly reports on what he's been doing. 2020-08-11 15-07-30 PDT Jorge Toledo That's strange 2020-05-07 01-19-10 PDT Jorge Toledo Also, is the merge request the right place to continue this debate? Just checking, I'm still not sure about which channels to use. 2020-08-11 15-15-59 PDT Jorge Toledo Alexandre form LGW also has some patronage tiers (but he's a content creator, a different thing) 2020-11-24 06-29-16 PST Jorge Toledo Hi, Martin. What's your timeline for the welcome screen? When would you need the graphics done?
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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 377 Messages, 0 Files, 656763 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: sizmailov & doctormo
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21
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29 Apr '21
2020-01-31 15-57-04 PST Martin Owens Ah, we are brothers in disunity then and that's not bad advice to be honest. 2020-03-28 11-17-52 PDT Martin Owens Keeping the OverloadGuard in utils is optional, doesn't matter too much since utils isn't a part of the API. 2020-03-28 11-18-28 PDT Martin Owens You would test on every load? 2020-02-02 14-45-36 PST Martin Owens Using a document of many types of objects with lots of group levels and multiple types of transformations. Then attempt to move objects, their children etc. The box should stay around the object as you move it. 2020-03-04 07-22-54 PST Martin Owens That's the tradeoff, although for 1.1 we'd likely fold API changes into deprications. 2020-03-30 12-03-25 PDT Martin Owens Most extension writers are going to copy and paste and most extension writers aren't going to know what _ means anyway. 2020-04-06 21-23-44 PDT Martin Owens :-) 2020-03-31 11-45-53 PDT Martin Owens Hi 2020-03-02 10-35-40 PST Martin Owens The channel is #bug_migration 2020-03-04 07-24-04 PST Martin Owens You should rebase your MR 170 on master so it can be merged. 2020-03-28 10-56-31 PDT Martin Owens Is this a good thing to put into `tests/test_inkex.py` or something similar? 2020-03-02 08-52-39 PST Martin Owens As a firefox user I won't be able to test much. The idea is nice though. GitLab's interface isn't the greatest for joined up downloading. 2020-03-28 12-34-50 PDT Martin Owens Nah the issue is only with `__getitem__` we're in the clear with using only `__setitem__` 2020-03-28 13-16-32 PDT Martin Owens What was the error? 2020-03-28 12-41-55 PDT Martin Owens Yes, works good, python 3.7 2020-03-30 12-12-12 PDT Martin Owens People copy and paste extensions code from each other, so if we exhibit clean code in the core (and tutorials) then extension writers will follow without being too adventurous. 2020-03-28 12-34-55 PDT Martin Owens https://bugs.python.org/issue31968 2020-03-04 07-20-37 PST Martin Owens We got a first casualty of a developer trying to keep up with our API changes Layer vs. Group. We'll have to be careful going into 1.0 I think. 2020-03-30 12-13-23 PDT Martin Owens So Kristian Benoit committed two things directly to master. From email it looks like they're unaware they pushed directly to master. Broke damn near everything. 2020-03-28 13-16-23 PDT Martin Owens Although not sure, I didn't test it on direct file modules. 2020-03-28 12-47-29 PDT Martin Owens Oh right! 2020-04-01 12-20-34 PDT Martin Owens They should be hidden from the menu 2020-02-07 08-44-42 PST Martin Owens In the meantime 2020-03-28 13-21-47 PDT Martin Owens No problem. 2020-01-29 10-51-08 PST Martin Owens Thanks for your help. We've done good. 2020-02-21 16-47-46 PST Martin Owens Good luck with the thesis! I know they can be stressful 2020-04-01 12-20-27 PDT Martin Owens Templates and help links makes sense 2020-03-29 15-26-06 PDT Martin Owens I wish to be as generous as possible to the work and the review. We have two solutions which have a) some problems and b) writers who both /feel/ but can not evident the reason why it's better. This is a reciepe for impasse. 2020-02-02 14-46-48 PST Martin Owens Yes 2020-03-30 12-08-46 PDT Martin Owens Do you know Kristian Benoit 2020-03-29 16-21-12 PDT Martin Owens I've pushed a rename, it removes the underscores and moves `_base.py` to `primitives.py` 2020-04-10 05-43-22 PDT Martin Owens It's waiting for after 1.0 2020-03-28 12-52-52 PDT Martin Owens `__name__` is covered in the example code 2020-03-28 11-20-38 PDT Martin Owens Can be done without testing globals, modules have dictionaries, these can be used without messing with the import. 2020-03-28 11-42-31 PDT Martin Owens So I would move all the import statements into `def setUp(self):` and use an object variable to stoe the state as you go. 2020-04-01 10-10-44 PDT Martin Owens Trying to see if we have bug fixes for extensions that would help the release. 2020-04-01 12-32-15 PDT Martin Owens I agree to a degree, but I'm also aware of the ideal vs. the reality. 2020-01-29 08-34-34 PST Martin Owens Yes, I'm trying to get the constructor stuff done quickly so you can rebase. 2020-01-29 08-39-37 PST Martin Owens Ready 2020-03-28 00-35-11 PDT Martin Owens No same name conflicts? 2020-01-31 15-57-33 PST Martin Owens We could probably produce our own pussy riot. UK music has been getting a bit soft anyway. 