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2020-01-29 08-52-40 PST Nathan Lee Alright, I could make commit it in your name (what's the email you'd want to use? It'll be displayed in git log like `Author: Nathan Lee 2431820-nathanal@users.noreply.gitlab.com`. 2020-01-30 02-41-44 PST Nathan Lee you sure? Wait a moment and I'll send a copy of what it looks like in multicolor now 2020-01-30 01-39-01 PST Nathan Lee Seems fine. (And I think they do) 2020-01-30 01-33-50 PST Nathan Lee btw this one shows up looking like the others (svg shows they are not). Is this intentional? https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/icons/Tango/scalable/... 2020-01-30 02-49-55 PST Nathan Lee Annoyingly the default theme issue revealed. Nothing to be done on our end 2020-01-29 08-49-19 PST Nathan Lee anyhow, if its already enabled, then editing the verbs.cpp file there is all you need 2020-01-29 09-01-33 PST Nathan Lee Not sure how to focus on certain parts of the diff in GitLab but the end of https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1373/diffs lists the changes 2020-12-03 07-21-54 PST Nathan Lee From the general complaints about GTK's direction, I guess they're designing for touch first. 2020-12-03 07-21-01 PST Nathan Lee It's not an outright rejection/close, but yeah, they're probably not going to accept all the changes 2020-01-30 03-08-58 PST Nathan Lee g2g, I'll be afk for a bit 2020-01-30 02-29-38 PST Nathan Lee I forgot to correct a mispelling :sweat_smile: 2020-01-29 08-50-11 PST Nathan Lee Do you want me to walk you through a MR/using git? 2020-01-30 02-49-33 PST Nathan Lee Clipboard - January 30, 2020 9:49 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/AtgXizaw4HWFtAsKz/Clipboard%20-%20Janu...) 2020-01-30 02-34-12 PST Nathan Lee see it. for default I'm not sure (how to check :p) I think its using my Linux Mint one, which is called Mint-Y. Let me check where its located 2020-01-30 02-30-32 PST Nathan Lee no my bad. If we left the mispelling in, no problem lol. 2020-12-03 07-03-47 PST Nathan Lee yeah, agreed. This would make up for the loss of the scrolling across dialogs (I haven't tested much with it, not sure how much it'd take to adjust to the new system) 2020-05-05 07-32-12 PDT Nathan Lee duplicate. Duplicate hasn't been closed. 2020-01-30 02-28-32 PST Nathan Lee nvm found the problem 2020-12-03 07-09-38 PST Nathan Lee :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: 2020-01-30 02-12-05 PST Nathan Lee that sounds right. Not sure what the default theme is (I gone through the options in Inkscape, none of them do this). I'll add screenshots for the changes to the MR in a bit 2020-01-26 00-39-58 PST Nathan Lee From Patrick: Maybe we could actually have a general "canvas" label instead of a "canvas UI" label? Problem with these "combined labels" is that you might end up with a bunch of "$some_component UI" labels that will then potentially be used in parallel to plain "$some_component" labels. Then you need "canvas performance", "canvas UX", etc and before you know it you have dozens of co-existing labels for similar things. So maybe instead of "canvas UI" we could just use "canvas" and "UI" to label UI issues of the canvas itself? This way is also easier to filter, as you can search for issues that have "canvas" and "UI" if you want to find all canvas UI issues, but you also will still find them in both the list of "UI" issues and the list of "canvas" issues. 2020-05-05 07-31-25 PDT Nathan Lee Why'd you reopen the filter region issue? the duplicate is still open.
