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2020-04-25 14-07-30 PDT Moini Hi Kirstie! The Vectors team is looking for some Inkscape contributor stories. If you're up to it, I'd like to invite you for our Contributors' interview at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 10 Messages, 0 Files, 773053 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: alex.ronke & doctormo
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29 Apr '21

2019-11-08 20-54-38 PST Martin Owens Interesting. Not sure about the app, I use the website for my laptop and the app pulled in all the channels I was already subscribed to 2019-11-08 20-53-02 PST Martin Owens Hello Alex, glad you could make it here to the chat room. Thanks for coming in. 2019-11-08 20-54-52 PST Martin Owens Can you click on #team_devel 2019-11-08 20-53-57 PST Alex Ronke I’ve installed the Rocket.Chat app, and that’s what I’m using here, but it’s not showing me a list of channels for this server 2019-11-08 19-47-05 PST Alex Ronke Hey, this is NoPunIn10Did from the forum 2019-11-08 20-54-19 PST Alex Ronke Is that a problem with the app, or do I lack permission? 2019-11-08 20-54-32 PST Alex Ronke All I see is #inkscape_user 2019-11-08 21-36-53 PST Alex Ronke The app may not be properly configured to show me a list of channels I haven’t joined yet 2019-11-08 19-47-51 PST Alex Ronke I had the question a long while back about NV path rendering 2019-11-08 21-36-18 PST Alex Ronke That worked

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 150 Messages, 2 Files, 1365476 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: doctormo & bryce
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2019-11-18 14-16-15 PST Martin Owens Do you remember who added the DKIM to our mailing list server's DNS? I need some advice. 2019-01-17 12-45-07 PST Martin Owens Maybe things like proton need a helping hand? (Or inkscape should think again about hiring?) 2018-10-09 09-14-56 PDT Martin Owens Priority One request: How long does it take to move the inkscape.org dns to a new host? 2019-01-17 12-53-15 PST Martin Owens (also asking if people would be put out by it) 2018-09-23 14-39-24 PDT Martin Owens So do we remove 117 from being linked from +inkscape? 2018-10-07 12-15-23 PDT Martin Owens If you can get me a cert for test.inkscape.org too, that would be awesome. 2018-09-23 14-53-21 PDT Martin Owens nice. 2019-07-12 11-40-18 PDT Martin Owens We can pick this up later if we need to. This forums issue will get resolved for sure. 2018-09-23 14-53-25 PDT Martin Owens thanks bryce 2018-09-23 11-03-58 PDT Martin Owens I'm hoping we can have a quick chat about the exchange I've had with Grady. 2019-07-12 11-36-21 PDT Martin Owens There was no changes, just a feature request. 2020-01-24 15-43-25 PST Martin Owens I also wanted to add an appologie if I stressed you out with pushing for backup people for some of the jobs. It's my greatest hope that you continue with inkscape leadership, my fear over what I remember the effects of canonical employment biases my mood but that's not your fault at all. 2019-01-17 12-55-00 PST Martin Owens https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/mull 2018-09-23 14-22-38 PDT Martin Owens The owner of the group hasn't been active on the internet for 2 years, so it's unsure if the group is actually unattended. 2018-10-09 15-34-36 PDT Martin Owens You looking for more Open Source work? (I assume full employment is your default) 2020-09-25 16-02-05 PDT Martin Owens Hi Bryce, let me know if you're available for a chat at some point. 2018-10-09 15-27-40 PDT Martin Owens sorry to hear that. 2019-04-08 07-45-42 PDT Martin Owens Off the public record, I've been having a lot of trouble with Moini and Patrick; trying to put a stop to the extensions development and revert to 0.92 extensions (because everything worked back then!) and I'm worried that the project doesn't see any value in the massive amounts of work I've put in trying to do this hard thing. I know this is paranoid which is why I tell you in confidence that I'm worried that unless the extensions are PERFECT, then there will be a call for reversion to get the release out. 2018-09-23 14-42-21 PDT Martin Owens Yes, which is what Chris will be asked to applogise for. I think he thought the group was official. 2019-01-17 12-53-04 PST Martin Owens They won't be as or near SCALE right, so next face to face is probably LibrePlanet 2019. I think the burning questions are just how much money Inkscape as a project should have for a year scale hiring. And if we should put it to the community as a project we may want to work on. 2018-10-07 12-15-10 PDT Martin Owens Could you create `test.inkscape.org` and point it at `inkscape1.osuosl.org`, I want to rule out cert issues with 140.211.9.79 but I can't because I don't control the DNS 2018-09-23 11-03-41 PDT Martin Owens Morning bryce. 2018-09-23 14-23-41 PDT Martin Owens That would be a trademark problem, someone pretending to be Inkscape while hating us. 2018-11-20 20-57-45 PST Martin Owens Hi bryce. We've got pretty much all the features requested for the forums. Have a look. 2018-09-23 14-21-26 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Bryce. It good to be validated somewhat, with all the patience it takes to receive what is basically abuse. But attempt to keep things on track. 2018-09-23 14-38-37 PDT Martin Owens Oh I see how it works, it's attached 2019-07-12 11-40-01 PDT Martin Owens No, I understand you're trying to help. I thought I had a better reputation than evidenced above. 2018-09-23 14-51-52 PDT Martin Owens and printing 2019-03-07 17-38-38 PST Martin Owens I'm betting Patrick feels somewhat protective of Thomas. 2018-09-23 17-42-41 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Bryce! 2019-07-12 11-37-13 PDT Martin Owens You seem to be attacking me. Which isn't helpful. 2019-01-17 12-43-19 PST Martin Owens Have you the skills for this new fen-dangled xorg replacement? 2019-01-17 12-42-57 PST Martin Owens :whale: 2018-10-07 12-15-37 PDT Martin Owens But maybe for now I'll revert everything to inkscape.org and change my host 2018-09-23 14-51-27 PDT Martin Owens Just sent you a draft email 2019-07-12 11-35-44 PDT Martin Owens I'm not going to touch the issue to be fair. 2018-11-20 20-58-08 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-20 23-55-11.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/GFr8oy7sBa5NjseKf/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2018-09-23 14-45-15 PDT Martin Owens Aye 2018-09-23 14-23-24 PDT Martin Owens My second tier concern is that if Grady is mentally unstable, then he'll continue to act with poor judgement,but look like he's acting for Inkscape. 2018-10-09 15-22-53 PDT Martin Owens 140.211.9.79 2019-01-17 12-55-21 PST Martin Owens Don't mind me, I treat English like python, weirdly and untested. :wink: 2018-09-23 14-34-56 PDT Martin Owens Do we specify at all? 2018-09-23 17-42-38 PDT Martin Owens Email sent, all your suggestions added and a bit added to the first paragraph. 2018-09-23 14-35-24 PDT Martin Owens We have processes in Vectors to publish things in channels, one of those is G+ 2018-09-23 14-37-28 PDT Martin Owens I believe those records might not be complete. 2018-09-23 14-22-02 PDT Martin Owens I agree with both your assessment of the technicals and the likely most effective political solution. 2018-09-23 14-51-48 PDT Martin Owens Please do, any information is good. I remember some things about color profiles. 2019-03-25 04-32-43 PDT Martin Owens Looks like we have our first spammer natash223, please delete. 2018-09-24 07-51-52 PDT Martin Owens Excellent (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/PZdv6f5xrTDKstSaP/Excellent) 2018-09-23 14-41-06 PDT Martin Owens OK. Sounds good 2018-11-20 21-00-14 PST Martin Owens So I'm hoping I can get some backing, at least in terms of giving it a serious go. (or at least less negativity for our website) 2018-10-09 15-43-31 PDT Martin Owens No permission to see it, but that's ok. 2018-10-09 15-33-25 PDT Martin Owens That sounds bad; both for yourself, but also for open source in general. 2018-09-23 14-32-16 PDT Martin Owens It's the worst solution for sure 2019-01-17 12-42-06 PST Martin Owens Hope all is well, did you manage to get a new job? 2018-09-23 14-53-47 PDT Martin Owens the trick is to use solar pannels 2018-10-09 15-23-29 PDT Martin Owens The DNS stuff is tightly centrally managed. How can we share this administration? 2018-09-23 14-30-22 PDT Martin Owens Do we monitor the siutation? If we have a CoC, but people can just be utter jerks because they're a part of a seperated republic, then it really doesn't do much. 2018-10-07 12-19-18 PDT Martin Owens Actually scrap all that, we can stick to the plan of setting up `staging.inkscape.org` later and make sure this machines gets to be inkscape.org 2020-04-28 07-37-07 PDT Martin Owens How you doing bryce? All quiet on the Ubuntu front so I take it a successful LTS? (not sure if Canonical are working on owt else) 2018-10-09 15-20-01 PDT Martin Owens Can you do that? The goal is 2018-10-11T14:00:00+0 or there abouts. 2018-11-20 20-59-03 PST Martin Owens I don't want the same nay-saying that killed the forum last time to drag this effort down again. 2020-01-25 13-36-41 PST Martin Owens Not sure if you intended to reply in public. :scream_cat: thanks bryce. 2018-10-09 15-27-16 PDT Martin Owens you seem super busy, everything ok? 2019-01-17 12-48-50 PST Martin Owens I think so. Is this something we've brought up with the conservancy before? Rather than just a contract? 2019-01-17 12-54-04 PST Martin Owens Consider them mull enabled. 2018-10-09 15-13-42 PDT Martin Owens That's really slow, could we possibly have the website down for 24 hours? 2018-09-23 14-35-34 PDT Martin Owens We can't publish to +inkscape, because that name's taken. 2019-01-17 12-47-07 PST Martin Owens The hurdles for Inkscape are health inssurance and pay stability over a set period right. 2019-01-17 12-54-46 PST Martin Owens to mull something over. 2018-09-23 14-35-52 PDT Martin Owens So do we specify that we do not operate a G+ community so everyone knows to stay away? 2018-10-09 15-37-08 PDT Martin Owens That's what it looked like at DevConf, they couldn't stop talking about it. 2019-03-07 17-38-21 PST Martin Owens I don't think it's a chewing and more of a momma bear situation. 2019-04-08 07-59-34 PDT Martin Owens calling 2020-01-24 15-41-31 PST Martin Owens Hi Bryce. I'm checking in to see how your doing, personally and with the new job. I don't know if we ever gave you a proper appologie for fucking up the SFC hiring so badly. I feel like I didn't step up to break the catch22 enough within the time we had, and I greatly regret it. 2018-09-23 14-55-19 PDT Martin Owens lol, I do the mech +speed, although it's nurfed now 2018-10-09 15-27-03 PDT Martin Owens thanks 2019-07-12 11-19-13 PDT Martin Owens I'm actually at a loss there, I've stepped back and looked, but all I get is more confused. It just doesn't add up. 2018-10-09 15-35-47 PDT Martin Owens Did you checkout RedHat? 