2020-03-28 00-45-06 PDT Martin Owens I've pushed a review. It looks good, just a few things to clear up. 2020-03-28 13-17-00 PDT Martin Owens Oh? I'll test locally, hang on 2020-04-01 12-32-37 PDT Martin Owens I will be able to review this properly in a week or so, I'm crushing under a docs upgrade and some paid work. 2020-03-28 11-45-33 PDT Martin Owens I think I see what you're trying to prevent, a sync issues between __init__ and the test. 2020-01-31 16-29-26 PST Martin Owens Aye. There are just some certain days with more content that I want ;-) 2020-03-28 11-43-15 PDT Martin Owens (and convert to a regular test, but I don't know if you know how to write tests, I think yes) 2020-04-01 12-25-47 PDT Martin Owens On review, those hidden flags all make sense. 2020-03-28 13-21-57 PDT Martin Owens Have a good night and hope all is well! 2020-02-02 14-05-57 PST Martin Owens Hello 2020-04-01 12-21-04 PDT Martin Owens embed selected images is run from the right click menu 2020-03-28 01-52-01 PDT Martin Owens You can generate the lists from checking each module's dictionary. 2020-01-31 16-05-42 PST Martin Owens Heh, "make a fuss" 2020-02-07 08-47-09 PST Martin Owens None required, thanks. 2020-02-07 08-41-59 PST Martin Owens Hello 2020-03-29 15-50-24 PDT Martin Owens Merged 2020-03-29 15-44-13 PDT Martin Owens Then I owe you a big appology 2020-03-28 11-36-55 PDT Martin Owens print statements intentional? 2020-03-28 11-40-51 PDT Martin Owens You can use `type(attr).__name__` to get a better print out 2020-01-31 15-51-12 PST Martin Owens What used to be called the UK. 2020-03-28 11-41-12 PDT Martin Owens `type(attr).__module__, type(attr).__name__` 2020-03-28 12-46-58 PDT Martin Owens Question is, how can we both be right. 2020-04-06 15-44-49 PDT Martin Owens If you feel at all like you're not able to mentor as well as you want to be able to, I can take the review. Either way works for me. 2020-03-31 11-49-48 PDT Martin Owens We have only a handful of python people. I had to ask outside of Inkscape to get an assessment of our module namespace checker. 2020-03-31 11-46-04 PDT Martin Owens The reversion should be in now for the namespaces. 2020-03-29 15-44-48 PDT Martin Owens Rename elements.base to anything you want. Even basics works there. 2020-03-28 11-46-03 PDT Martin Owens I will look online for existing solutions, 2020-03-28 12-32-40 PDT Martin Owens Weird the PEP I read said they changed it in python3 to allow for this. 2020-02-02 14-11-23 PST Martin Owens But in this case, since the bug (at least your one, not nathen's) is code logic and not evident in running, it's hard to do much about. I understand why it works, but it might not be obvious. If you can narrow down what your seeing into symptoms. Or predictions. Then other bug testers can test them for you. 2020-03-04 07-31-22 PST Martin Owens It's mostly about sounding out the release, we /need/ to get release out the door before we all die of old age. 2020-04-01 12-22-00 PDT Martin Owens I don't know what stock/effect is, is this your new directory structure? 2020-03-29 15-47-29 PDT Martin Owens I am become mess, the destroyer of beauty. 2020-03-02 14-13-29 PST Martin Owens For the latest? 2020-01-29 08-39-44 PST Martin Owens In your own time, no rush 2020-03-28 12-59-37 PDT Martin Owens Now we're cooking with rolling rocks! 2020-04-01 10-10-29 PDT Martin Owens @sizmailov I like the idea, it's been on my todo for a while, although we're about to cut 1.0 rc1 so we may wait on merging until after 1.0 if that's ok? 2020-03-29 15-44-07 PDT Martin Owens Really? 2020-03-28 12-33-29 PDT Martin Owens In python2 you couldn't subclass globals, because it asked for the C dictionary type. 2020-03-02 08-56-23 PST Martin Owens I solved one of the issues with the extensions by using a little known GitLab API url so I can always go to the latest artefact from the main project site. 2020-01-28 18-02-08 PST Martin Owens Back from my adventures in parenting 2020-03-29 15-44-24 PDT Martin Owens My review has been predicated on the renaming of inkex.base 2020-03-30 12-03-43 PDT Martin Owens So I think we're 98% safe. 2020-03-29 15-45-02 PDT Martin Owens Sorry 2020-01-31 15-50-32 PST Martin Owens You'll have to give me some space, my country has just committed a slow suicide and I'm not feeling all that great. 2020-03-28 13-20-47 PDT Martin Owens With that fix, local testing on `inkex.paths` works as expected. I added `FOO =1; FOO=2` to paths to confirm it raises as expected. 2020-04-01 12-27-14 PDT Martin Owens The last directory seems a little overkill. /effect/color/less_saturation/less_saturation.inx I think it can just be /effect/color/less_saturation.inx 2020-04-01 12-12-13 PDT Martin Owens If the code is in the core extensions repository, they shouldn't be hidden (if they are, let me know) 2020-03-29 15-46-33 PDT Martin Owens Groups has also been renamed? 2020-03-02 08-55-37 PST Martin Owens But if you'll always be available to fix it ;-) 2020-03-28 12-47-47 PDT Martin Owens Of course, my code doesn't import inkex again, it RUNS inkex/__init__.py as a script. 2020-03-28 12-42-10 PDT Martin Owens I added in some pretend collisions, picked them up. 2020-03-30 12-07-11 PDT Martin Owens I do have a seperate question for you though 2020-03-28 12-24-09 PDT Martin Owens ```
from unittest import TestCase as BaseCase
import inkex
import inkex.elements
from inkex.utils import PY3
class MyGlobals(dict):
"""Python 3.3 and above globals dictionary"""
def __setitem__(self, name, value):
if name in self and value != self[name]:
raise KeyError("While importing {} the API name {} was imported twice".format(self['__name__'], name))
super(MyGlobals, self).__setitem__(name, value)
class TestModuleCollisions(BaseCase):
"""Test imports to make sure the API is clean"""
def assertNoCollisions(self, module): # pylint: disable=invalid-name
"""Make sure there are no API collisions in the give module on import"""
if not PY3:
self.skipTest("API testing python 3.3 and above only.")