As an aside, did you create the issue from the conversation above? 2020-01-30 04-03-50 PST Nathan Lee alright :+1: I've separately paste-size and paste-size-separately (just removed the dots) and squashed everything together, you can change it later. List of changes in the MR description 2020-01-30 02-47-37 PST Nathan Lee It doesn't fit with the other icons though (they have white padlock on black)? 2020-02-03 06-56-16 PST Nathan Lee Could you add that as an issue in Gitlab instead? I might try to work on it, but if I do, I'd prefer adding minor refactor, not just throw the icons in (anyhow its a bit late for me) 2020-05-05 07-34-54 PDT Nathan Lee np, just thought it was odd. urgh, wish I had looked into it earlier, the solution I ended up with (unmerged) is the same as what I posted way back :person_frowning: 2020-12-03 07-14-31 PST Nathan Lee :upside_down: 2020-01-30 02-49-32 PST Nathan Lee :shrug: I assume you did the original icon too? 2020-01-30 01-31-58 PST Nathan Lee I'm talking about https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/icons/Tango/scalable/... and https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/icons/Tango/scalable/... 2021-04-11 00-04-19 PDT Nathan Lee sorry, didn't realize, adding it now :+1: 2021-04-10 23-54-53 PDT Nathan Lee Oh, just to clarify, did you want https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/issues/2346 in the blocker list as an embarassing issue? 2021-04-11 00-17-21 PDT Nathan Lee ofc, thanks for testing ( and it's added :)) 2021-04-11 07-29-57 PDT Nathan Lee gonna head off (need some sleep :bed:) cya and nice to talk to ya. (warning that the it will be quite labor intensive, like the conversion from gtk2 to gtk3 (but not as bad)) 2020-12-03 07-26-02 PST Nathan Lee aye :( g2g btw, got limit my night hours, nice talking to you :):) 2020-01-29 15-51-42 PST Nathan Lee going through them now, got some questions
- edit-paste-style looks like its already added to verbs.
- Which verb is edit-clone-link-lpe for?
- Is edit-select-same-fill missing? I'm not sure what edit-paste-style and edit-select-same-stroke correspond to
- Okay to rename edit-select-same-objects to edit-select-same-object-type (just consistent naming) 2020-01-30 02-09-03 PST Nathan Lee Thanks for going through the differences with me. I think I got all the changes. Before pushing, I want to investigate this curious difference
with my Default theme (whatever that is), the old icons show up grey but the new ones are black 2020-01-29 08-46-44 PST Nathan Lee actually I think I found it. See share/ui/menus.xml and how its done for DialogPreferences 2020-01-26 00-39-01 PST Nathan Lee Hey, sorry for the really long delay, but regarding the canvas ui label. Got the okay to create a canvas label (so you add two labels for canvas ui, canvas and ui).
I'm on mobile so I'll just copy over the rationale for splitting it in two 2020-12-03 07-07-43 PST Nathan Lee maybe Tav did try initially :angel: 2020-01-29 09-00-52 PST Nathan Lee it shouldn't take long. What are the icons you wanted? I added Paste Size, Width, Height, Width Separately, Height Separately 2020-01-30 01-29-14 PST Nathan Lee I think we already have edit-select-same-stroke-color and edit-select-same-stroke-style (you added them too). (meld shows stroke-color and stroke are identical) 2020-01-30 02-54-01 PST Nathan Lee though* 2020-01-29 08-43-59 PST Nathan Lee Not sure how either, can look into it tomorrow but a bit late for me now. I'll tell you how it goes 2020-01-30 02-45-02 PST Nathan Lee I changed the green to orange just to see if it worked :p 2020-12-03 05-53-52 PST Nathan Lee I'll mark it as a feature request, but I'll leave the decision to the UX team/you. If you think current behavior is unacceptable for 1.1 release, please move the issue to inkscape/inkscape 2020-01-30 01-30-27 PST Nathan Lee Also in some of them edit-select-same-stroke-style looks identical to stroke-color (in that the stroke is black) 2020-01-30 02-27-32 PST Nathan Lee My screen is a bit small, but could you check edit-paste-width is correct? I think the multicolor symbolic is all black. