On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 9:21 PM Martin Owens <doctormo(a)geek-2.com> wrote:
We have a set of people who are contractors; that means they are
free
to provide to this project their paid work time, if the project will
take it.
Why would we not take contributions if everything is kosher? Our bar to
contribute is pretty low, so if they have commit access, who is going to
interfere? Their outside arrangements with 3rd parties aren't really the
project's business if everything is above board. Also, why not mention
volunteers? Why were they left out?
But there is a sense of snobbery from our fully employed
members of this project, who don't seem to see why people's business
hours shouldn't be given away for nothing. It's disrespectful and you
absolutely need to stop assuming that this is a hobby for everyone.
For anyone less familiar with the project that might read this and the
phrasing that could be misinterpreted, we don't have "fully employed
members of this project" in relation to the project, apparently it's a dig
at people with outside full time jobs that volunteer their time to the
project. Also what's with the plurality of members in that group? Care to
share some names? It seems pretty evident that Ted would likely be one of
them (and he clearly thought so too), so being more explicit would be
helpful to understand what you're saying and about who. I'd say that your
approach here and vagueness was pretty disrespectful in itself.
This project needs more than hobby time. There are too many users
who
depend on Inkscape for their jobs. It's time we stopped being so
careless with their work tools, especially when they have gifted us
their money so we can do paid work for them.
I won't disagree that the project needs some paid work. It probably needs
quite a bit no doubt depending on a person's use case and needs. I'd argue
that if people are depending on Inkscape for their jobs, it's probably
meeting their needs relatively well already (undoubtedly not perfectly, but
probably sufficiently). I'm not saying it can't be made better for them,
but you start asking those users and I'm pretty sure that the wide variety
of needs out there make it incredibly difficult to prioritize whose needs
we should be tackling first.
As for people donating their money, most donations over the years (when
I've seen a note/memo) are generally communicating thanks or appreciation,
not asking for us to add or improve feature X. Why would you assume such a
thing? This is kind of sounding familiar to prosperity gospel preacher
logic (it makes it seem like your motivations seem less about the project
and the community needs and more about your wants/desires).
All of that aside, this was a weird thread to have a discussion about this
topic. Given your framing, how does a release video improve the actual tool
itself for our users? Whose needs does it address? What are the performance
gains, bugs fixed, or tangible user-facing improvements to the tool? This
vote was about funding for a video, to which nobody actually voted against
it. Since this was not something which improves the software/tool itself
and the post-vote discussion seems a bit emotionally charged for what the
vote was as well as the results. If the vote had been for software
improvements that are out of scope for volunteer time/complexity and
funding for that, why are you assuming how people would vote in THAT
situation anyway when there weren't any outright "No" (number 2) votes
here?
Cheers,
Josh