with open(inkex.__file__, 'r') as fhl:
exec(fhl.read(), MyGlobals({'__name__': module.__name__})) # pylint: disable=exec-used
def test_inkex(self):
"""Test inkex API have no collisions"""
self.assertNoCollisions(inkex)
def test_inkex_elements(self):
"""Test elements API have no collisions"""
self.assertNoCollisions(inkex.elements)``` 2020-03-31 11-50-20 PDT Martin Owens Best place inside inkscape is the extensions chat channel though. More contextual. devel is mostly C++ 2020-03-28 11-17-12 PDT Martin Owens I would move it into a test. One the API is set, it doesn't have to check every inkex load, that's Kw of energy doing nothing on thousands of computers. But having the warning in the CI builder in a test, ideal IMO. 2020-03-04 07-31-40 PST Martin Owens Your thoughts would be welcome. 2020-03-28 11-00-05 PDT Martin Owens On review, the only item from `elements/base` that people would import directly is `load_svg` 2020-01-31 16-09-15 PST Martin Owens The common disquiet as it's known. 2020-01-31 16-30-59 PST Martin Owens Indeed it is 2020-03-04 08-04-35 PST Martin Owens Merged 2020-03-02 14-08-07 PST Martin Owens See the coverage label on this page? https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/ 2020-03-28 11-02-12 PDT Martin Owens A poem! 2020-02-07 08-44-04 PST Martin Owens No, just one pair of hands ;-) 2020-03-28 12-23-42 PDT Martin Owens OK I have a solution 2020-03-30 12-40-38 PDT Martin Owens The MR policy is lax, I think this is the first mistake. 2020-03-28 13-19-50 PDT Martin Owens Oh my code has a bug. `with open(inkex.__file__, 'r') as fhl` -> `with open(module.__file__, 'r') as fhl` 2020-03-29 15-28-18 PDT Martin Owens In the meantime, we can go ahead with your original MR without the checks to keep it all clean. 2020-04-01 12-20-47 PDT Martin Owens Because they are accessed via either the New from Template or the help menu 2020-03-30 12-02-49 PDT Martin Owens Yes, but underscoring modules is super rare outside of python proper. I figured I'd moved you to do something you wouldn't have done otherwise with my mistake. 2020-03-29 15-27-51 PDT Martin Owens I'm going to invite a third party who knows python to review both out solutions. I'll make a MR and I can send both links out. 2020-03-02 09-08-14 PST Martin Owens It's possible. I know I don't need a tool like this myself, because I don't interact with artefacts much. But the team that does is going to be the bug/issues team, since they like to bisect and download lots of versions. 2020-03-30 12-07-03 PDT Martin Owens I'm not sure how to break that down further. 2020-04-02 07-36-45 PDT Martin Owens If you like. Do you have a desired schedule to get it merged? 2020-03-04 07-28-20 PST Martin Owens Will you be at the meeting on Friday to discuss the 1.0 release? 2020-01-31 16-09-19 PST Martin Owens Interesting to hear. 2020-03-28 01-45-07 PDT Martin Owens There is a way 2020-02-07 08-44-36 PST Martin Owens Any chance I could get you to look at one of the items on this list: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/issues/136 ? 2020-01-31 15-50-05 PST Martin Owens s/busy/depressed/ 2020-01-31 16-29-43 PST Martin Owens by the way, delta is the right thing to use, it's just not scaled to the user units. 2020-03-29 15-30-31 PDT Martin Owens Yes, so long as `basics.py` is back to `base.py`, I think that was the only other issue. 2020-04-06 15-43-59 PDT Martin Owens I'm actually really impressed with your patience. Thank you for investing the time. I have the same feeling that I could have done the code, but at the same time this isn't going to fix anything really, it's a nice to have we can take our sweet time on. I'd only code it myself if Kristian went AWOL. 2020-01-31 16-03-41 PST Martin Owens Primal screams are primal screams. No one said it was supposed to /do/ anything. 2020-04-01 12-12-42 PDT Martin Owens If you mean extensions like the uniconverter extensions, those are abandoned/obsolete/rejected etc 2020-03-28 13-02-27 PDT Martin Owens Maybe add a comments about the fact this only works for setitem and not getitem? 2020-02-14 12-25-46 PST Martin Owens Thanks for the ping :-D 2020-03-29 15-43-07 PDT Martin Owens I thought `_base.py` was for `inkex/elements/base.py` I'm dead set against changing the name of `inkex/base.py` to anything. 2020-01-31 15-49-34 PST Martin Owens Hello 2020-03-04 07-29-44 PST Martin Owens Friday 6pm UTC in the developer chat 2020-04-01 12-29-57 PDT Martin Owens Each directory depth will slow inkscape's loading. 2020-03-28 10-57-50 PDT Martin Owens If a name change is required, I'd change `inkex/elements/base` rather than `inkex/base` just based on what we've asked extension developers to do when upgrading their extension. 2020-02-02 14-09-16 PST Martin Owens There's always room for perfection. I'm trying hard to make it the enemy of the good. 2020-02-07 08-42-39 PST Martin Owens I owe you those reviews, but I can't deliver right now. :-( 2020-03-28 11-00-29 PDT Martin Owens So this is reasonable so long as the import in `__init__` is the landing point for that anyway. 2020-03-04 08-05-35 PST Martin Owens Are you able to look at any of the issues on this list? https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/issues/136 2020-03-04 08-07-52 PST Martin Owens That's probably true. If boredom strikes ;-) 2020-01-28 18-55-50 PST Martin Owens No problem, good night! 2020-03-28 11-02-39 PDT Martin Owens And I agree 2020-03-02 08-53-42 PST Martin Owens I don't think so, I could check the stats on the website if you want. 2020-03-30 12-40-25 PDT Martin Owens Agreed 2020-03-28 01-52-09 PDT Martin Owens Convert them into sets and xor them. 2020-03-28 12-45-43 PDT Martin Owens Put a print in `__setitem__` it is running and it is testing. 2020-03-28 11-33-15 PDT Martin Owens It's the same same, since `from inkex import elements; elements.__dict__` is sort of the same as `from inkex.elements import *; globals()` except you don't get python builtins in the first one (except if you want them) 2020-04-10 09-25-54 PDT Martin Owens Should be May 4th ish. The RC1 is out now, so not too long. 2020-03-02 08-55-11 PST Martin Owens Theissue I see is maint burden; one of the reasons to use GitLab (and not host our own) is to reduce the amount of stuff we have to look after ourselves. 