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1373#note_279387131 2020-01-26 01-45-31 PST Nathan Lee Great. I can't get on gitlab now, but will add it later unless you want to now. Time for more labels!! 2020-12-03 06-17-08 PST Nathan Lee well, if you're confident enough that it is a bug, don't mind moving it either (though moving it has higher priority if it *needs* to be fixed for 1.1). I'd trust your decision on how to proceed with UX decisions. 2020-12-03 07-01-16 PST Nathan Lee alright, moved and prioritised as what you said. Should this be brought up in the next Dev meeting? (Have you been to them? I've been to one or two early on, but meetings are a bit late for me and I'm avoiding staying up that late now :night_with_stars: ) 2020-01-30 02-44-45 PST Nathan Lee Table updated. Its already got a colored appearance in multicolor symbolic 2020-12-03 07-11-03 PST Nathan Lee I was honestly surprised how little we collab with them when I first came to Inkscape. (always thought of them as sister projects) 2020-05-05 07-32-56 PDT Nathan Lee https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/issues/478 here we go (in the related issues list) 2020-12-03 07-12-07 PST Nathan Lee [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/adam.belis?msg=xveM9fFBL7q2KweFC) :shrug: Probably chalk it up to the move away from desktop? :frowning: () 2020-01-30 02-53-56 PST Nathan Lee sure, they look pretty awesome to me :grin: interested discussion in inkscape/UX thoug 2020-01-30 03-01-38 PST Nathan Lee oh, going through now, I've used the same icon for paste size and paste size separately (I guess paste size is wrong, just need to remove the colored squares?) 2020-01-29 08-48-34 PST Nathan Lee sure that as well, just look ;) 2020-05-05 07-34-01 PDT Adam Belis sorry 2020-01-30 01-33-04 PST Adam Belis oh .... yes this should be one 2020-01-30 02-56-20 PST Adam Belis someppl prefer old ugly icons so yeha "D 2020-01-30 02-32-10 PST Adam Belis edit-clone-link-symbolic.svg 2020-01-30 03-07-05 PST Adam Belis snaped on grid 2020-01-30 02-51-42 PST Adam Belis i thought this will be issue anyway 2020-01-30 00-42-18 PST Adam Belis sorry for my sloppines 2020-01-29 08-48-21 PST Adam Belis ede told me its here https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/src/verbs.cpp#L2556-2567 2020-12-03 07-14-18 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-12-03 04-53-29 PST Adam Belis https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/4132 2020-01-30 02-10-16 PST Adam Belis default theme is hicolor right ? 2020-01-29 08-14-10 PST Adam Belis https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/src/verbs.cpp#L2556-2567 2020-01-30 00-39-44 PST Adam Belis edit-select-same-fill-symbolic.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/FgwsA4rjQeKvarjxs/edit-select-same-fil...) 2020-01-30 01-31-48 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 30, 2020 10:31 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jWNkEktnKXbyntuaz/Clipboard%20-%20Janu...) 2020-01-29 11-24-28 PST Adam Belis objects manager 2020-02-03 05-25-44 PST Adam Belis Hello, could i annoye you lit bit and ask you to add new selec icons to context menus ? 2020-01-29 11-28-25 PST Adam Belis totaly new icons.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/4ymtJBXKEbbgq4KSR/totaly%20new%20icons...) 2020-01-30 03-14-50 PST Adam Belis dont worry about it :D 2020-01-29 08-53-44 PST Adam Belis but i dont have file verbs.cpp ready anyway 2020-01-30 01-37-19 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 30, 2020 10:37 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/fwRwXSKJZpiBRCPCM/Clipboard%20-%20Janu...) 2020-01-26 01-37-35 PST Adam Belis hello i think that works 2020-01-30 00-34-39 PST Adam Belis edit-clone-link-lpe (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/tRopzaMrcR3pMKQqE/edit-clone-link-lpe) 2020-01-30 02-32-37 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 30, 2020 11:32 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/B7kvTYj2jiz6kzTqY/Clipboard%20-%20Janu...) 2020-01-30 02-21-06 PST Adam Belis hmmm cannot finde where is this deffined 2020-01-30 01-32-13 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 30, 2020 10:32 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/vvv4YMvKCysc3E6fp/Clipboard%20-%20Janu...) 2020-01-30 02-55-44 PST Adam Belis i am prettz happy with them but as alwazse thez can be improved 2020-02-03 06-57-24 PST Adam Belis ok no problem i ll creat issue if you fill like it you can add it if no thats ok :D 2020-01-30 02-32-52 PST Adam Belis also what icon set do you use ? 