2018-09-23 14-33-51 PDT Bryce Harrington if it's a community we have no ownership of, I'm not sure we have responsibility or authority to deal with problems arising on it 2018-09-23 12-17-02 PDT Bryce Harrington anyway, thanks again for taking the lead here; in the future try to loop me in prior to starting the engagement, I can probably give better advice at that point. 2018-09-23 14-35-07 PDT Bryce Harrington how do you mean? 2018-09-23 14-42-08 PDT Bryce Harrington thinking 2018-09-23 12-09-04 PDT Bryce Harrington the Chris that he had the earlier run in with was a completely different Chris, a german named Christoffer Holmstedt 2018-10-09 15-26-56 PDT Bryce Harrington I've sent off the request. 2019-04-08 07-52-41 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah I think I can understand everyone's feelings here 2018-09-23 12-00-47 PDT Bryce Harrington we probably should have had a chat prior to the initial engagement; I could have given you some additional background and maybe steered you on a better path 2019-01-17 12-42-21 PST Bryce Harrington no new job yet :-/ 2018-09-23 14-32-18 PDT Bryce Harrington I hear you... but we can't police the internet obviously, so there's going to have to be some boundary 2019-01-17 12-46-26 PST Bryce Harrington working for Inkscape would be great, yeah. I don't know much about proton. 2018-09-23 14-37-00 PDT Bryce Harrington in my records I show we have two G+ channels, one is +inkscape, the other is this community group 2019-07-12 11-35-05 PDT Bryce Harrington For now, wait on Josh's guidance. But beyond that I would suggest to try and focus on finding your common ground - what is the bigger picture you two are 100% in agreement on, what goals do you both share, and work from there. Establish that and build from there, don't get stuck on the weeds and let things get derailed on parts that are just confused. 2019-01-17 12-51-10 PST Bryce Harrington not formally, no. I did have lunch with Bradly last month and we touched on employing developers for funded development work, and I mentioned healthcare being something we couldn't provide and he handwaved that there were ways to address that. I didn't get into any details though. 2018-09-23 14-41-33 PDT Bryce Harrington we should probably keep in mind here, Chris wasn't acting in an official capacity for Inkscape, so technically we don't have a beef with the group, it's just a personal dust up between him and one of their moderators 2019-01-17 12-42-46 PST Bryce Harrington I applied to rejoin canonical but I think the skills they're looking for are not X.org/graphics 2019-03-07 17-53-34 PST Bryce Harrington could be, whatever the case, I find it hard to not be annoying to him. :-/ 2018-09-23 14-28-36 PDT Bryce Harrington the group lists quite a few moderators, and even if the owner is inactive I don't think that means we should step in. The moderators of that group can determine what they want to do themselves. 2019-04-08 07-57-29 PDT Bryce Harrington it does sound like a very hard thing, and I suspect that's what's worrying about people - we expect this to be really challenging to pull off well, and there's probably a very high risk of unexpected issues 2018-09-23 11-59-26 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks for ccing me in the discussions; you're doing a good job dealing with the situation. 2018-10-09 15-35-14 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah hoping to stay with open source in some form 2018-09-23 12-09-29 PDT Bryce Harrington he's actually a member of Scribus, not Inkscape, and hasn't participated any further with us since that dust up (unfortunately) 2018-09-23 12-10-14 PDT Bryce Harrington maybe Grady has PTSD about Chrisses. ;-) 2018-09-23 14-42-40 PDT Bryce Harrington I did as well, although I thought it was owned by Josh. 2018-09-23 11-58-41 PDT Bryce Harrington hi martin 2018-09-23 12-07-13 PDT Bryce Harrington so.... if this is true, I'm not sure we have authority over how they run the group. And if Chris was participating there of his own accord and not as a representative of Inkscape, then I'm not sure we have any role at all in this matter. However, since Chris' posts were deleted I have no ability to verify what was said or done. 2018-09-23 12-19-52 PDT Bryce Harrington as to how to clean this up... ideally I think a sincere apology from Chris would be in the works - if only because even though he wasn't acting as a board member, fact is he is one, so it reflects poorly on the project. You're probably right this may be a tough thing to ask though, but in an ideal world that's the diplomatic course. 2019-01-17 12-47-47 PST Bryce Harrington probably more the latter. I could stay on COBRA for a while still 2019-07-12 11-41-07 PDT Bryce Harrington Yes, hopefully Josh can give some useful guidance. 2019-03-07 17-35-07 PST Bryce Harrington ugh, I hate getting chewed out by patrick 2018-09-23 12-05-08 PDT Bryce Harrington I looked at the G+ group in question - I don't recognize the names of any of the moderators, and it is owned by some russian guy. I had in my notes that Josh was the admin, but that appears not to be the case. I don't know what the history of the group is but as it's configured currently, Grady's right this seems to be a completely independent group from us 2018-10-09 15-27-21 PDT Bryce Harrington no 2018-09-23 12-08-02 PDT Bryce Harrington however, there is one point of confusion, that's a bit humorous even though it's the cause of some stress for Grady 2019-04-08 07-55-21 PDT Bryce Harrington there is no doubt that you do massive amounts of work, it's always impressive 2018-09-23 14-40-50 PDT Bryce Harrington maybe, but it might be too rash to do it right this moment, there is still a question of what *they* want the relationship to be 2019-01-17 12-45-04 PST Bryce Harrington but yeah I have useful experience in that area, just not the hard core internals 2019-07-12 11-38-05 PDT Bryce Harrington sorry, I'm trying to offer constructive criticism but perhaps this is not the time or place for that 2018-09-23 14-54-07 PDT Bryce Harrington she likes grenades 2018-09-23 14-31-18 PDT Bryce Harrington fwiw, I really don't like the idea of using the trademark as a cudgel to force communities to do things. I saw that used back in my D&D days against communities I was involved in, and it created a humongous amount of ill will. 2018-10-09 15-36-33 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, first place I applied to. They're staffing up on kubernetes mostly 2018-09-23 14-28-57 PDT Bryce Harrington if we were to push ourselves on them, given this situation, it would really blow up. 2019-07-12 11-36-33 PDT Bryce Harrington Martin, you need to remember that you *pushed* to take over implementing the forum, rather than using something off the shelf, so you have some responsibility here to make sure things go well 2019-04-08 07-52-50 PDT Bryce Harrington do you want to phone me? if you do, 503.524.2655. 2018-09-23 22-01-32 PDT Bryce Harrington nicely done, appears to have worked as planned 2019-07-12 11-35-51 PDT Bryce Harrington understand your own personality too - think of other instances where you've had differences of opinions or where your changes have upset someone, and how those got resolved 2018-09-23 14-33-07 PDT Bryce Harrington if we own a community site, then we definitely have CoC oversight duties. No question there 2019-07-12 11-38-21 PDT Bryce Harrington besides, I don't know any specifics about the issue in question 2018-09-23 14-44-59 PDT Bryce Harrington I wish Josh was more active, it'd be useful to get his input on the ownership sitch 2018-10-09 15-22-23 PDT Bryce Harrington maybe, I got a lot going on right now. what's the new IP? 2018-09-23 12-03-41 PDT Bryce Harrington maybe in the future we can make it a policy to discuss what to do beforehand. Might help ensure we have all the right facts and a good strategy 2018-09-23 15-47-03 PDT Bryce Harrington I had said Chris Holmstedt earlier, but actually you're right it was Christoph Schafer 2018-10-09 15-19-22 PDT Bryce Harrington might be quicker during business hours or if we pre-arrange it 2018-10-09 13-54-27 PDT Bryce Harrington osuosl seems to handle dns requests within about 24 hrs 2018-09-23 14-47-57 PDT Bryce Harrington were you following the prior incident? I can give you the reader's digest version 2020-04-28 11-40-27 PDT Bryce Harrington yep 2019-01-17 12-53-06 PST Bryce Harrington I do have ideas on how to strengthen our sponsorship systems, and maybe some new avenues to look for money, like grant programs and so on. Would take a lot of work to solicit sponsors but it wouldn't take too many more sponsors to get us to the level we need to be 2019-01-17 12-53-25 PST Bryce Harrington right 2019-01-17 12-55-02 PST Bryce Harrington ahhh 2018-09-23 14-21-47 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah 2019-01-17 12-44-35 PST Bryce Harrington I doubt I'll take a job working on wayland. It's too niche and honestly there's not much needing to be done at that level. 2019-07-12 11-37-18 PDT Bryce Harrington it may be that you're right, but you need to get people on the same page with you first, not just bull ahead knowing you're right 2018-09-23 12-21-19 PDT Bryce Harrington if the group is indeed unaffiliated with Inkscape and wishes no official ties with us, then it would probably be appropriate to recognize that, and for you to apologize for overstepping any boundaries out of our misunderstanding of our relationship with their group (or something to that effect). 2019-01-17 12-53-44 PST Bryce Harrington all good questions, I don't know the answer to 2018-09-23 12-17-51 PDT Bryce Harrington you're doing a remarkably good job, better than I probably would, but I think in this case maybe a different angle on it would have worked better. 2019-01-17 12-43-49 PST Bryce Harrington I got kind of sidetracked due to my mom's funeral, and then the inkscape release. There's always something to consume free time. 2018-10-09 15-42-17 PDT Bryce Harrington RT support.osuosl.org #30323 2019-01-17 12-48-21 PST Bryce Harrington I imagine the actual employment would be through Conservancy? so maybe they'd have a solution for that 2018-09-23 12-24-58 PDT Bryce Harrington IMHO, #1 priority here is to not leave any bad blood. We may need the goodwill of this group in the future (I'm thinking of a company whose name begins with W), so better to let Grady save face and back out of the situation, then to push ahead and maybe make things worse. 2018-09-23 14-53-09 PDT Bryce Harrington ok in a bit; daughter just got home and wants to play factorio 2018-10-09 15-32-58 PDT Bryce Harrington Samsung is shutting down its Open Source department, so been busy with job hunt stuff. 2019-01-17 12-54-29 PST Bryce Harrington mull?