2020-02-21 13-15-14 PST Martin Owens Thanks. I'm still working on the canvas bug. Almost a week of research and poking. How's your programming? 2020-04-10 12-53-54 PDT Martin Owens No problem, though this kind of thing should be discussed in the public channels. 2020-03-28 12-42-50 PDT Martin Owens Sorry what's the initalize once problem? (I may have missed that one, sorry) 2020-03-28 12-47-54 PDT Martin Owens That's why it works. 2020-03-28 13-16-07 PDT Martin Owens paths isn't a module directory though, so it might have collisions. 2020-03-29 15-47-48 PDT Martin Owens Right we'll get this in as is. 2020-03-28 12-24-04 PDT Martin Owens This might seem mad, but it's a small codebase and covers quite a lot of ground without repetition: 2020-03-27 19-34-45 PDT Martin Owens If you're willing to help there. That would be great. 2020-03-30 12-14-15 PDT Martin Owens I'll personally shout at anyone who uses it. I'll find them on github and it will be all over for them! 2020-03-28 13-16-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov The was no error, but it should be 2020-01-31 16-09-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Hopefully society would evolve and we will be in better future 2020-03-29 12-30-04 PDT Sergei Izmailov Don't we use pytest? 2020-03-28 12-30-37 PDT Sergei Izmailov If only globals is provided, it must be a dictionary (and not a subclass of dictionary), 2020-04-06 09-40-50 PDT Sergei Izmailov (it's not an urgent question, take your time) 2020-04-01 12-22-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov yes 2020-02-07 08-42-25 PST Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/172 2020-04-06 09-38-02 PDT Sergei Izmailov Please tell how it looks from a side. 2020-04-06 09-32-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, seems like we have communication problem in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/184 2020-03-30 12-16-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov (if we mark submodules as implementation detail, of course) 2020-03-28 12-34-02 PDT Sergei Izmailov We can use regular dict and do check manually 2020-01-29 08-56-17 PST Sergei Izmailov added a couple of comments 2020-01-31 15-50-27 PST Sergei Izmailov don't be :) 2020-03-28 11-01-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov All elements submodules are pretty new, so number of people who already depend on `elements/base` should be very few. 2020-04-10 11-10-29 PDT Sergei Izmailov A (better) alternative would be to optimize inkscape for low-requirement set of options, but it seems to be a bit harder since it's bound to GIO and would require some architectural changes... 2020-03-28 13-01-21 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'll adapt your snippet and update MR 2020-01-31 15-52-34 PST Sergei Izmailov But I'm almost out reach for public news 2020-03-30 12-11-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov It's not about what they do. In python there is no way to keep user from doing any nasty things. All we can do is to draw line of our responsibility and guarantees we provide. 2020-03-28 10-56-32 PDT Sergei Izmailov WRT elements submodules. I find it useful to make it underscored. It's a usage restriction so we can move stuff around without breaking well-behaved user's code 2020-03-02 14-09-27 PST Sergei Izmailov it's an answer, not a question 2020-03-28 11-19-25 PDT Sergei Izmailov (it's non-trivial and ~~sometimes~~ most of time impossible to unload python module) 2020-02-21 13-00-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is another ping ;) 2020-04-01 02-21-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov What do you think? 2020-03-02 10-36-27 PST Sergei Izmailov thx 2020-01-31 16-05-20 PST Sergei Izmailov Just random freaks who decided to be against and made some hype. 2020-03-29 15-48-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sometimes it happens to all of us (humans) 2020-02-02 14-07-06 PST Sergei Izmailov I think I can help you fix it 2020-03-29 15-43-29 PDT Sergei Izmailov I didn't touch `inkex/base.py` at all 2020-04-01 02-20-10 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm going to sort out all stock extensions based on their type `effect/input/output` and sub-menu name.
For example `render_barcode.{inx,py}` are going to `stock/effect/barcode/classic/` 2020-01-31 15-49-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-02-02 14-12-17 PST Sergei Izmailov What do you look at 2020-03-28 11-34-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've pushed commit with this change 2020-03-29 15-46-50 PDT Sergei Izmailov All of `inkex/elements/*` 2020-01-30 03-12-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Added commits/comments, please take a look 2020-03-28 12-44-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov This means `exec` doesn't do much 2020-03-02 08-55-07 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you think about inconveniences you (and others) meet on daily basis that can be solved with extension/extra web page? 2020-03-28 11-37-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov no, of course 2020-03-30 12-05-33 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=3XZtMgFo4NxJeCf2P) What do you mean? () 2020-03-04 08-07-03 PST Sergei Izmailov I did take a look, but unresolved issues seems to be time-consuming and I don't really have too much spare time these days 2020-03-28 11-42-09 PDT Sergei Izmailov `tests/test_inkex.py` is a bit off-standard: it doesn't define test functions/methods, it causes top-level error on failure. But I think it's fine. 2020-03-29 15-28-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov I can withdraw "veryfy no name clash" from MR so we can address this separately 2020-03-30 12-01-18 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think it's bad decision. Looks like you ignored/didn't address my arguments.