2020-05-05 07-31-58 PDT Adam Belis or was that dup ? 2020-02-03 05-25-46 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - February 3, 2020 2:25 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ALAPHtwq628NHL8XG/Clipboard%20-%20Febr...) 2020-01-29 11-24-30 PST Adam Belis svg editor 2020-01-30 02-45-40 PST Adam Belis good good 2020-01-30 01-37-15 PST Adam Belis or do you think this would be better ? 2020-01-30 02-32-17 PST Adam Belis new one 2020-12-03 07-15-54 PST Adam Belis they are not wrong if they desig n their buttons just for touch interfaces 2020-01-30 02-30-00 PST Adam Belis :D SORRYYY :D 2020-01-30 02-48-02 PST Adam Belis it should not fit tnem its totaly difrent tnih 2020-12-03 07-23-04 PST Adam Belis that would not be a problem if it was not balanced with desktop 2020-01-29 08-13-15 PST Adam Belis i dont know how to do MR but i would liek to add this new icons to menus 2020-01-30 03-06-49 PST Adam Belis hmm dont know how that happend 2020-01-30 02-11-04 PST Adam Belis btw thanks for adding it in :D 2020-01-29 11-28-28 PST Adam Belis ties :D 2020-01-30 01-35-59 PST Adam Belis problem is this weare design mainly for multicolor 2020-01-30 02-34-41 PST Adam Belis i lke youre tiled clones dialog better will copy that :D 2020-01-30 02-32-05 PST Adam Belis oh we have one more icon 2020-12-03 07-10-26 PST Adam Belis i would LOOOOVE to make new spinbuttons this could be good projeckt that would benefit ink and gimp 2020-01-30 02-52-26 PST Adam Belis i can see that i will tweek my set for a while till i am 100% done 2020-01-30 01-40-01 PST Adam Belis ok one sec but thsi is just for hicolor and for tango keep multicolor how itr is 2020-01-30 01-36-14 PST Adam Belis ok for now lets say its ok 2020-12-03 07-06-32 PST Adam Belis bad documentation, lots of bugs , 2020-01-30 02-45-56 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 30, 2020 11:45 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/xowKJADJXgspmGEoF/Clipboard%20-%20Janu...) 2020-01-30 02-49-57 PST Adam Belis i started with hi color and change just icons i didnt liked / color them 2020-01-29 08-13-41 PST Adam Belis theoreticlz i know how to add it in file but thats farthes i can get could zou do that ? 2020-01-30 00-38-44 PST Adam Belis - edit-paste-style looks like its already added to verbs. (oh yes sorry my mistake this is not new )
- Which verb is edit-clone-link-lpe for? (screenshot)
- Is edit-select-same-fill missing? (yes sorry I am send it here)
- I'm not sure what edit-paste-style and edit-select-same-stroke correspond to (screenshots)
- Okay to rename edit-select-same-objects to edit-select-same-object-type (just consistent naming) (yes you can do that) 2020-01-29 08-14-09 PST Adam Belis i know that i simply need to add this new new names here 2020-01-30 03-07-11 PST Adam Belis wher sques ends 2020-12-03 07-02-44 PST Adam Belis i can see peaple geeeting anyed at us if it does not perform as good as old system 2020-12-03 07-10-54 PST Adam Belis i tried proposing that on gtk level but they did not liked my redesign 2020-01-30 02-56-00 PST Adam Belis :D and as usal som of this is subjective opinions 2020-12-03 07-09-54 PST Adam Belis but yhea we should colaborat with gimp more often 2020-01-30 02-13-25 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 30, 2020 11:13 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DFNHrKdKZkRGakR9j/Clipboard%20-%20Janu...) 2020-01-30 01-37-51 PST Adam Belis ia mot sure if iconic suport transparency ;/ 2020-12-03 07-14-13 PST Adam Belis yop besicaly they said our spinboxes are ok if you dont like it you should make your own 2020-12-03 04-53-28 PST Adam Belis dont want to sir up more drama could you look in tot his issue and say if its a gug or feature request so we can tag it to move it in to issues ? 