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 146 Messages, 0 Files, 1158043 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: levent & doctormo
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2019-05-12 14-31-25 PDT Martin Owens Also good, in turkish? 2019-05-15 14-39-06 PDT Martin Owens Upload to inkscape.org as special gallery file for download. Ask readers to use it for consistent translation. 2019-05-12 14-19-08 PDT Martin Owens How long have you been waiting? 2019-05-15 14-34-23 PDT Martin Owens How you make book for sell? 2019-05-15 16-40-36 PDT Martin Owens I am back. 2019-05-15 14-35-41 PDT Martin Owens So which operating system will you focus on? 2019-05-15 14-31-13 PDT Martin Owens Firstly, decide if the release is divergent (too much etc) if it is too much different, you can build special versions with your translations without any changes. 2019-05-15 14-37-23 PDT Martin Owens This is easy, you could ship just po file to readers 😅 they can install in Linux easy. 2019-03-25 04-35-26 PDT Martin Owens Hello 2019-02-17 10-42-54 PST Martin Owens Ah this is a good bug, can you report this to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues ? 2019-05-15 15-08-49 PDT Martin Owens OK. Riding my bike, will come back in two hours. 2019-05-15 14-15-51 PDT Martin Owens Has there been a problem? You are the only person who can delete a merge request for your own branch. 2019-02-17 11-21-22 PST Martin Owens No, you can handle that yourself, the fuzzy matching will likely handle your translations correclty when merged. 2019-05-15 14-17-11 PDT Martin Owens I'm not on my computer right now. 2019-02-14 11-55-57 PST Martin Owens We should talk more in the #team_translation channel so everyone can read. 2019-05-15 14-27-14 PDT Martin Owens No, so long as problem is technical and not personal. No problem to see chat. 2019-02-14 11-54-46 PST Martin Owens Welcome to the rocket chat for Inkscape 2019-02-17 10-44-20 PST Martin Owens Would you like some help? CR made a really cool video 2019-05-15 14-39-43 PDT Martin Owens I make assumption that consistent is the problem? 2019-05-15 14-23-40 PDT Martin Owens Maren did want or did not want? 2019-03-25 04-39-22 PDT Martin Owens :shaved_ice: 2019-03-25 04-37-47 PDT Martin Owens And getting into the Inkscape community, hope all is warm and welcoming. 2019-02-17 11-20-20 PST Martin Owens Thanks levent! 2019-05-12 14-17-20 PDT Martin Owens Did you talk with @Moini ? 2019-05-12 14-19-49 PDT Martin Owens Ok, so as long as the mention is blue like above, then you can wait 2 days to give her a chance to catch up. 2019-05-12 14-28-37 PDT Martin Owens yes 2019-05-12 14-17-05 PDT Martin Owens If you want to commit manually, you can add to inkscape codebase via gitlab. 2019-03-25 04-37-03 PDT Martin Owens NP, hope all is going well. 2019-05-15 14-38-01 PDT Martin Owens Which, the ship or the install? 2019-02-17 10-44-46 PST Martin Owens https://inkscape.org/news/2019/02/02/step-step-video-launched-how-report-is… 2019-05-15 16-42-13 PDT Martin Owens So, the job of master of Turkish would be: 1. translate inkscape into turkish, 2. Update new strings 3. Review turkish strings from other people. No other jobs. 2019-02-17 11-31-14 PST Martin Owens Well done! it's a long job! 2019-05-15 14-25-41 PDT Martin Owens Has she offended you greatly? 2019-02-17 11-23-30 PST Martin Owens Yes, gettext software has tools for updating translations. 2019-03-25 04-35-48 PDT Martin Owens Please don't, it is a spammer 2019-05-12 14-33-31 PDT Martin Owens It will be gloriously unique! 2019-05-12 14-23-40 PDT Martin Owens Well done on the completion. 2019-05-12 14-18-03 PDT Martin Owens She is the translators manager, I think you can message her here on chat (in the translators chat room) 2019-03-25 04-35-54 PDT Martin Owens I have reported it to the manager 2019-05-12 14-25-46 PDT Martin Owens Love it! 2019-05-12 14-13-37 PDT Martin Owens Yes. hello! How are you? 2019-05-12 14-18-46 PDT Martin Owens If you're patient and note her directly, she'll get back to you. She's in Germany. 2019-02-14 11-55-43 PST Martin Owens A few days ago there was another Turkish person who was asking about translations. 2019-05-12 14-28-39 PDT Martin Owens Lots to do 2019-05-12 14-14-20 PDT Martin Owens Enjoying a relaxing weekend. 2019-02-17 10-39-36 PST Martin Owens hi 2019-02-14 11-54-39 PST Martin Owens Hello! 2019-03-25 04-39-14 PDT Martin Owens :-) 2019-05-15 14-28-49 PDT Martin Owens I see. Did you know, you could release Turkish version of inkscape with your book? 2019-05-15 14-47-18 PDT Martin Owens Be the master 2019-05-15 14-44-14 PDT Martin Owens I see. And you do not want to be in charge of Turkish translation because it is too much work for you? 2019-05-15 14-21-22 PDT Martin Owens We are worried about you. What has happened? 2019-05-15 14-16-25 PDT Martin Owens I don't know, I've never had to do it. 2019-05-15 15-04-52 PDT Martin Owens Master in inkscape, not diy. Is option of many option. 2019-05-15 14-51-01 PDT Martin Owens master of translation in Turkish only. 2019-05-12 14-14-27 PDT Martin Owens That's great! 2019-05-15 14-33-35 PDT Martin Owens No, that will always be consensus version. But you have freedom to have levent version if you need to sell special inkscape alongside your book. It is legal. 2019-05-12 14-20-49 PDT Martin Owens I think so yes. Although I don't know it. 2019-05-15 14-25-26 PDT Martin Owens Oh, before you do that. You can talk to me. There is no one person or one set way to contribute. 2019-03-25 04-37-28 PDT Levent about translatin? 2019-05-12 14-31-49 PDT Levent most probably i will release my book after Inkscape's 1.0 release 2019-03-25 04-38-01 PDT Levent now i am checking minor errors in my translates 2019-05-15 14-16-45 PDT Levent i am trying now. can you see my request? 2019-05-15 14-43-00 PDT Levent i don't know how to make it all those what you said to me. i don't know how to pack inkscape with my translation etc.. 2019-05-15 14-17-56 PDT Levent https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/669 2019-03-25 04-35-43 PDT Levent do you know her 2019-05-15 14-28-10 PDT Levent here is the conversation 2019-05-15 14-23-17 PDT Levent Maren want to work with Turkish translation team and i haven't time for team work. i quitting 2019-03-25 04-36-27 PDT Levent thank you :) 2019-05-15 14-34-42 PDT Levent i thought 2019-02-17 11-22-15 PST Levent so, software will do that automatic, isn't it? i am keeping continue my translation 2019-05-12 14-32-15 PDT Levent there is no any book in Turkish about Inkscape 2019-05-12 14-15-30 PDT Levent how can i make it? 2019-05-12 14-35-12 PDT Levent hmmm... they done %65 but mine is %98 heheh 2019-05-12 14-17-26 PDT Levent how can i? i've never done that before 2019-05-12 14-17-37 PDT Levent no, i didn't talk with Moini 2019-05-15 14-16-56 PDT Levent on gitlab? 2019-05-12 14-31-13 PDT Levent and my book is on the way also 2019-05-15 15-06-10 PDT Levent my... i still didn't watch GoT's last episode 2019-05-15 14-29-54 PDT Levent how 2019-05-15 14-11-25 PDT Levent Hello Martin. are you there? 2019-02-17 11-24-58 PST Levent hmmm okay. i'm translating with looking Inkscape inside. i can report if i find something like that more 2019-02-17 10-40-18 PST Levent i think i found a minor error on inkscape during translation 2019-05-12 14-18-55 PDT Levent i see. okay, i already mentioned her name on transtlator's chat room 2019-05-12 14-47-22 PDT Levent i just opened a fork and requested merge. i will wait for Moini also 2019-05-12 14-31-56 PDT Levent yes, it's in Turkish 2019-05-15 14-37-20 PDT Levent Marc Jeanmougin just blocked my delete request. can you tell him to apply my delete request? 2019-05-15 14-24-31 PDT Levent Maren want to work with a group. i am not a group and i don't want to be group. i am going to delete my tutorial book also 2019-05-15 14-46-48 PDT Levent i don't understand. what kind of charge? 2019-05-12 14-26-38 PDT Levent me too. 1.0 version still under construction? 2019-05-12 14-17-47 PDT Levent and Moini isn't online now 2019-05-15 14-32-23 PDT Levent it will primary release of the inkscape.org? 2019-03-25 04-36-22 PDT Levent okay 2019-05-15 14-12-06 PDT Levent can you delete my Turkish translation on gitlab? thank you 2019-02-17 10-41-39 PST Levent open inkscape, press ctrl+shift+D and click "Grids" tab. Add a new Axonometric grid. there is three checking boxes: Enable, Visible and Snap to visible grids only. those three checking box's descriptions are displaced eachother when your mouse cursor on this three checkbox 2019-03-25 04-37-35 PDT Levent Moini helped me alot 2019-05-12 14-21-21 PDT Levent hmmm.. okay, i think i need to wait for her 2019-03-25 04-36-05 PDT Levent yes, i didn't send any email to it 2019-02-14 11-55-57 PST Levent bring* 2019-05-15 14-34-38 PDT Levent i will put it on googleplay 2019-02-17 10-39-43 PST Levent how are you? 2019-05-15 14-48-48 PDT Levent being master? could be alot of work. i only wanted to be translator, that's all. 2019-02-17 11-20-49 PST Levent My .po file has that same bug too? Should i report that if i going to finish the translation? 2019-05-12 14-33-43 PDT Levent yes in Turkey! 2019-02-17 10-43-48 PST Levent ummm... i dunno how to use gitlab 2019-02-17 11-33-15 PST Levent thanks. it's okay, i'm doing my best. 2019-05-15 14-24-34 PDT Levent she knows 2019-02-14 11-41-34 PST Levent by the way; Inkscape software translated last time in 2003 and i can translate software's new version 2019-05-12 14-31-02 PDT Levent love it. updates will keep Inscape modern always. 2019-05-12 14-14-30 PDT Levent sounds awesome :smile: 2019-05-15 14-38-18 PDT Levent what is the ship? 2019-05-15 14-35-55 PDT Levent linux 2019-05-15 14-18-49 PDT Levent it was good to know you Martin. take care. see you. 2019-05-12 14-14-17 PDT Levent i just done with .po file. and it's almost flawless job. 2019-05-15 15-05-44 PDT Levent can you show me an example? 2019-02-14 11-55-50 PST Levent well, what my project ring in your mind? 2019-03-25 04-35-14 PDT Levent Hello Martin, how are you? 2019-05-15 14-17-55 PDT Levent okay, i will be happy when you accept to delete and reput this guy's translation back 2019-02-14 11-20-26 PST Levent Hello Martin. I am the guy who want to create a Turkish tutorial book. I get your email. We haven't any Turkish tutorial book of Inkscape. That's reason very few people knows Inkscape software in Turkey. How can i get some help from you. Ps: i want to sell that book internet wide. 2019-05-12 14-25-04 PDT Levent i've worked on it for a nice job and i will keep to watch my translation if there is any change or addition. i will support always about it 2019-05-15 14-26-27 PDT Levent no, she didn't offended me. would you see our conversation? 