The only use for public-available submodules of `inkex/elements/*` is `from inkex.elements.primitives import *` which is should be discouraged.
For regular imports `from inkex.elements import Group` is always preferable to `from inkex.elements.groups import Group`.
Anyhow by the of the day it's up to you. 2020-02-07 08-44-04 PST Sergei Izmailov Take you time. I'll keep pinging once a week :) 2020-03-28 12-45-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov I tried next snippet which is roughly what you have, right?
```
gl, loc = {}, {}
exec("import inkex", gl, loc)
print(dir(loc["inkex"]))
gl2, loc2 = {}, {}
exec("import inkex", gl2, loc2)
print(dir(loc2["inkex"]))
``` 2020-02-07 08-45-31 PST Sergei Izmailov I'll take a look 2020-01-31 15-53-27 PST Sergei Izmailov By the way, here in Russia, I don't feel like we are going in bright future either :) 2020-03-30 12-09-27 PDT Sergei Izmailov :) 2020-03-28 01-42-46 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=gnkKZk8bB2tGYrSXZ) Is there automated tool to verify?
I think there should be no conflict as the only thing was changed is content of `inkex.elements` now resides in `inkex` too, so it's very limited list to check. () 2020-02-02 14-12-49 PST Sergei Izmailov ? 2020-03-29 13-08-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've pushed updateв "dummy scheme" check. It's far from being perfect, but it's never false-negative. I think it's good enough for file that doesn't change often. 2020-03-28 12-52-34 PDT Sergei Izmailov ```python
import inkex
gl, loc = {}, {}
with open(inkex.__file__, 'r') as fhl:
exec (fhl.read(), gl, loc)
```
gives me
```
/usr/bin/python3.7 /home/sergei/CLionProjects/inkscape/share/extensions/TEMP2.py
:15: ImportWarning: can't resolve package from __spec__ or __package__, falling back on __name__ and __path__
/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/apport/report.py:13: DeprecationWarning: the imp module is deprecated in favour of importlib; see the module's documentation for alternative uses
import fnmatch, glob, traceback, errno, sys, atexit, locale, imp
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/sergei/CLionProjects/inkscape/share/extensions/TEMP2.py", line 4, in
exec (fhl.read(), gl, loc)
File "", line 15, in
KeyError: "'__name__' not in globals"
``` 2020-04-01 12-28-59 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think it's better to keep "extension-directory" structure even if it contains only two files (`.inx` and `.py` ) 2020-01-29 08-16-40 PST Sergei Izmailov Will you be here to give a quick feedback? 2020-04-01 02-18-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-01-28 13-57-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-03-02 14-16-15 PST Sergei Izmailov It doesn't require job id 2020-04-06 20-41-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov Thanks, I'm really on my limit.
May be I'll step aside from discussion. I think already said all I wanted to say (and at least you did understand me).
I can give a (final) code review tough. 2020-03-30 12-21-13 PDT Sergei Izmailov Again, it's minor thing, but I think it's worth to do it right. Let's ask someone else if we cannot converge on it. 2020-03-28 11-18-09 PDT Sergei Izmailov It can go to tests as well, right 2020-03-30 12-24-16 PDT Sergei Izmailov (or push-without-MR policy) 2020-03-27 19-53-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov I have two options: rely on python convention and make all non-underscore variables exported, or explicitly list everything in `__all__` 2020-01-31 16-03-16 PST Sergei Izmailov The cite from post-soviet KINO band 2020-03-29 15-30-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov probably we can merge it right away, right? 2020-03-02 14-15-54 PST Sergei Izmailov I've missed https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/api/jobs.html#download-a-single-artifact-file-fr… 2020-03-29 15-50-34 PDT Sergei Izmailov cool, thanks! 2020-03-02 14-18-23 PST Sergei Izmailov Don't spend time on it. I'm still not sure what it's for. If it's for web site only we can do arbitrary complex queries. 2020-02-28 07-31-28 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is one more ping 2020-03-02 09-02-07 PST Sergei Izmailov Please let me know if you think this extension is worth it and how and what we would improve with it. 2020-02-02 14-08-48 PST Sergei Izmailov I see your point. It's apparently works, performance greatly improved, so it might be not as important as many other things. 2020-03-27 19-56-14 PDT Sergei Izmailov Strictly speaking prefixing non-exported stuff with underscore would be a breaking change 2020-03-27 23-00-04 PDT Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/181 2020-01-31 16-30-35 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, good news about delta. :) 2020-03-29 15-30-48 PDT Sergei Izmailov Didn't we agree on `_base.py` ? 2020-02-21 17-57-31 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, thanks! The process is no fan, so it's easy to get close to apathy-like state, which slows process even further. Hopefully I will be able to finish it in two weeks from now. 2020-03-28 13-21-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov (I'm staying home, but still, i'm going :) 2020-01-31 15-49-49 PST Sergei Izmailov I know you are busy with many problems 2020-03-02 08-54-12 PST Sergei Izmailov It's not a problem to make two extensions for most popular browsers 2020-01-28 13-57-14 PST Sergei Izmailov Added some comments to MR 2020-04-06 09-34-45 PDT Sergei Izmailov I could have make my own MR in half of time I've already spent on the discussion, but I thought it would be worth to guide a new potential member of community. 2020-03-28 12-34-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov It means a bit of rewriting of `assertNoCollisions` 2020-03-28 12-43-49 PDT Sergei Izmailov It should be printed only once 2020-03-02 09-09-04 PST Sergei Izmailov Is there special channel? 2020-03-28 10-55-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've turned your idea with module inspection into robust procedure. We can be sure there is no name conflict and we are protected from future pitfalls. 