2020-11-18 01-28-33 PST Tavmjong Bah Would an email to the list asking directly for help be useful? (You've hinted at it but it might be useful to be more explicit.) 2019-02-11 12-55-04 PST Tavmjong Bah Which things? I'm making lots of progress figuring out how to integrate Gio::Actions into Inkscape. 2019-09-13 09-21-28 PDT Tavmjong Bah What's the event? 2020-11-18 00-53-00 PST Tavmjong Bah One could ask Mc. 2020-11-18 00-49-59 PST Tavmjong Bah BTW, Cairo desparately needs a release! 2019-07-02 08-59-34 PDT Tavmjong Bah Good ideas! Thanks for the info, I've got to take my girls to the dentist in a few minutes... 2019-09-13 09-19-10 PDT Tavmjong Bah We should let Mc know too. 2019-02-11 13-01-23 PST Tavmjong Bah The more I work with Inkscape's code the messier I find it. Classes aren't clearly defined as to what they are suppose to do. Lots of unnecessary base classes (with only one derived class). Etc. 2020-11-18 01-29-18 PST Tavmjong Bah Mathias's email was pretty strong. 2019-09-18 05-47-30 PDT Tavmjong Bah I assume we're still on for tonight. Do you have a phone number I can text you if necessary? I'll leave home around 5:30 after my wife gets back from work. My number is +33 7 67 75 19 60 2019-07-02 08-33-36 PDT Tavmjong Bah Interesting. In your honest opinion, would I have much of a chance? (You can assume my Inkscape contributions are the main things I'vd done computer wise the past dozen years.) 2020-11-18 00-53-29 PST Tavmjong Bah Excellent! 2019-09-15 12-37-28 PDT Tavmjong Bah Hi, Do you have a better idea of your schedule? I've Okayed Wednesday with my wife. I can either meet you in Paris at around 7PM (I can't leave before my wife gets home from work to watch our youngest) or you coud come out here anytime Wednesday afternoon/evening. 2019-09-13 09-11-07 PDT Tavmjong Bah I'll need to check with my wife, but I can probably come into Paris for dinner Wednesday or you might be able to come out here. It's about an hour train ride from the center of Paris with trains every 15 minutes. I was just going to ask where you'll be staying. 2019-07-02 08-22-22 PDT Tavmjong Bah It's in the link. 2019-09-16 01-31-08 PDT Tavmjong Bah I'll let Mc know. 2019-02-11 12-52-57 PST Tavmjong Bah Thanks 2020-11-18 01-21-00 PST Tavmjong Bah The FreeDesktop git page list four owner: you, Carl Worth, Keith Packard, and Uil Schlachter. I think only Uli is actually actively still contributing. (last commits: Carl 2010, Keith 2011). 2019-07-14 05-28-01 PDT Tavmjong Bah Hi, I've got the OSBAR (Open Source Business Award) trophy. I was told it should be sent to you. I just want to confirm that before I pack it. (I will mail it to you when I'm in the US). 2019-02-11 13-02-00 PST Tavmjong Bah Got an SVG Working Group meeting starting now. 2019-07-02 08-40-10 PDT Tavmjong Bah Ah, no problem. 2020-11-18 01-03-27 PST Tavmjong Bah Who "owns" these libraries? I get a feeling that some of the reluctance to maintain things is a fear of treading on somebodies toes... 2019-07-10 02-11-21 PDT Tavmjong Bah (It's in Munich this year.) 2019-02-11 12-45-27 PST Tavmjong Bah What is SFC IRC channel. I haven't heard back from them (emailed them last Wednesday at approvals@tex.sfconservancy.org). 2019-07-02 08-51-58 PDT Tavmjong Bah How could you see other interviewees taking the test with you? 2019-09-16 04-45-45 PDT Tavmjong Bah Mc is fine to meeting at your hotel at 7pm. 2019-07-02 08-55-15 PDT Tavmjong Bah That does seem strange. 2020-11-18 01-26-00 PST Tavmjong Bah Seems unlikely Carl would be interested after a 10 year gap. 2020-11-18 00-56-56 PST Tavmjong Bah Yeah, he could be more communicative. But it would allow Inkscape to have a greater influence it its direction. 2019-02-11 13-00-32 PST Tavmjong Bah I really like the GitHub bug tracker. I haven't been paying too much attention to the bug moving stuff. Mostly, responding to bugs that are pointed my way. 2019-07-02 08-29-32 PDT Tavmjong Bah What is the hiring procedure, on-line test followed by video interview? 