2019-05-15 14-27-04 PDT Levent levent 11:51 PM so, here, in Turkey, we're dealing with a kind of tiran. maybe you've heard of his name before or meybe you don't. but our president's minority to us alot. he has alot of partisan to grab all works and leave us (dissident peopple) nothing. you know; i graduated from university as an art teacher on 2014 and i still searching for job (especially out of Turkey). now i'm trying to do something myself. about trying to create y own job, write a book for earn money etc.. and i want to do that jobs almost flawless for don't get reject by anyone. i don't know that group who are they. maybe they are partisan of our tiran or maybe they are opposit of him. but if you make me work with them, they will ruin my translation and it will meaning ruining my book. Moini 11:52 PM Mmh, that's a difficult situation that you are describing. levent 11:53 PM i am unemployed art teacher. so, i want to know my place for your eyes. give a decide. would you work with me? or would you work with that group? Moini 11:53 PM How would saying hi and inviting a Ubuntu user group to the translators chat to coordinate translations better ruin your book? levent 11:54 PM sayin hi to 38 people and manage all of them? have you ever read their names how much are they? Moini 11:55 PM I wouldn't expect everyone to actually join. If it's one or two, that would be a large number already. levent 11:55 PM and managing them is meaning extra time losing for me. what about for my book? Moini 11:56 PM Why do you think you'd have to manage them? levent 11:56 PM i don't want to waste my time for manage them. Moini 11:56 PM Will the book be finished before a release? levent 11:57 PM yes i am on 4th stage of my book Moini 11:57 PM Ah, so you are afraid that strings change after you wrote the book. levent 11:57 PM yeah Moini 11:57 PM This is difficult for me to write, but it is normal for this to happen. The original strings will probably also change still. levent 11:58 PM i am afraid that also i am translate something in it and put that screen in my book and someone going to change it Moini 11:58 PM We have not called for translators yet. Which we do when the strings are stable. And will not change anymore. You cannot rely on them staying the same yet It's too early. levent 12:00 AM i don't want to waste my time Maren. my time already wasted with that tiran. so, now you have two selection. chose mei or chose them. i can't work with them Moini 12:00 AM I'm not going to choose. I would like to have a healthy team. This is an open source project, and as such, everyone can contribute. I don't speak Turkish. I understand that this is causing work for your book, but this is something that cannot be changed. You are not required to work with them. But it may happen that other people come and improve your translation. This is how development works. It's not released yet, there is no way to rely on strings staying stable until the release. levent 12:04 AM so, do you want a team? Moini 12:04 AM Yes. That is what I want, but it might not be what I get. And that's okay. Nobody here has the power to tell anyone else what to do. We can only suggest. But never expect to get what we want. levent 12:05 AM okay. then delete my translation folder and reput their translation. because i am not available for team work. and i am going to delete my book. see ya. Moini 12:06 AM Maybe you will want to rethink this, we'll be here if you change your mind. Take good care, and I hope things will turn out well for you. (you will have to make a merge request for the change you want, because I am not an Inkscape developer, just administrator of the website translators) 2019-05-15 14-16-08 PDT Levent how can i do that? 2019-05-15 15-09-48 PDT Levent ok 2019-02-17 11-27-12 PST Levent by the way; the first a thousand lines are done. 2019-05-12 14-39-02 PDT Levent and they didn't translated long English strings. okay, full file on the way 2019-05-12 14-20-28 PDT Levent heheh okay, if i going to make it fork and give message to replace it, 2019-02-17 11-21-13 PST Levent you're welcome! 2019-02-14 11-56-18 PST Levent okay friend, let's talk on there 2019-03-25 04-38-26 PDT Levent here is awesome :) 2019-02-14 11-55-00 PST Levent yay! you're here 2019-05-12 14-03-35 PDT Levent Hello Martin! are you there? 2019-05-12 14-34-19 PDT Levent oh.. is someone worked Turkish translation file? let me look it up 2019-05-15 14-53-08 PDT Levent didn't understand again. Martin, i've never repack any of software in my life. and i don't know how to do. so, it won't work for me 2019-05-15 14-34-05 PDT Levent i really don't know how to do Martin 2019-05-12 14-13-55 PDT Levent i'm fine, thank you Martin, and you? 2019-05-12 14-15-26 PDT Levent now i want to put it there 2019-02-17 11-06-46 PST Levent i think i just done it: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/138 2019-02-17 10-39-26 PST Levent hey Martin! 2019-05-12 14-20-35 PDT Levent that would work? 2019-03-25 04-35-39 PDT Levent i got a message from natash223 user. she want me send an email to her 2019-05-12 14-19-18 PDT Levent about 15 minutes 2019-05-12 14-33-09 PDT Levent it will be abit fat book heheh 2019-05-12 14-15-17 PDT Levent so, last 100 strings are can't translatable to Turkish language 2019-05-15 14-37-42 PDT Levent how 2019-05-12 14-14-54 PDT Levent yes. i've done 8399 strings of the 8499

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29 Apr '21

2020-07-23 00-47-39 PDT Martin Owens You want to mirror media.inkscape.org or alpha.inkscape.org? 2020-07-23 02-11-11 PDT Martin Owens You can CC doctormo(a)geek-2.com if you think the email isn't getting to me. 2020-07-01 08-19-57 PDT Martin Owens Oh wow, I love physical events. I do "learn to teach, teach to learn" here in Boston, USA. For teenagers. It's a lot of fun. 2020-07-23 02-27-22 PDT Martin Owens If the sun explode.. this is technically an end ;-) 2020-07-01 08-14-51 PDT Martin Owens Rizky Djati Munggaran? 2020-07-01 08-25-45 PDT Martin Owens This is good to know. Probably already have all the channels needed to chat about things. But we can also make rocket chat live channel too. 2020-07-23 02-17-43 PDT Martin Owens How are things going in Indonesia? 2020-07-23 00-47-11 PDT Martin Owens Hi 2020-07-23 02-24-06 PDT Martin Owens Boston is better than most places in the USA right now. University is planning on online only for most people. Can eat at restaurants again, but outside. They have added tables and chairs to lots of streets. Which is good thing even if no virus. 2020-07-23 02-10-52 PDT Martin Owens Sure webmaster(a)inkscape.org :-) 2020-07-01 08-12-00 PDT Martin Owens Also, how did your event go, was the Inkscape content good? 2020-07-01 08-15-28 PDT Martin Owens I wish we had more of his works https://inkscape.org/~ridjam/ 2020-07-23 01-41-03 PDT Martin Owens Yes 2020-07-23 02-28-02 PDT Martin Owens I think the USA is focused on not an end, but a middle. Because everything is turning bad right now. 2020-07-23 02-37-00 PDT Martin Owens Our of control virus, secret police, possible breaking democracy. 2021 will either be much better, or much worse. But not the same. 2020-07-01 08-20-49 PDT Martin Owens Should we make Indonesian forum on https://inkscape.org/forums/ ? (we currently have German and English). 2020-07-01 08-05-12 PDT Martin Owens The check will take three weeks :-( but I will let you know when we get a response. 2020-07-01 09-13-02 PDT Martin Owens Agree! Only for more bridges between our country's communities. 😅 2020-07-01 08-04-53 PDT Martin Owens hi raniaamina, I got the request from michele. Thanks so much! 2020-07-01 08-15-56 PDT Martin Owens He's very good. I use his cartoons for anonymous forum avatar. 2020-07-01 08-04-02 PDT Rania Amina Hi, i'm so sorry for disturbing you. I just wanna inform, that Gimpscape recenty send donation (from Artweek event) with amount $115, hope it sent correctly. Would you check it, please :") Thank you. 2020-07-01 09-16-12 PDT Rania Amina That's true! 2020-07-23 02-22-38 PDT Rania Amina Most of event held as online event, very difficult to get permission from government to make offline event 2020-07-01 08-14-00 PDT Rania Amina Very good, soon one of them (Ridjam, i think he one of famous inkscape artist) give very good workshop, and most of them can follow his class very well 2020-07-01 08-06-07 PDT Rania Amina No problem, thanks :") 2020-07-22 20-09-40 PDT Rania Amina some%20people%20get%20very%20slow%20connection%20when%20download%20from%20Inkscape%20Website (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/hWajtta2HD47v8cmH/some%2520people%252…) 2020-07-23 00-56-43 PDT Rania Amina All installer file if possible (include stable version) 2020-07-01 08-57-34 PDT Rania Amina Yeah, i think every country has own platform that suitable with their habbit, to campaign about foss efficiently we need to go to their environment, imho😅 2020-07-23 02-36-11 PDT Rania Amina Turning bad?🤔 2020-07-23 02-10-28 PDT Rania Amina May i get you email address?🙈 2020-07-22 20-07-59 PDT Rania Amina Hi, one of gimpscape member wanna mirroring inkscape installer to Indonesia server. Is it any guide to do that? 2020-07-01 08-15-20 PDT Rania Amina Yeps 2020-07-23 00-59-15 PDT Rania Amina May he contact you via email? 2020-07-01 08-17-19 PDT Rania Amina I hope too :") But, i think he's very busy right now, as i know, he make a class of inkscape in his hometown 2020-07-23 02-21-04 PDT Rania Amina The case still increase, especially in up town area that far from city. Universities and school still inactive, but economical sector try to wake up and regrowing 2020-07-01 08-04-43 PDT Rania Amina Filename (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/BayBaoQWGGdbtPHEK/Filename) 2020-07-23 02-11-06 PDT Rania Amina Okay, thanks 2020-07-01 08-24-07 PDT Rania Amina I still have no idea, it will work or not, but most of indonesian prefer use live chat like telegram or facebook to ask, learn, and discussion. But i'll try to ask them 2020-07-23 02-26-33 PDT Rania Amina Let's hope it will end soon😆 2020-07-02 01-16-35 PDT Rania Amina https://youtu.be/Rtpy-25smv4 One of lightning talk about inkscape

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2020-01-24 21-57-29 PST Martin Owens Heya! Sorry for being late to reply. It's late. 2020-01-24 22-06-59 PST m3b it's ok; 2020-01-24 19-55-14 PST m3b hey bud, new to this online chat room setup which channels the best to hang in 2020-01-24 22-08-07 PST m3b i can't find in the chat on this chat system that their was a bug that's not fixed yet 2020-01-24 22-07-47 PST m3b their's a known bug but it isn't fixed the older version works; making the .png's i might try .jpgs it makes the layout.html & .css file i can do the rest through dreamwaver

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29 Apr '21

2020-09-18 13-56-19 PDT Martin Owens If you're on twitter, consider hearting my update tweet? https://twitter.com/realdoctormo/status/1307053699450179585 :-D 2020-09-18 10-15-35 PDT Martin Owens OK, you want to share you screen? 2020-09-13 03-50-16 PDT Martin Owens I've been gifted many opportunities to correct my behaviour and I think about how my passion can spill into being bossy often. Trying to remember those times I didn't get it right. 2020-09-13 03-48-46 PDT Martin Owens So the first thing; we have a procedure for dealing with code of conduct violations https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ The guide is there so anyone can feel confident identifying the problematic behaviour and raising the issue in a way that will get attention. 2020-09-13 03-47-13 PDT Martin Owens Morning datalot 2020-07-10 19-30-39 PDT Martin Owens :trophy: 2020-09-18 10-44-10 PDT Martin Owens No se algo! 2020-07-23 14-54-19 PDT Martin Owens I can give you a mentorship if you want. 2020-09-18 10-47-46 PDT Martin Owens Type this, while I answer your question 2020-06-16 10-33-30 PDT Martin Owens With yad I get questions, but shell and backtrace still cause errors. 2020-09-18 10-42-45 PDT Martin Owens Hmm, not sure what tool that is or how to use it 2020-07-10 19-12-44 PDT Martin Owens Firstly, can you even find the link ;-) 2020-07-10 19-21-45 PDT Martin Owens Thank you for testing with me. 2020-09-19 03-00-02 PDT Martin Owens Interesting! English got rid of most of it's grammar suffixes between old and middle English. Some still hang around, apparently we have hundreds still though. The fight between Dutch and French continues! 2020-09-18 10-18-07 PDT Martin Owens I see 2020-09-18 11-16-46 PDT Martin Owens So you can upload a new branch to your fork and ask for merge of just this one branch. 2020-09-20 02-27-11 PDT Martin Owens Er, Danish not Dutch. Clearly getting forgetful! 2020-09-18 10-43-46 PDT Martin Owens Hmmm 2020-07-10 19-17-30 PDT Martin Owens (do you think people will need instructions for the joining process?) 2020-09-18 10-43-41 PDT Martin Owens Or maybe it is just one commit 2020-09-18 11-44-54 PDT Martin Owens You must be learning a lot of about Git and GitLab :-D 2020-07-10 19-11-47 PDT Martin Owens I need a tester for the video, are you available? 2020-09-18 10-10-38 PDT Martin Owens Your merge request is corrupted. 2020-10-17 00-12-01 PDT Martin Owens Mostly, I'm looking for funding. Serious funding. 2020-10-15 11-47-13 PDT Martin Owens The question is; how do you broach the subject: you are doing a bad job, please step down so others can have a go. 2020-06-16 10-32-09 PDT Martin Owens Ubuntu 20.04 2020-09-18 11-11-52 PDT Martin Owens Should be same address though? 2020-07-10 19-15-46 PDT Martin Owens I can see your name 2020-07-10 19-12-25 PDT Martin Owens From this news article: https://inkscape.org/news/2020/07/07/inkscapes-summer-hackfest-2020-online/ 2020-09-21 03-04-00 PDT Martin Owens Sorry if I've been more of a nuisance than a help. 2020-09-18 13-04-42 PDT Martin Owens Don't worry, that happens to all outside jobs 2020-07-10 19-23-43 PDT Martin Owens Thank you for testing 2020-09-18 10-10-51 PDT Martin Owens Possibly because master has moved under it and no longer applies 2020-09-18 10-47-53 PDT Martin Owens I use git on the command line 2020-07-10 19-27-14 PDT Martin Owens Is that audio quality any better your end 2020-07-10 19-19-11 PDT Martin Owens Can you see the prentation or hear me yet? 2020-07-10 19-16-39 PDT Martin Owens OK from here, click the listen only (or microphone if you want to talk) 2020-07-23 15-55-22 PDT Martin Owens I want to make sure you can get the high bandwidth you need. 2020-07-10 19-25-52 PDT Martin Owens Is it as jagged as yours was to me? 2020-09-18 10-51-08 PDT Martin Owens I will buy cake 2020-10-15 06-50-52 PDT Martin Owens None, the board isn't in agreement and has structural issues which prevent us from acting correctly. 