2020-02-07 08-43-41 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok. I was afraid that something unspoken keeps you from review. 2020-04-01 12-31-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov We should sacrifice architecture last 2020-03-29 15-45-28 PDT Sergei Izmailov No problem, I should have accent your attention on it (I had impression you get me wrong) 2020-02-02 14-09-14 PST Sergei Izmailov But it still bothers me as we leave known bug without even note 2020-03-29 12-38-45 PDT Sergei Izmailov I appreciate that "dummy scheme" is not elegant, but it's robust and straightforward to maintain (although it's extra manual work). 2020-03-02 08-57-51 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm asking because there should be set of problems to solve. Otherwise it's just a play 2020-01-29 08-35-58 PST Sergei Izmailov I didn't start yet 2020-04-01 12-17-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov There are some
```
$ find stock -iname '*.inx' -exec grep --color " hidden=" {} +
stock/effect/inkscape_manual/inkscape_help_manual.inx:
stock/effect/envelope/template_envelope.inx:
stock/effect/follow_link/inkscape_follow_link.inx:
stock/effect/dvd_cover/template_dvd_cover.inx:
stock/effect/business_card/template_business_card.inx:
stock/effect/seamless_pattern/template_seamless_pattern.inx:
stock/effect/report_a_bug/inkscape_help_reportabug.inx:
stock/effect/blank_page/template_page.inx:
stock/effect/new_in_this_version/inkscape_help_relnotes.inx:
stock/effect/desktop/template_desktop.inx:
stock/effect/keys_and_mouse_reference/inkscape_help_keys.inx:
stock/effect/ask_us_a_question/inkscape_help_askaquestion.inx:
stock/effect/video_screen/template_video.inx:
stock/effect/icon/template_icon.inx:
stock/effect/svg_11_specification/inkscape_help_svgspec.inx:
stock/effect/command_line_options/inkscape_help_commandline.inx:
stock/effect/faq/inkscape_help_faq.inx:
stock/effect/generic_canvas/template_generic.inx:
stock/effect/embed_selected_images/embedselectedimages.inx:
``` 2020-04-01 12-30-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov Then directory walker should be optimized. 2020-01-31 16-28-39 PST Sergei Izmailov I know "there are people who suffer much more" never helps.
You are doing good valuable stuff and apparently you _enjoy it_. I think this should you keep you above depression level all the time you work :) 2020-03-28 11-37-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov damn 2020-03-28 11-43-12 PDT Sergei Izmailov I want to keep it as close to `inkex/__init__.py` as possible. Don't you think it's worth it? 2020-04-02 07-28-34 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, should I assign stock extension sort to you ? 2020-04-01 12-29-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov Otherwise it starts resemble existing pile of files 2020-02-14 10-37-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is weekly review-my-MRs ping :) 2020-01-28 18-43-17 PST Sergei Izmailov I hoped we could nail it down quickly, but now it's my turn to leave :) 2020-03-02 08-59-02 PST Sergei Izmailov Probably most of experienced people overcome it with their own tools/hacks. We can gather it, rework and provide a better tool 2020-04-10 10-54-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov (of course it would require changes in `.inx` file, but it's still less work than porting extension to python3, e.g. abandoned ones with no maintainer) 2020-03-02 14-19-10 PST Sergei Izmailov I was wondering if you know some well-hidden / undocumented feature 2020-03-30 12-07-37 PDT Sergei Izmailov go ahead 2020-03-28 13-16-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov As it should be equivalent to star import 2020-02-07 08-42-27 PST Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/170 2020-02-02 14-05-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-02-21 16-18-31 PST Sergei Izmailov Almost nohow wrt inkscape. I'm rushing my thesis, I have almost no spare time these days. 2020-03-27 17-19-08 PDT Sergei Izmailov I can create a MR to address `__all__` issue + importability of any component from head `inkex`. Those two seems to be coupled enough to go in single MR. 2020-04-10 11-11-11 PDT Sergei Izmailov While I was writing this I realized that latter is the right way to go. Sorry for bothering you :( 2020-03-30 12-16-06 PDT Sergei Izmailov If they do and then things break it's THEIR fault, not ours 2020-03-30 12-18-41 PDT Sergei Izmailov I want to provide reach API with minimum possible guarantees.
Submoudles structure doesn't contribute to API/convenience, so should be hidden. 2020-03-28 11-34-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/181/diffs?commit_id… 2020-03-02 09-00-41 PST Sergei Izmailov It could be there is no common denominator in community and workflow pattern is hairy and differ from one person to another. 2020-03-02 14-10-42 PST Sergei Izmailov I was thinking about more reliable way to do `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/master/download?job=appimage%3Alinux` 2020-03-28 10-58-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm for `inkex/elements/base` -> `inkex/elements/_base` 2020-03-28 12-30-43 PDT Sergei Izmailov https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#exec 2020-03-28 10-59-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov So we use "base" name secretly within `elements` for private needs 2020-03-31 11-44-36 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm not sure I can (should) push to your MR branch, so I've added a couple of comments with minor changes. 2020-01-29 08-36-04 PST Sergei Izmailov I'll do in hour or two 2020-03-28 11-28-32 PDT Sergei Izmailov True, but I would prefer to keep it in `import *` style to ease sync 2020-01-31 15-49-59 PST Sergei Izmailov ? 2020-03-04 07-24-42 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok, I'll do. 2020-03-30 12-23-17 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=XwAigzgntR2zTbs5J) Seems to be a problem. () 2020-01-31 15-54-20 PST Sergei Izmailov My current "plan" is simple. Just outlive idiots in the government 2020-03-29 12-36-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov I don't understand your approach.