2020-11-18 01-22-33 PST Tavmjong Bah This is the email that we used for KK during GSoC: 2019-09-13 04-15-16 PDT Tavmjong Bah Hi, what's your schedule going to be like while in Paris? 2020-11-18 01-31-08 PST Tavmjong Bah BTW, isn't the font rendering in Cairo considered a "Toy API" so would it be worth removing it from testing? It seems to cause a lot of grief. 2018-12-06 10-56-44 PST Tavmjong Bah Sorry to hear about your mother. I'm sure that is a great loss for you and your family. 2019-07-10 08-07-48 PDT Tavmjong Bah OK. Only three people are eligible, you, Josh, and me (admin + mentor with student). Josh already said he couln't go. Mc is signed up as a mentor but without a student. So, I'll register to go. 2019-07-10 02-11-01 PDT Tavmjong Bah Do you want to attend the GSoC mentor's summit? (Your listed as an admin so you are eligable.) 2019-07-02 03-46-55 PDT Tavmjong Bah Hi Bryce, Ted pointed out a Canonical job he thought I might be interested in and said I should go through you if I decide to apply for it as you'll get a referal bonus (https://boards.greenhouse.io/canonical/jobs/1626364). It does look interesting, especially as it is a work from home position and now that my girls are older, I don't need to spend as much time watching them. As I've never worked for a software company, I have no clue as to how well I would fit in. 2019-06-06 14-46-17 PDT Tavmjong Bah Board meeting tomorrow? 2019-07-02 08-25-50 PDT Tavmjong Bah Ah, that's something I don't have.... I've been mostly using Red Hat/Fedora for 20+ years 2019-09-13 09-13-15 PDT Tavmjong Bah Add about 20 minutes as your near the edge of Paris. 2019-07-02 08-28-05 PDT Tavmjong Bah They didn't offer you the job? 2019-09-13 09-24-15 PDT Tavmjong Bah Mc says he's available Wednesday. 2020-11-18 00-49-36 PST Tavmjong Bah He attended several GSoC meetings. 2019-09-18 08-23-02 PDT Tavmjong Bah Out the door, see you in about 90 some minutes.... 2020-11-18 01-05-56 PST Bryce Harrington pixman is (in theory?) unmaintained, so in theory just needs a strong maintainer. 2019-09-13 09-35-13 PDT Bryce Harrington the event is Canonical's bi-annual Engineering Sprint 2019-07-02 08-53-30 PDT Bryce Harrington they had us all come to a google hangout together, where they explained the test process, the travel requirements, etc. then gave the link to the test, and we stayed online while taking it. You could do it anonymously, and didn't have to have your camera on, but a lot of people just did it with their own names and had the camera on. Of course I then looked up the other applicants on linked in... 2020-11-18 01-13-11 PST Bryce Harrington Cairo is a bit different. It mostly just needs someone with spare time. 2019-07-02 08-30-51 PDT Bryce Harrington each team is different though. The server team was an offline test, more of an open book set of challenge problems, they gave a week to do it but I was able to complete it in an afternoon 2019-07-02 08-18-10 PDT Bryce Harrington sure, happy to assist. what's the job? 2019-09-16 01-22-57 PDT Bryce Harrington did you invite Mc? 2019-02-11 12-56-53 PST Bryce Harrington I noticed some of the work you've been doing there. Been starting to poke at code a bit more. 2019-09-18 05-54-49 PDT Bryce Harrington best chance to reach me on my mobile is probably via email - bryceharrington@yahoo.com 2019-07-02 08-59-47 PDT Bryce Harrington good luck! let me know if there's more I can do to help 2020-11-18 01-25-03 PST Bryce Harrington I've been thinking of CCing Carl to re-take ownership of the project. But Uli is the natural "obvious" maintainer since he's done all the actual recent maintenance work; he seems unwilling to take it over, though, unfortunately. 