2020-09-18 10-43-21 PDT Martin Owens But it looks like it's off because it contains more than just your single commit. 2020-07-10 19-22-46 PDT Martin Owens If I move it to the second slide, you can see that 2020-06-16 10-35-25 PDT Martin Owens lol 2020-07-10 19-21-54 PDT Martin Owens Could you see me moving the video around? 2020-09-18 10-47-30 PDT Martin Owens `git remote -v` 2020-09-18 10-18-21 PDT Martin Owens You will have to tell me what you see, or ask questions for me to answer. 2020-10-15 12-09-24 PDT Martin Owens Great, make sure you're in the AUTHORS file, so if there' a vote for new board members you'll be able to have a voice. 2020-09-18 10-48-16 PDT Martin Owens `git push` 2020-06-16 10-36-17 PDT Martin Owens I don't work from my installed inkscape, I have inkscape-dev which is that. 2020-10-15 11-46-47 PDT Martin Owens Not a fork, but there's some serious bullshit going down and honestly I have no intention of provoking bad blood, but I am not happy and so are other board members. 2020-09-18 13-58-44 PDT Martin Owens I invent English because I am English :-P 2020-09-18 10-09-36 PDT Martin Owens Gracias 2020-09-15 08-01-49 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for bringing this to me, I think we've managed to clear the air. 2020-09-13 03-49-10 PDT Martin Owens The first goal is of course always to correct behaviours when we see them. 2020-07-10 19-23-54 PDT Martin Owens No, you are are muted 2020-09-18 10-12-12 PDT Martin Owens And we'll close this existing one with a link to the new one. 2020-07-10 19-24-37 PDT Martin Owens Thank you. Do you have any suggestions? 2020-09-18 13-59-38 PDT Martin Owens And I ken the nouse of orit yore and hither. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: 2020-09-18 11-16-53 PDT Martin Owens A fork and a branch are not the same thing. 2020-07-10 19-29-47 PDT Martin Owens Perfecto! thank you 2020-09-18 13-05-09 PDT Martin Owens I merged it 2020-06-16 10-33-43 PDT Martin Owens and run 2020-07-10 19-29-08 PDT Martin Owens If you talk briefly I'll get two data points 2020-09-18 11-04-50 PDT Martin Owens No cake, but muffin with cake sugar 2020-09-18 11-06-10 PDT Martin Owens `git push --set-upstream origin markers-colors` 2020-09-18 11-06-27 PDT Martin Owens I'm having Devon Custard with my "cake" 2020-06-16 10-30-36 PDT Martin Owens ```Reading symbols from inkscape... (No debugging symbols found in inkscape) /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 19: shell: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 22: shell: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 33: run: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 40: shell: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 43: backtrace: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 46: shell: command not found Ready for the action! /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 19: shell: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 22: shell: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 33: run: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 40: shell: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 43: backtrace: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 46: shell: command not found /home/doctormo/.config/inkscape/debug.sh: line 74: yad: command not found [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". ``` 2020-09-18 13-55-51 PDT Martin Owens You are very welcome! 2020-09-18 11-32-46 PDT Martin Owens :blowfish: yikes 2020-09-18 11-17-06 PDT Martin Owens (Fork is a bad name, it should be un arbol) 2020-09-18 11-16-32 PDT Martin Owens That is fine, your fork has many "branches" 2020-07-10 19-21-41 PDT Martin Owens Let me write things down 2020-09-18 11-05-14 PDT Martin Owens `git remote remove origin` 2020-07-10 19-15-03 PDT Martin Owens Yes, what happens when you type your name in and join? 2020-10-15 11-49-59 PDT Martin Owens I don't understand Adam's point, can you explain it? 2020-09-18 10-49-54 PDT Martin Owens `git push --set-upstream origin markers-colors` 2020-09-18 11-04-37 PDT Martin Owens Back 2020-09-21 03-03-19 PDT Martin Owens I don't see anything wrong with what either person wrong. At least from a purely fresh perspective. 2020-09-13 03-49-29 PDT Martin Owens So people who may not be aware of how toxic they are being can correct themselves. 2020-07-10 19-15-07 PDT Martin Owens (if you can) 2020-09-18 10-11-53 PDT Martin Owens Create a new patch with the clean fix on top of the current master and I will merge it right away. 2020-09-18 11-32-53 PDT Martin Owens I suppose it doesn't matter, just push to it 2020-07-10 19-22-14 PDT Martin Owens Can you see the presentation pdf? 2020-09-18 10-48-10 PDT Martin Owens Do you have Inkscape commit access? 2020-10-15 11-53-26 PDT Martin Owens That's certainly not my method of working. 2020-10-15 12-08-33 PDT Martin Owens Have you had any commits into the main repository yet? 2020-06-16 10-35-52 PDT Martin Owens I don't have a crash to replicate atm 2020-07-10 19-25-58 PDT Martin Owens Yes, I had the same issue 2020-06-16 10-31-02 PDT Martin Owens Linux version will likely need it's own binary. 2020-09-15 02-26-35 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for sharing 2020-09-18 11-05-39 PDT Martin Owens `git remote add origin https://gitlab.com/datalot/inkscape.git` 2020-07-23 15-13-01 PDT Martin Owens I will make myself available to you, although of course I can't guarantee every day. Are you ok with video chats for demostrations etc? 2020-07-10 19-25-14 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Can you lower the audio quality? 2020-09-18 11-13-06 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=gANcY9ABzqFLFqL6M) Yes, but my *current* fork had undefined troubles on mirroring and who knows what more. Months outdated. () 2020-07-10 19-30-33 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez All right. 2020-10-15 11-52-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It's about all the project, not only the source. 2020-09-18 12-59-45 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :disappointed_relieved: 2020-06-16 10-37-08 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Even you can make it work with other apps like GIMP. 2020-09-18 11-33-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Well... 2020-09-18 11-27-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I don't understand, my new fork is void. 2020-10-15 11-52-24 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez If there are 99 opinions in favor, 1 against can stop the work. It's like a overthinking of the situation... Like the imposibility to revert the changes... I mean... You all can try. If it doesn't work just revert the changes, but if you never try it will be like just getting worse. 2020-10-15 14-05-19 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Thank you very much! 2020-07-10 19-19-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I can hear you. 2020-07-10 19-25-37 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I don't know if it's my Internet connection, but your audio sound a little bit... 2020-09-18 10-09-09 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Oh... And _buen provecho_. 2020-07-10 19-14-37 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:14 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/2aSwLvboBoZXT3rt7/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-06-16 10-35-31 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :) 2020-09-18 10-47-59 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez origin https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape.git (fetch) origin https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape.git (push) 2020-09-18 10-51-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez remote: You are not allowed to push code to this project. fatal: unable to access 'https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape.git/': The requested URL returned error: 403 2020-09-18 10-52-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=mrT3to4vSs9dSXW3Q) No problem. Enjoy it! () 2020-06-16 10-34-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez That is what should happen. 2020-07-10 19-30-28 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:30 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/sGqYyusLGhJ68pAv2/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-09-18 10-39-40 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Now something comes to my mind: That is the Inkscape repository in my local, not a local-clone of a fork of Inkscape in GitLab. So my question is to make the Merge Request. 2020-09-18 10-50-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It requests me my GitLab credentials. Wait while I search them. 2020-06-16 10-31-17 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :frowning: 2020-09-18 10-19-03 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez No problem on it. Really thanks you. Now I will start... 2020-07-10 19-15-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It's loading... 2020-06-16 06-03-47 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez But the point is: The user just need a Right-Click on the desktop entry to run a debuging Inkscape. 2020-06-16 10-32-40 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez All others will ever appear. 2020-09-18 11-45-16 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=cbtHoHC4RuusZjuxo) jsjsjsjs The truth!!! () 2020-09-18 10-49-44 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez fatal: The current branch markers-colors has no upstream branch. To push the current branch and set the remote as upstream, use git push --set-upstream origin markers-colors 2020-07-10 19-22-27 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I can see you without issues. 2020-09-14 21-36-54 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=wzmttScX3SJxc2SWh) [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=wzmttScX3SJxc2SWh) In this sense... This happened for the first time a few hours ago: I have no idea what just happened. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ux/-/issues/38#note_412605900 I will just take a deep breath and consider that, as a programmer, he needs a little time. PD: I have never had any kind of discussion with this user. () 2020-09-18 11-44-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I remade the fork and it was successful. 2020-07-23 15-09-30 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Well. I think we could start tomorrow. 2020-09-18 14-28-31 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez In the last few months, Spanish parlants have been copying a English thing and is becoming more and more a trend. In English there is not something that really differ a verb from an adjetive, "branch", for example, is "rama", but while in Inglish you can say "Branch it", in Spanish this isn't even traducible... Maybe "Enrámalo", but it sounds really marginal aslñfkdjañklsjflñaksgj. The truth is that currently the meaning of "dinner" (cena) strongly changes when you say "dinnering" (cenando) in a phrase in which that's not the present. You can say "The dinnering" (La cenación), we can't. It's so understandable because our language is extremely flexible, but we can't do something like that. The English translation in something like "Dinnertion". So currently a lot of non-existent "action-or-effect-of" words are coming out this way: "Eation" (Comisión) (from Eating), "Sleeption" (Durmición) (from Sleeping), "Listention" (of listenning). 2020-09-20 18-19-29 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I didn't understand anyway :disappointed_relieved: :joy: 2020-07-10 19-22-08 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes. 2020-10-15 11-55-05 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=WGJnfJrv9D6DL8kkj) I know it. And I have the supisius Mc and Tav go similar ways, but with something stopping them for doing some things. I mean... It appears like you are the only person who "knows" that GitLab has Thumbs Up/Down. () 2020-06-16 06-00-20 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/nathanal?msg=MzZakCPc3t3jDfL42 () 2020-06-16 10-26-54 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/nathanal?msg=8d5GyyMfjEMPkGT72 () 2020-06-16 10-35-41 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What happened? 