You are executing statements from module line by line. But module contains relative paths to other modules. It doesn't work like that.
Hot-patching source is not a reliable procedure. I feel more comfortable with dummy scheme I use right now (copy-paste imports & add checking commands) 2020-04-01 11-23-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov This restructuring is not free, it needs extensive testing as many extensions rely one on another and particular file structure which is disturbed now.
I think it's not a bad idea to hold it until 1.y (it's potentially buggy infrastructural change with near-zero value to end users). 2020-01-31 16-02-21 PST Sergei Izmailov Pussy riot didn't change a thing. In their confrontation there was no good side. 2020-03-02 14-11-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Sometimes it's a 404 for no obvious reason 2020-04-01 04-59-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov Here is preliminary layout https://gitlab.com/sizmailov/extensions/-/tree/sort-stock-extensions/stock 2020-03-02 08-53-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Is firefox primary browser in inskcape community? 2020-02-02 14-14-25 PST Sergei Izmailov The testing part is no obvious to me 2020-03-02 08-50-32 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm not really familiar with reporters workflow, but I guess they have to download bundles quite often.
I've build a chrome extension to augment every comment-link with direct link to appimage artefact. It's not a whole lot of time saving, but still, it's 1 click instead of 5. I think I can make it work for Mac and WIndows as well.
https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/F3rsGK8BJtAoz5NjY/AppImage%20links
Moini mentioned another problem: publish most recent master/1.0 branch artifact link on web site, etc.
What do you think. Can we simplify reporter/tester workflow a bit? 2020-03-02 14-12-03 PST Sergei Izmailov What you suggest requires predictable file name, but it's not for inkscape bundles 2020-04-01 11-28-57 PDT Sergei Izmailov Are they abandoned/obsolete/not (yet) working? 2020-02-07 08-45-53 PST Sergei Izmailov (without promise to do anything so far) 2020-03-28 13-21-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sorry, need to go. I'll get back to it tomorrow 2020-03-02 14-13-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Yes 2020-04-01 12-21-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov Templates probably should go to `stock/template` instead of `stock/effect` 2020-03-28 11-45-49 PDT Sergei Izmailov Right 2020-03-04 07-28-52 PST Sergei Izmailov meeting happens in chat? 2020-03-28 11-38-52 PDT Sergei Izmailov (fixed) 2020-03-04 08-04-51 PST Sergei Izmailov Cool 2020-04-10 10-52-51 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi!
What do you think about setting a couple of env variables in inkscape?
They can be used to enable python2-only extensions within inkscape-1.0 environment.
**Variables set by inkscape:**
```bash
INKSCAPE_SYSTEM_DIR=...
INKSCAPE_USER_DIR=...
```
Then we can turn python2 extension into a bash extension via simple wrapper script:
```bash
export PYTHONPATH="$INKSCAPE_SYSTEM_DIR/extensions/deprecated-simple:$INKSCAPE_USER_DIR/extensions"
my/path/to/python2 $@
``` 2020-03-27 22-59-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov It turned out that core change is really small as you already had almost everything in place 2020-03-28 13-16-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov This is silly 2020-04-01 11-28-07 PDT Sergei Izmailov By the way what is the status of "hidden" extensions? 2020-02-02 14-07-33 PST Sergei Izmailov (if you plan to work on it next days) 2020-03-04 08-08-27 PST Sergei Izmailov I do something here and there to have a brake with my thesis 2020-04-01 12-30-11 PDT Sergei Izmailov By how much? 2020-03-02 08-51-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Extension is most powerful tool available, but it's not as flexible as curated self-hosted web-page. 2020-03-28 13-15-52 PDT Sergei Izmailov this should give an error, right? 2020-02-02 14-47-06 PST Sergei Izmailov ok, thanks 2020-03-02 14-14-50 PST Sergei Izmailov `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/456464633/artifacts/raw/Inkscape-2a7dc7f-x86_64.AppImage` does the trick, but it requires job id and commit sha 2020-03-02 14-09-19 PST Sergei Izmailov oh, 2020-03-31 11-46-45 PDT Sergei Izmailov I was talking about https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/182 2020-03-28 12-42-00 PDT Sergei Izmailov I mean the "initialize once" problem is still there 2020-01-29 08-16-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm going to submit a couple of improvements to inkex today 2020-03-31 11-47-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've seen your revert, thanks for reassessing. Probably I've turned too early to others 2020-03-29 15-45-06 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've pushed rebased version without name clash checks, please see 2020-04-02 07-37-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov Not really. But it's always better earlier than later. 2020-03-27 19-54-40 PDT Sergei Izmailov It can be mixed solution, i.e. we can rely on convention in one module and redefine `__all__` in another one 2020-03-27 17-14-37 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi!
Do you plan to do followup to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/178 ?