2019-02-11 12-53-18 PST Bryce Harrington how are things going btw? 2020-11-18 00-53-55 PST Bryce Harrington I don't want to put too much on Mc. 2019-07-02 08-53-41 PDT Bryce Harrington weird interview 2020-11-18 01-49-00 PST Bryce Harrington you may be right that being more explicit would help. I'm not sure on that count - I'd appreciate your advice. 2019-09-13 09-18-00 PDT Bryce Harrington they haven't published the full schedule yet, but from what I've heard it'll be pretty packed days 2018-12-06 12-43-57 PST Bryce Harrington thanks 2019-07-14 13-33-11 PDT Bryce Harrington sure, 14094 SW Tewkesbury Dr, Tigard, OR 97224 2019-02-11 13-02-14 PST Bryce Harrington good. I spent time yesterday clearing things in inkscape/inkscape/issues down, fixed a few, closed a few, bumped a few back to Inbox that need more definition. 36 bugs there now, which seems a lot more approachable than 5000. 2019-02-11 12-58-14 PST Bryce Harrington mainly though wondering since we've been introducing a lot of changes lately, how you're feeling about e.g. bug tracker, etc. 2019-07-02 08-57-57 PDT Bryce Harrington a common way a lot of people get hired on (and how I got hired on originally) was to get involved in the given team's packaging efforts as a community contributor. That was how I got on as X maintainer, I was helping with X bugs and packaging for some months prior 2019-09-13 09-09-42 PDT Bryce Harrington I believe I'm at the Hyatt Regency Paris Etoile, 3, Place Du Général Koenig 75017 Paris, but I should doublecheck 2019-02-11 13-03-32 PST Bryce Harrington hopefully we can chat more about class organization at the scale hackfest. I also noticed going through the DialogManager code that it's accumulated quite a few accessory classes. 2020-11-18 01-01-55 PST Bryce Harrington I had encouraged Mc to take over pixman maintenance to help in these regards. 2020-11-18 00-49-07 PST Bryce Harrington hi tav, had you had any recent contact with kk? I emailed him recently but no response 2018-12-05 20-20-09 PST Bryce Harrington Thanks for the reminder about the meeting announcement, I've sent it. 2019-07-10 08-00-35 PDT Bryce Harrington no, probably better for more active gsoc people to go, I was just assisting on a few admin things 2019-09-13 09-08-15 PDT Bryce Harrington heya Tav, looks like there's nothing planned for Wed and Thurs evenings 2018-12-05 20-21-17 PST Bryce Harrington my mom passed away this morning, and has been on hospice the past few weeks, and I've not been very attentive with Inkscape lately 2019-07-02 08-48-53 PDT Bryce Harrington sorry, done. from what I saw of the other interviewees taking the test with me, it seems quite competitive, with people that were either previously employed doing packaging at canonical or who have been heavily active in debian as packagers 2019-09-13 09-34-47 PDT Bryce Harrington great would be nice to finally meet him 2020-11-18 01-07-31 PST Bryce Harrington in practice, though, it needs someone who can push it forward developmentally and deal with lots of pushback for resulting regressions 2020-11-18 01-26-27 PST Bryce Harrington as crappy I am as a maintainer, I suspect i'm still a better choice than any of them 2020-11-18 01-33-49 PST Bryce Harrington willingness is a big part of the equation but it's only one part. 2019-06-06 16-07-43 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, did you get the announcement? 2020-11-18 01-53-41 PST Bryce Harrington regarding the 'toy api' font rendering, you're completely right that it simply causes a lot of grief. The issue though, is that it wasn't taken into account properly during the testsuite's development. 2020-11-18 00-53-14 PST Bryce Harrington but I can do at least one more release. 2020-11-18 01-04-52 PST Bryce Harrington heh, I need a stiffer drink. 