2020-06-16 10-38-34 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez it should be `gdb pathToAppImage -q -x ~/.config/inkscape/debug.sh` 2020-09-14 21-34-30 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez To be confident, I have asked almost all to Nathal because I feel you are "strong" or "empowered" - Do you understand me? 2020-10-15 05-31-12 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What steps has follow the board on Inkscape-Centralized Development? 2020-09-18 10-36-56 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 1:36 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Bbyv6s2WQSjKSXz96/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-06-16 06-02-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I had prepared it thanks to the @nathanal help. 2020-07-23 14-53-19 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Sorry for the noob question but what do you consider I need to learn Glade for Inkscape. All I know is that is like an interactive mockup generator, but I would like to know if for your ux#17 request I need to know about C, C++, Python and the Inkscape code/API also. Whatever highlight you could give me I will be grateful. Maybe I will not who make that baing there are a lot of trained developers around, but I would like to start understanding the "`x::y`" meaning you all developers speak about. I'm fully interested in making any well-received GUI changes (things like adjusting alignments or changing one color)... I really would like to learn to code with Inkscape. Thank you. 2020-09-18 11-45-09 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 2:45 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/GRpCTPEhxorXt7wWa/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-06-16 10-36-00 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez :( 2020-07-10 19-22-54 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes. 2020-09-14 21-33-49 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=3h9BpKi4zGL3GuSwg) In your case I can't say too much. You are one super politically correct person, and for me, you don't need to change. You are very clear when you speak. I love you and Nathal <3 xd () 2020-09-18 11-04-49 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Wow that was so quick. 2020-07-10 19-23-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Can you hear me? 2020-07-10 19-23-05 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:22 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/7uQWSuWNkXZwm6NHQ/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-09-14 21-34-42 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Like fear. 2020-10-16 20-13-35 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Basically I have a complex idea of how an _Illustrator Shape Builder Tool_ could be an "Inkscape Void Assembler LPE". 2020-09-18 11-27-29 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 2:27 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/iJ5C8fewzCMawyNZZ/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-10-15 11-14-35 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Do you see a fork in the future or the insatisfaction level isn't big enough? 2020-06-16 10-26-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Pls try it. 2020-06-16 06-01-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What I showed you in the gif is a desktop entry that handles with quickly getting the backtraces. It's a mixed script of -x and shell. It allows you to clear old logs and avoid things that -x cannot handle. For example: All commands after `backtrace full` are ignored if there are no backtraces (error of no stack), even "quit", so if you close Inkscape as usual with `Terminal=true` in the desktop entry, the terminal fails on close dropping you on the gdb prompt. It also makes the separated Inkscape and Backtrace reports in the user folder and shows you when Inkscape exits correctly or crashing, allowing you to delete the "All right" reports at the end. I think I will expand the shell script to handle little configurations on its own file. The manner of use this is just with two fixed scripts in a folder, and executing `gcd inkscapePath -q -x instructionsPath`. 2020-09-18 10-14-44 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I want to try making this process from my local git-clone repository and trought terminal now. After making the the changes, hope you guide me in the push, I don't knwo how do it right now. 2020-09-18 12-59-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez At: [ 56%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/inkscape_base.dir/ui/dialog-events.cpp.o 2020-06-16 10-36-53 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez In the Inkscape entry you can use whatever Inkscape binaries you have in you system. 2020-07-10 19-22-34 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Also the presentation. 2020-09-18 10-08-51 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I have edited the file in GitLab and I have made that MR. Now I don't know if I need to wait or what. I'm learning the path to make commits to Inkscape. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2320/ 2020-09-14 21-35-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez But in the time I have noted you are just a full-of-work person that should ever treat all as neutral because of your positions and responsibilities with the project. 2020-07-10 19-12-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What video? Just send me the instructions. 2020-06-16 10-34-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Now, if you have a replicable crash, do it. 2020-09-18 12-59-20 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ERROR: Job failed: execution took longer than 1h0m0s seconds 2020-10-15 11-49-28 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I agree with Adam's opinion about the overestimation of democracy. I see how Inkscape is "scared for changes"... or at least it appears to be like that. 2020-09-19 20-01-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Dutch and French battle? :thinking: 2020-06-16 06-01-23 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I don't know why the GIF it's to laggy. 2020-10-16 20-08-02 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Hello! — Maybe I will write this for Jabier also but I want to know your perspective: 1. What would provoke you getting alive someone's feature? 2. If I explain to you in detail not only what would be the final result, but also how it should work translating the "possible code" to human language (an in-deep explanation of the functioning, I don't know how to code exactly), would it help in provoking you to realize it or "whatever you say, anyway its out-of-my-interests"? 3. What would STOP you from getting a feature with this kind of development alive? 2020-07-10 19-27-04 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ? 2020-09-18 13-49-00 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Thank you very much for guiding me in this process. Your help is invaluable. 2020-09-12 18-34-34 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Hello Nathan! - I want to make a close question to you... I will also ask it to Doctormo in private chat... Do you think there are toxic people in the Inkscape development team? I speak about the people that are almost everywhere in the Inkscape project... Starting by people like Myself, Graytomorrow, Teen, or even you (PD: You are incredibly untoxic, you are the milk for the poisoning)... The point is I can't believe how little comments (maybe just two words in a paragraph of hundred) can be super shocking for people with great intentions, and I would like this type of behaviors be identified to be eradicated. Maybe I'm being too sentimental or sensitive, but the truth is that I can note very unpolitical speaking around some Inkscape's people. 2020-09-18 10-49-26 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=Tv9trPx3PmTH9bFMY) No idea. I suppose I haven't. If I remember, somewhere I have read that we need to do two pushes in order to be accepted and have access. () 2020-07-10 19-21-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I can't understand you totally while speaking, so please write me the important things and questions. I'm not English native. 2020-09-18 12-00-30 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2326 2020-09-18 13-57-50 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Well... Is the first time I read the "hearting" therm. I will "heart you" now. :joy: 2020-09-18 11-26-01 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=impZ4MZLEypkNEoat) Nonono I'm speaking about literally a fork. My own repository of Inkscape allocated on GitLab. That repository had months outdated and was full of strange issues mirroring from https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape. So it appears my on-GitLab "edit" of my Merge Request was the cause of the corruption. Because my fork's master was corrupted, as you have described in the quote. I mean, to make that change I went to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/blob/master/src/ui/widget/marker-com… and pressed "Edit", what says:_ A new branch will be created in your fork and a new merge request will be started. _ So that new branch in my GitLab's fork was moths (around two) outdated. () 2020-09-18 10-17-13 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Currently not possible. It's a `hardware + heat + infrastructure` trouble. 2020-10-15 12-08-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez 3 commits. 2020-06-16 10-32-21 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez You just need to install 'yad'. 2020-09-18 13-48-23 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 4:47 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DbYMp8skPoQTD3EGa/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-09-18 11-44-55 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 2:44 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/7yGduZkkKv5284nKh/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-09-18 13-56-53 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez "realdoctormo" ñasldfjkqfiopasflñkaglñjks 2020-07-10 19-18-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Instructions can be a one-line list. So being it's really obvious... I think no. 2020-09-18 10-46-08 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - September 18, 2020 1:45 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/gbrhxwwJfrTAs8teK/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-06-16 10-33-18 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez I will to integrate a module for dependencies that should be shown when the user doesn't fit it. 2020-07-23 15-21-56 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez As expected obvious. You are a human with life. Honestly I don't understand how you maintain your omnipresence around the project 24/7 without being burned. About video chats... Hm... It could be difficult considering the current language barrier and the technical environment here, but I should learn it too. In the ultimate circumstances, voice notes could leave me to try and try without fatiguing you at all. 2020-07-10 19-24-55 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes... 2020-09-18 10-44-12 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez It's just the Sublime Merge. Ignore it, The console is also usable. 2020-09-18 11-11-01 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=7gqRyT4mPEtAbG9rS) To avoid issues, I removed my actual Inkscape's GitLab fork. I'm reforking on GitLab before this command. () 2020-06-16 10-37-25 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Try to Ctrl + O in master AppImage 2020-09-18 10-46-41 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez What tool do you use to code Inkscape? Your tool differs from other programmers? 2020-07-10 19-25-53 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez choppy 2020-06-16 06-00-19 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Maybe something like this? 2020-07-10 19-16-15 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Clipboard - July 10, 2020 10:15 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/NzrBSfdGbGReQhKu6/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-06-16 10-34-11 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Yes.