2020-01-29 08-36-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Let me look at MR 2020-03-02 13-13-04 PST Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=uf8ja8aukNfDiz8ZD) What is it? () 2020-03-04 07-17-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, can you have another look at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/170 ? 2020-01-31 15-49-59 PST Sergei Izmailov Would you find a minute to review MRs 2020-04-01 12-32-51 PDT Sergei Izmailov We *may* sacrifice it, but as a last resort. 2020-03-04 07-30-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Not sure how helpful would I be, but ok, I'll try to attend 2020-04-01 02-21-28 PDT Sergei Izmailov Deep subdirectories seems to be already supported in master, (didn't test 1.0) 2020-03-30 12-13-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov 1) I did a clean up. And no extension currently use elements submodule explicitly
2) It's about guarantees we make, not about what people do 2020-03-04 07-29-16 PST Sergei Izmailov In principle I think I can be there 2020-02-02 14-06-22 PST Sergei Izmailov GUI testing is not fast and easy 2020-03-29 15-47-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think it's better to keep this split an "implementation detail" 2020-01-31 15-50-56 PST Sergei Izmailov May I ask you where are you from? 2020-03-02 14-09-31 PST Sergei Izmailov ;) 2020-01-28 18-44-51 PST Sergei Izmailov I think I'll be back in 15 hours or so. See you 2020-03-02 14-08-32 PST Sergei Izmailov yep 2020-04-01 12-22-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov See the link above 2020-03-28 11-18-55 PDT Sergei Izmailov Python modules are loaded once no matter what 2020-03-29 12-39-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov We can add extra check that all import statements from `inkex/__init__.py` present in `tests/test_inkex.py` 2020-02-07 08-42-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you give a review for extension MRs ? 2020-03-28 10-57-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov I don't think it's really feasible, let me try 2020-02-02 14-12-09 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you describe how you test it 2020-04-01 05-01-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov There is plenty of clean-up and checks to be done, but alreay you can see the picture in broad lines 2020-03-30 12-15-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov Seems like you didn't get it. Its up to user to rely on submodule structure or not. 2020-03-30 12-23-52 PDT Sergei Izmailov Probably it's a sign to revise list of high-privilege members of all repos 2020-04-06 09-33-18 PDT Sergei Izmailov Are my comments illiterate rubbish and no one can read it? 2020-01-31 16-02-51 PST Sergei Izmailov Some may support them because
"Those who are against those who are against us
Can't cope with them without us" 2020-03-04 07-52-33 PST Sergei Izmailov Force-push of rebased commits wiped out your approval. 2020-03-28 11-18-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov The main issue - testing "the right thing". 2020-02-02 14-06-13 PST Sergei Izmailov I want to help with bbox MR, but I'm really limited in time 2020-04-10 05-52-55 PDT Sergei Izmailov ok, no problem. What is 1.0 release date by the way? 2020-03-28 12-43-33 PDT Sergei Izmailov Add `print(__name__, "init complete")` to the end of `inkex/__init__.py` 2020-03-28 01-44-51 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'll check it one more time manually today and let you know. 2020-03-29 12-30-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov I mean your example seems to be based on unittest 2020-03-30 12-09-02 PDT Sergei Izmailov No, should I? 2020-03-28 13-15-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov ```
def test_inkex_paths(self):
"""Test path API have no collisions"""
self.assertNoCollisions(inkex.paths)
``` 2020-04-10 04-53-11 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi,
just wanted to remind you about extension sort MR (it awaits your review) 2020-03-04 07-22-45 PST Sergei Izmailov Although changes must be well-reviewed 2020-03-29 15-43-50 PDT Sergei Izmailov All discussion was about `inkex/elements/*` 2020-03-28 12-55-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov Ok, seems to be hacky, but working solution 2020-03-04 07-25-50 PST Sergei Izmailov I know it's not fun to keep updating your extension which did work yesterday, but it's cost of keeping up with latest chagnes 2020-03-27 17-16-01 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think can help there (along the lines of my comment to !178). 2020-03-04 07-22-11 PST Sergei Izmailov That's why it's better to do sooner than later. 2020-04-10 10-58-09 PDT Sergei Izmailov It's almost equivalent to calling `inkscape --system-data-director`, but it takes more than 0.1 second on my machine which is a lot for such a simple operation. 2020-02-02 14-46-17 PST Sergei Izmailov By box you mean dashed selection line, right? 2020-03-27 20-01-20 PDT Sergei Izmailov Probably prefixing with underscore is more about making parts of API "private", probably should be addressed in separate MR 2020-01-28 13-57-24 PST Sergei Izmailov We can discuss if you are still there. 2020-03-30 12-14-59 PDT Sergei Izmailov Being nice to everyone is not possible. Sometimes you have to tell people they are wrong. That's how they mature and grow as programmers 2020-03-28 11-20-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm going to move all this fortification to tests, so we don't have overhead in inkex 2020-03-30 12-10-20 PDT Sergei Izmailov What would people copy and paste? 2020-03-02 09-04-33 PST Sergei Izmailov Sorry for bothering you in person, but the comment in dev chat got no reaction. May be it's worth waiting with this discussion until May 2020-02-07 08-41-48 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-01-31 16-07-38 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm a bit out of trend, but currently I don't see some who actively do riot performances.
It feels like almost everyone does a bit. 2020-03-28 10-53-56 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-03-04 07-27-39 PST Sergei Izmailov As long it's beta it's permissible, once 1.0 released we have some obligations. 2020-01-31 16-08-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Even one who used to be completely apolitical starting making some claims 2020-03-04 07-26-40 PST Sergei Izmailov inkscape itself changes CLI and probably other public interfaces 2020-04-01 12-33-20 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sure, this project is not nearly ready to review 2020-01-29 10-24-54 PST Sergei Izmailov Sorry, already getting sleepy. Probably I'll be unable to submit today, probably in next couple of days 2020-01-31 15-52-06 PST Sergei Izmailov One of the last countries I would think as "suicidal" 2020-03-28 11-13-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=WRgATvvaE4ZyyfSYt) Ok, it's possible but we have to repeat everything from `inkex/__init__.py` in test function, it's not bad on it's own, but the question how to keep it in sync? At least we can place a comment to `inkex/__init__.py` to reflect changes in corresponding test file () 2020-03-28 12-41-40 PDT Sergei Izmailov Did you test it? 2020-04-02 07-39-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov Maybe someone (including me) will fix some bugs in core extensions.
It's better to avoid extra rebases/merge conflicts
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