2020-11-18 00-52-27 PST Bryce Harrington I should probably retire as cairo maintainer and hand it over to someone else, but so far not clear who to hand it off to 2019-07-02 08-54-01 PDT Bryce Harrington also was held at 3am my time so that was fun 2019-07-02 08-29-40 PDT Bryce Harrington yep 2019-09-13 09-35-50 PDT Bryce Harrington since everyone in engineering works remotely, it's a time to get together for F2F meetings, trainings, and work 2019-02-11 12-46-34 PST Bryce Harrington they seem to be *very* behind atm 2019-09-18 08-39-39 PDT Bryce Harrington ok 2020-11-18 00-55-55 PST Bryce Harrington he seems to have the time for the technicals but tbh he isn't as good at documenting the efforts, at least for the infrastructural stuff 2019-07-02 08-56-19 PDT Bryce Harrington sorry, I didn't write down the other interviewee names, but if you look up any of the current desktop team members you can see what their backgrounds are 2019-07-02 08-39-30 PDT Bryce Harrington (sorry, in meeting) 2019-09-16 04-43-51 PDT Bryce Harrington great thanks 2019-09-18 05-54-59 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm also on telegram if you're on that 2020-11-18 00-50-55 PST Bryce Harrington yeah I know... see my replies to the cairo ML from today 2019-07-02 08-24-59 PDT Bryce Harrington I suspect snap packaging experience is a particular thing they're looking for, so if you have it highlight it 2019-07-02 08-26-47 PDT Bryce Harrington I took the online test for that position earlier this year 2019-09-18 05-53-11 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, looking forward to it. I don't have cell service here in France, but my number is +1 5044840647 2019-07-02 08-27-04 PDT Bryce Harrington Was an online multiple-choice quiz, with 20 min given to do it, but could be completed in 5-10 min. Questions are like: * What file systems support snapshots * Which of these are packaging systems * Which of these are ways to get administrative rights * Which of these are parts of the OSI level 7 model * Which of these are ways to copy a file * Which of these are ways to show the GNOME display * In which of these languages does tabbing affect program correctness 2019-07-02 08-50-00 PDT Bryce Harrington however, the desktop team has had a position listed on their website for a long time (I remember first seeing it early last year) so maybe they're looking for some super specific skills (beyond just packaging) 2020-11-18 01-01-15 PST Bryce Harrington honestly I'm not sure on that. One of the reasons I took on maintainership for Cairo was in hopes I could influence its direction for inkscape's benefit. And indeed I think I did do one or two changes to benefit Inkscape, however in general it ended up mostly being a ton of work irregardless of Inkscape's actual needs. 2019-07-02 08-54-38 PDT Bryce Harrington only the desktop team did it that way. I don't know if they're still doing testing that way or not. The other two teams I applied for had written tests like I mentioned. 2019-02-11 12-46-03 PST Bryce Harrington #conservancy on FreeNode 2019-09-16 05-21-12 PDT Bryce Harrington great, will see you guys then 2019-09-13 09-16-46 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, confirmed that's the hotel we're at. 2019-09-16 01-22-45 PDT Bryce Harrington heya, yes if you can meet me in Paris around 7pm that'd work great. I can meet you in the hotel lobby at that time and find a place from here. 2019-09-13 09-18-31 PDT Bryce Harrington would be great to get together for dinner wednesday, I'll pencil it in :-) 2019-07-02 08-23-58 PDT Bryce Harrington ah cool. let me know how I can help 2019-07-02 08-28-53 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah I never got asked to interview, no idea why 2019-02-11 13-03-38 PST Bryce Harrington good luck with the meeting 2020-11-18 00-51-22 PST Bryce Harrington I'll have a chunk of time over U.S.A. Thanksgiving holiday and will try to tackle it then