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2020-09-30 03-07-22 PDT Martin Owens (from bryce) 2020-02-09 16-16-05 PST Martin Owens (because if it's in the general, the good news is that the vector lists aren't going to stop on this second round) 2020-08-15 13-56-30 PDT Martin Owens *or* 2020-02-09 16-22-17 PST Martin Owens My job is to try and rally those generic bugs more. Focus on those. Maren did a "production ready" walk through and found too many crashes, even in Linux. 2020-02-09 16-41-00 PST Martin Owens I suspect that might be the case. If it comes to never releasing a Mac "finished" release. We may have to contend with that. But at least users will be aware of the quality of the software and we can focus on further recruitment. 2020-02-09 16-21-23 PST Martin Owens Understood. We still have that plan for issuing a Mac 'pre-release' status release so we can get something out the door. 2020-09-30 03-07-16 PDT Martin Owens He's taken over secretarial duties. 2020-02-09 16-43-18 PST Martin Owens Proposed new about screen: 2020-10-10 15-27-09 PDT Martin Owens I think he's asking if you have a blog and documented how you did it. But I don't think you have this, so I would just answer him that you didn't document it. 2020-08-15 13-56-25 PDT Martin Owens Yes, doctormo(a)geek-2.com 2020-02-09 16-02-28 PST Martin Owens Sorry for the confusion, just my abundance of caution about throwing peopel a link they may not have been able to see. 2020-09-30 03-07-06 PDT Martin Owens He's not the leader by the way. 2020-02-09 16-41-47 PST Martin Owens I wonder if there's some tag we can use "inkscape 1.0ahh-it-burns" 2020-02-09 16-45-30 PST Martin Owens Actually can we design something into the Mac package installer (that folder image that's currently the beta/alpha image) that communicates "Look, this isn't going to be great" 2020-09-30 02-08-27 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for backing me up in the developer channel with ted. I am curious, what do you think is going on here (from what you can see) 2021-03-12 05-34-57 PST Martin Owens id_rsa.pub.txt (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/XWJZLoLePFyqzLMn8/id_rsa.pub.txt) 2021-03-12 05-35-07 PST Martin Owens Thanks René 2021-03-12 12-36-27 PST Martin Owens In body and mind, but my soul is somewhere else 2021-03-12 12-37-15 PST Martin Owens don 2021-03-12 12-37-16 PST Martin Owens e 2021-03-12 12-38-23 PST Martin Owens Success 2021-03-12 12-40-56 PST Martin Owens Connected 2021-03-12 12-42-07 PST Martin Owens Understood, I'll have a play with it, probably just install Inkscape binaries rather than compile things. 2021-03-12 12-42-18 PST Martin Owens (but maybe compile things if needed) 2021-03-12 12-42-22 PST Martin Owens Thank you so much 2021-03-12 12-48-22 PST Martin Owens Woot, got `Remmina` to log in without me having to boot up a separate ssh client. 2021-03-12 12-49-43 PST Martin Owens I used it to work on a Nasa project, got to keep all the export controlled files off my computer 2021-03-12 12-51-25 PST Martin Owens Same for them, you couldn't VNC to their machines without a dongle and a lot of passcodes. 2021-03-12 12-52-48 PST Martin Owens Yes 2021-03-12 12-53-30 PST Martin Owens Nah, had it installed already, just needed to remember where all the values go. 2021-03-26 16-30-53 PDT Martin Owens :thumbsup: 2021-04-17 06-31-59 PDT Martin Owens What do you think of this problem of endorsing or listing or etc, contributors? 2021-04-17 07-56-13 PDT Martin Owens Thanks René 2021-04-17 07-56-22 PDT Martin Owens (this is why you'd be good on the board :-D) 2021-04-17 08-07-57 PDT Martin Owens Perhaps we can save this for a meeting time, it's a good set of ideas which perhaps we need a breather before coming back. 2021-04-17 09-01-36 PDT Martin Owens Nah it's ok. I saw the smoldering embers sparking back into life. 2021-04-17 09-01-45 PDT Martin Owens Good to get your say out there. 2021-04-22 10-37-43 PDT Martin Owens Looks like `sirius` is down, so no windows for me today. Is is a temp machine? 2021-04-22 10-40-41 PDT Martin Owens Ah no problem. 2021-04-22 10-58-33 PDT Martin Owens I did get lots of use out of it, thank you! 2021-04-22 10-58-53 PDT Martin Owens Instead I will lean on windows users :-D 2020-02-09 16-21-36 PST Martin Owens Mac: IT ALMOST WORKS! 2020-09-30 03-08-47 PDT Martin Owens You'll find it funny but ted sees the board as NOT leaders. Doesn't want the board to be seen as leaders. I tried to explain that this isn't really possible, people will always see us as a leadership. 2020-08-15 13-57-13 PDT Martin Owens geek-2 for my friends :-D 2020-02-09 16-03-31 PST Martin Owens No problem. How goes the Mac release? 2020-02-09 16-43-41 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2020-02-09 19-43-01.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jXvd2beKuM62iZzC7/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-09-30 03-08-01 PDT Martin Owens Yes he is :-) one of the founders of Inkscape too, so people have been shy about asking hard questions. But honestly I'm kind of finished waiting. 2020-02-09 16-01-57 PST Martin Owens But I know the board project has got a lot of controls switched on about who can see what. 2020-09-30 03-17-48 PDT Martin Owens It's old fashioned. 2020-02-09 16-50-56 PST Martin Owens I agree. Knowing that open source projects are in trouble, could attract the right sort of pressure. 2020-02-09 16-01-32 PST Martin Owens Oh good. I don't think it is supposed to be private (you can't see any personal information in there can you) 2020-02-09 16-21-42 PST Martin Owens ;-) 2020-08-15 13-57-17 PDT Martin Owens (it's newer) 2020-09-30 03-08-57 PDT Martin Owens And my point is that we should start acting like it 2020-02-09 16-15-43 PST Martin Owens Mac specific issues or your general sense is that Inkscape itself has too many flaws? 2020-02-09 16-23-17 PST Martin Owens So after we've tackled the vector bug lists we'll probably put out a call to users to grind the app down in real world uses. I would include a Mac RC in that if possible. 2020-09-30 03-06-29 PDT René de Hesselle I can only guess that these are topics he isn't comfortable with and I understand now what you mean when you are saying you're feeling blocked (I've watched your video about funded development) at every turn. 2020-10-10 15-19-08 PDT René de Hesselle Thanks for the various mentions on Twitter. I don't want to make a fool of myself on Twitter by not having understood the conversation: is Bruno Winck's question "Did you share on the process, how you implemented it?" directed at me? Is he asking if my work is publicly available? 2020-09-30 03-02-42 PDT René de Hesselle I was boiling. I had to rewrite 5 times what I was going to say to take out the heat and anger. 2020-09-30 03-07-45 PDT René de Hesselle (It think of the board as leaders in a general way) 2020-02-09 16-01-49 PST René de Hesselle Ah, did I misunderstand that? 2020-09-30 03-17-17 PDT René de Hesselle This "incident" is now the second time (I haven't taken notes on what the first occasion was) that I thought to myself "open source but close minded". 2020-02-09 16-10-29 PST René de Hesselle There is a small light at the end of the tunnel as we maybe fixed one of the blockers, but it's not safe yet. A few people confirmed the fix but Thomas says he can still reproduce the issue. So here's to hoping. But everything else is pretty much unchanged and I think there are still too many serious issues (ontop on anything that you guys are currently fixing / Vectors' blocker list). 2020-09-30 03-07-28 PDT René de Hesselle I meant that as in "member of the board" (he is on the board right?) 2020-08-15 13-56-47 PDT René de Hesselle I don't mind, which one do you prefer? 2020-02-09 16-46-37 PST René de Hesselle :laughing: Might actually be a very good idea to use that kind of humor together with a serious message about the state of things. 2020-02-09 16-42-33 PST René de Hesselle We might not like it if that happens (myself included), but it's about the message we want to send out. 2020-02-09 16-48-03 PST René de Hesselle I don't want to sound like a tele-marketer, but if we get that right, it'll create the right kind of buzz and attention we need 2020-09-30 03-05-26 PDT René de Hesselle And I still disagree. I know that there has to be some order in regards to meetings, but the way he communicated it... if he really feels/thinks this way, he is not qualified to take a leadership position. 2021-01-18 02-24-05 PST René de Hesselle [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=HfXf5NeDHZCoG3ETz) Sadly I can only pull off this magic trick once ;-) () 2021-01-18 02-29-38 PST René de Hesselle Ooops, this ended up here by mistake 2021-02-11 17-46-09 PST René de Hesselle I'm new to #general but I believe user "lulmamanxii" is begging to be silenced because of inappropriate language. Also check profile "F... yo b...". 2021-03-11 16-50-21 PST René de Hesselle Please send me a ssh public key to dehesselle(a)web.de as you will be using RDP over SSH. 2021-03-12 10-57-56 PST René de Hesselle You login will be ready in 2-3 hours. I'll message you here. 2021-03-12 12-36-08 PST René de Hesselle You here? 2021-03-12 12-36-46 PST René de Hesselle Add this to your `.ssh/config`: ``` Host sirius HostName v2202010130414128487.supersrv.de Port 57921 User doctormo LocalForward 13389 localhost:3389 ``` 2021-03-12 12-37-38 PST René de Hesselle if the pub key you gave me is a special one (i.e. not your default one, you need to add the private part as `IdentityFile`) 2021-03-12 12-37-46 PST René de Hesselle Ok try to `ssh sirius` 2021-03-12 12-38-40 PST René de Hesselle Nice. Now fire up your RDP client of choice and use `localhost:13389` to connect 2021-03-12 12-38-53 PST René de Hesselle Your Windows user is `doctormo` and password is `start123`. 2021-03-12 12-41-05 PST René de Hesselle You can do what you want, the server is up 24/7. In case you reboot, you need to contact me, as the machine does not boot up Windows by default. You can put programs and stuff on there as you like, keep it to drive `E:` . There's lot of space there. I haven't made you admin, tell me if you need that. 2021-03-12 12-41-57 PST René de Hesselle There is already an msys2 installation there, but I suggest you make your own one on `E:` 2021-03-12 12-42-42 PST René de Hesselle It has 8 or 10 cores and 64 GiB RAM, so plenty of room to compile should that be required 2021-03-12 12-49-18 PST René de Hesselle It always amazes me who many screen sharing / remote support tools exist. This one is new to me. 2021-03-12 12-50-42 PST René de Hesselle I don't trust open RDP connections on a Windows machine, that's why I forced RDP to localhost and use SSH to tunnel to it 2021-03-12 12-52-35 PST René de Hesselle Wait, this is not a seperate thing, Remmina supports RDP over SSH out of the box? (I'm jsut reading the readme) 2021-03-12 12-52-53 PST René de Hesselle Wow thats awesome 2021-03-12 12-53-09 PST René de Hesselle I thought you installed "a Teamviewer" thing 2021-03-12 12-53-30 PST René de Hesselle I'll have to bookmark this! 2021-03-26 15-53-10 PDT René de Hesselle I'm a bit worried: https://gitlab.com/dl2m/inkscape/-/commit/e7b94b9baf94da98a8ee39fd6b90912a2… looks like spam to me, but from an account with maintainer privileges in our project? 