2021-04-11 00-03-19 PDT Adam Belis Yes 2021-04-11 00-05-25 PDT Adam Belis Thank you 2021-04-11 02-03-07 PDT Adam Belis no problem i am tring my best :D 2021-04-11 07-30-28 PDT Adam Belis good night mate :D 2020-12-03 07-28-46 PST Adam Belis it was nice to talking with you ....and oh yes take care 2020-12-03 07-05-46 PST Adam Belis here are some lost functionality but we knew that will hapen during developemnt 2020-01-30 02-32-41 PST Adam Belis should be there 2020-01-30 02-45-54 PST Adam Belis or maybe this ? 2020-01-30 03-07-00 PST Adam Belis but should be without squest and bigger 2020-12-03 07-15-39 PST Adam Belis https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/2963#note_880485 2020-01-30 03-05-59 PST Adam Belis one sec 2020-01-30 02-48-09 PST Adam Belis its dialog 2020-01-30 00-41-32 PST Adam Belis edit-same-stroke (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/kQaCZPZkxgCHFhyX6/edit-same-stroke) 2020-01-30 02-48-51 PST Adam Belis hmmm not sure 2020-12-03 07-01-47 PST Adam Belis i atemp them semi regulary 2020-01-30 03-11-29 PST Adam Belis fuck i notices small mistake with all of part icons ... ok i will fix it later 2020-12-03 06-34-04 PST Adam Belis personaly i think it is a bug with low priority BUT it does need to be fixed to 1.1 2020-01-30 02-50-42 PST Adam Belis i touched every singel one but started with icons form original hicolor 2020-01-30 02-09-48 PST Adam Belis this is porbably goign to be setted in som css in the theme 2020-12-03 07-09-27 PST Adam Belis welll its too late for that anyway :D 2020-01-30 04-10-33 PST Adam Belis Thanks I will fix it with new lpe icons ( have to do that don't know how yet) 2020-01-30 02-28-49 PST Adam Belis whats a problem ? 2020-01-30 02-49-25 PST Adam Belis dont know 2020-01-30 02-40-44 PST Adam Belis could you add this to multicolor them PLEEEEES 2020-01-30 01-40-27 PST Adam Belis share_icons_Tango_scalable_actions_edit-select-same-stroke-style.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/4JW7djro2f2yXZZzd/share_icons_Tango_sc...) 2020-01-30 02-49-00 PST Adam Belis baybe you are right and keep it as it is :D 2020-01-30 02-52-36 PST Adam Belis i stil dont like how LPE icons look 2020-01-26 01-45-58 PST Adam Belis :D its not so urgent it can wait 2020-05-05 07-34-55 PDT Adam Belis got it back how it was 2020-01-29 08-53-11 PST Adam Belis adam.belis@gmail.com 2020-12-03 05-56-33 PST Adam Belis i think its ux bug but think (could be wrong need user testing) that we can live with this in 1.1 (there are bigger issues ) and is edge case 2020-12-03 07-01-53 PST Adam Belis thank you for moving it 2020-01-29 11-25-40 PST Adam Belis select same 2020-01-30 02-40-34 PST Adam Belis dialog-tile-clones-symbolic.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/tN3vyqKCYiJyYCPT6/dialog-tile-clones-s...) 2020-01-29 08-12-48 PST Adam Belis Hi could i aske you for a favour ? 2020-05-05 07-33-56 PDT Adam Belis hmmmm ... ok i got cofused i thought this was diffrent issue 2020-12-03 07-06-12 PST Adam Belis gtk is nightmare to work with :D 2020-05-05 07-35-18 PDT Adam Belis i think this is big shame that this didnt got in 2020-12-03 07-02-24 PST Adam Belis yes new docing system has to be priority for 1.1 2020-01-30 01-35-46 PST Adam Belis hmmmm hmmmm ... kind off 2020-01-30 02-09-54 PST Adam Belis or the icon set 2020-05-05 07-31-50 PDT Adam Belis becouse its still borken 2020-12-03 07-04-41 PST Adam Belis i have been using it fol loner its qait good but just few bugs here an there 2020-01-30 02-52-48 PST Adam Belis but its good enough for now 2020-12-03 07-11-38 PST Adam Belis yeah basicly thare is almost no colaboration 2020-01-30 01-30-00 PST Adam Belis they are diffrent 2020-12-03 07-05-01 PST Adam Belis but now i am wondering why we just did not steal gimp code 2020-01-29 08-50-49 PST Adam Belis i would prefer if you do it :D buut i could also leran it but not today
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