2021-03-26 16-29-46 PDT René de Hesselle False alarm, I misunderstood "maintainer" 2021-04-17 06-32-30 PDT René de Hesselle I'm typing something in my vim which will make me unpopular, give me a sec 2021-04-17 07-22-10 PDT René de Hesselle Don't want to post this publicly yet, but this how I would suggest to go about it. 2021-04-17 07-22-19 PDT René de Hesselle As we are volunteer-driven and nobody can tell anybody what to work on, I see no difference between choosing my area of work of my own volition or being motivated by a donation to pick something to work on. The discussion "can an individual donation take something away from Inkscape that otherwise would have been more important to focus on" is and stays entirely theoretical as long as I am free to do what I want. I'm not even obligated to tell if I'm getting paid by someone or not. 2021-04-17 07-22-26 PDT René de Hesselle Best outcome is that Inkscape gains a cool feature that someone else paid for. Worst outcome is the feature does not get accepted by Inkscape official, but that is not and should not be made the projects' problem. (Every feature ever has always had the risk of not being accepted.) 2021-04-17 07-23-04 PDT René de Hesselle 1. Do we as a project want to advertise the fact that people can fund developers directly? a. As we are still a decentralized project, the project cannot make guarantees for accepting things that people fund individual developers for. This is a risk that the funder and fundee need to talk about prior to their engagement and is their responsibility/liability alone. 2021-04-17 07-23-15 PDT René de Hesselle 2. In order to give it a test run, restrict the possibility to get listed on our page to people who are already contributors so we only have to deal with "known faces" instead of unknowns during the testing phase. 2021-04-17 07-23-24 PDT René de Hesselle (the end) 2021-04-17 07-56-44 PDT René de Hesselle If you think it has the right tone, I'll post it into vectors channel 2021-04-17 08-57-24 PDT René de Hesselle oops, I should've read your reply first. I've just recycled parts of that in a post. 2021-04-22 10-49-48 PDT René de Hesselle (it won't be up 24/7 but it also will not be decommissioned three weeks later ;-) ) 2021-04-22 10-39-20 PDT René de Hesselle I need to look into the history... somewhere I said how long this machine is paid for, give me a sec 2021-04-22 10-40-26 PDT René de Hesselle It was decomissioned end of March 2021-04-22 10-41-18 PDT René de Hesselle I cannot find it here, I believe if we scroll up in the devel channel (I believe it was there where you were looking for something with Windows) we find it there 2021-04-22 10-41-53 PDT René de Hesselle Sorry. I hope you still got some use out of it 2021-04-22 10-42-45 PDT René de Hesselle I can only offer Teamviewer access to Laptop that I don't use regularly, if that helps 2020-09-30 03-11-41 PDT René de Hesselle I find that indeed funny as I would not have expected that. 2020-02-09 16-22-13 PST René de Hesselle That'll do ;-) 2020-02-09 16-42-39 PST René de Hesselle Haha I like the idea about that tag 2020-02-09 16-01-01 PST René de Hesselle (I didn't read it.) 2020-02-09 16-00-54 PST René de Hesselle I can see this issue you linked to in the dev channel and I'm under the impression it's supposed to be private. 2020-02-09 16-03-06 PST René de Hesselle Don't worry. Better safe than sorry. Sorry for the noise! 2020-08-15 13-56-08 PDT René de Hesselle Did I get that right? `doctormo(a)gmail.com`? 2020-02-09 16-01-03 PST René de Hesselle Just to let you know. 2020-02-09 16-39-30 PST René de Hesselle I think I won't block an RC even I think it's too premature to call it that. Once the time comes to lose the "beta"/"rc"/... labels altogether, at least for the other platforms, that'll be another story. 2020-02-09 16-20-03 PST René de Hesselle macOS specific ones. TBH I'm not really up-to-date on the general quality of the rest, maybe with the exception of the degradation in overall performance. But I'm also not really worried about the other issues because they get more or less the whole team behind them to hunt them down.

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2019-01-18 07-11-33 PST Martin Owens So the channel we should work from is #mac-dev 2019-01-18 07-09-58 PST Martin Owens Hi 2019-01-18 07-10-07 PST Forrest Hartley Hey :)

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2020-10-19 09-15-19 PDT Martin Owens I'm also raising money to continue the work on the connector tool and I'm looking for sponsors. If you are interested or know people who are, please do get them in touch. 2020-10-19 09-14-42 PDT Martin Owens This is the svg file: https://inkscape.org/~doctormo/%E2%98%85symbols-creator 2020-10-20 08-53-34 PDT Martin Owens What operating system are you using? You can always use the portable Inkscape instead of a VM 2020-10-19 09-28-29 PDT Martin Owens OK I will! 2020-10-20 08-40-03 PDT Martin Owens Is this with 1.1 or 1.0.1? 2020-10-06 04-10-02 PDT Martin Owens Great, so you are the copyright holder and you should decide on the right license. I would recommend a Public Domain or CC0 license to allow others to use your symbol drawings without restrictions. 2020-10-19 09-11-50 PDT Martin Owens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNykzg4Mxwo 2020-10-19 09-11-50 PDT Martin Owens I made this video 2020-10-20 09-00-05 PDT Martin Owens Markers is still broken, line width seems correct. Don't forget the shapes created are Clones, not copies, so resizing should be avoided. 2020-10-06 04-07-29 PDT Martin Owens I am a good person to ask. 2020-10-06 04-23-07 PDT Martin Owens OK. Let me know in #team_devel because I don't want to forget your work. You can also create an issue in https://inkscape.org/report to make sure your work is added 2020-10-06 04-16-00 PDT Martin Owens What operating system are you working on? 2020-10-20 08-41-21 PDT Martin Owens I don't know, but if I test now then I can figure it out. 2020-10-19 09-30-16 PDT Martin Owens Screenshot from 2020-10-19 12-29-51.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/LDcWE38BPB3SMCetc/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-10-06 04-11-50 PDT Martin Owens See this for interesting future: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1994 2020-10-19 09-18-21 PDT Martin Owens This only deals with subpoints, and is only useful if you are using the 1.1 development version. 2020-10-06 04-08-31 PDT Martin Owens Additional: have the symbols been tested with the latest unstable version which inclues the multi-connector-point functionality? 2020-10-06 04-07-36 PDT Martin Owens What license are the symbols under? 2020-10-19 09-30-26 PDT Martin Owens Is this correct,only these symbols? 2020-10-20 08-56-44 PDT Martin Owens You should download the AppImage version, you can set the execute bit and just execute it as a program (a self contained program) 2020-10-20 08-49-16 PDT Doenermann okay, thanks a lot. If I have some time tomorrow i will install an virtual machine with the latest inkscape to test this. Don't want my working system with software out of official sources, because it is for work. 2020-10-06 04-15-13 PDT Doenermann okay, that sounds good. Maybe i will wait till this is included in the next official build of inkscape, so i will not get in trouble by installing software on the system that is not under the packet manager control. After testing this, I can try to spend the symbols to Inkscape. Do I need to change the repository of the symbol set to the inkscape-repository? 2020-10-19 23-41-33 PDT Doenermann These are all symbols: 2020-10-20 08-40-33 PDT Doenermann Clipboard - 20. Oktober 2020 17:40 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/bum7dc5eAFvFBh4y9/Clipboard%20-%2020.…) 2020-10-20 08-38-51 PDT Doenermann Dear doctormo, i had some free minutes today, so i tried out to test the symbols function again. But i had the same trouble as last time. When pulling the objects to the symbols and push them back to a new inkscape sheet, the original size is not there. Some elements are missing (like arrows) and resizing the elements is also not working even with disabled scaling contour. 2020-10-06 04-16-47 PDT Doenermann Manjaro Linux 2020-10-20 08-40-36 PDT Doenermann 1.0.1 2020-10-19 09-24-12 PDT Doenermann So I will wait for having the official 1.1 release, think this is the easiest way. May I will upload them to the user-gallery before. But may you can review them? I don't know if I have done everything right or if something basic is still missing. 2020-10-20 08-57-25 PDT Doenermann okay, I will try this next, thanks a lot 2020-10-19 09-10-14 PDT Doenermann Dear Doctormo, as talked a few days before, I added CC0 license to the symbol set. https://github.com/upb-lea/Inkscape_electric_Symbols Before set this figures to channel #team_devel or to a git-issue, may you can review these symbols by trying out? May I need to make real symbols out of them, but in the past I had some problems with that. Please let me know some details. May we can also have a phone call (we have an own jitsi-server). What is your time zone? Mine is UTC+2 2020-10-20 08-40-44 PDT Doenermann Is this fixed in 1.1.0? 2020-10-06 04-11-17 PDT Doenermann Yes, So I can set them to CC0, i will do that 2020-10-06 04-09-12 PDT Doenermann I draw these by myself. All Symbols can also be found in ISO60617 standard (for electrical drawings). Lot of programs (like microsoft visio) also use this symbol set. 2020-10-06 04-10-43 PDT Doenermann No, the symbols are not drawn in the latest unstable. This is version 1.0.1 (2020-09-07) running on manjaro linux (from manjaro software sources). 2020-10-20 08-53-57 PDT Doenermann ah, this sounds good. it is Manjaro Linux. 2020-10-19 23-41-17 PDT Doenermann I did not mount them into the symbolsmenu due to I had some problems with that in the past. So they are just in the file. So I will try to put them again in the symbols menu 2020-10-19 23-41-35 PDT Doenermann Clipboard - 20. Oktober 2020 08:41 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/R4FvEBaTo2uz3bzkJ/Clipboard%20-%2020.…) 2020-10-06 04-07-06 PDT Doenermann Dear doctormo, for electric symbols, we developed a symbol set, that is not default available in inkscape. Is it possible to integrate this symbols in the inkscape program? Whom can I turn to ask? https://github.com/upb-lea/Inkscape_electric_Symbols Is this a good idea? what do you think? 2020-10-19 09-24-40 PDT Doenermann I have not used inkscape for that long. 2020-10-19 09-17-40 PDT Doenermann okay, thanks for this information, I will try to try out again. When making some symbols in the past, I had some trouble with the size when I set the symbols to the sheet. I will check this out. 2020-10-20 08-38-54 PDT Doenermann Clipboard - 20. Oktober 2020 17:38 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jJ8raspHkBKJJEsLR/Clipboard%20-%2020.…)

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