Fair enough. So knowing that there are as many or more things to show in
this video as in the previous two, are you willing to change your vote?
Asking for a friend. ;)
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 19:49 Josh Andler <scislac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I wasn't trying to impune anyone's hard work or efforts or
has gone into it. My use of the word "minor" was simply indicating the
format of 1.2.0 (major.minor.point/bugfix). It wasn't any form of
commentary. If the current release notes are an indication of how much is
undocumented given your convincing pitch vs what's listed then they're
woefully in bad shape. And no, that's not a dig at anyone's contributions
or calling anyone out because things weren't well documented while being
worked on, but going on that page alone it's not /feeling/ like a "BIG
DEAL" for this community member (especially with the lack of Multipage,
that would be a game changer alone).
I'm also going to throw out there that something as major as Multipage (if
it's really primetime ready) might merit a "major" release... it's
significant of a change imho (yes, I'm suggesting that alone could merit a
2.0). However, version numbering is obviously something different people
have different views on and this also isn't the place for that discussion.
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 2:38 AM C R <cajhne(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Just some notes RE: the 1.2 video:
> A ton of work has been done for this "minor" release. For reference, I
> try to highlight 10-12 of the most exciting changes in a release video, at
> that price point.
> Not to mention that these release notes are incomplete, and don't include
> things like Doc's much anticipated multipage features, which (I think) will
> also go into the 1.2 release.
> These things are a BIG DEAL for the community.
> In the end, we're going to have to choose which of all the amazing new
> features and fixes will go into the video - we will not struggle to find
> things to highlight.
> I can assure everyone there's /at least/ as much work that will happen
> for this video as for the last two videos. Indeed, there will be *more*
> work with this video to re-do some of the style, change the music, and add
> more UX motion graphics, which people in the project have been asking for
> to elevate Inkscape's videos to the level of Blender's, for example.
> The video also includes animation of the about screen contest winner's
> art. This is an important community building facet of each release, and
> should go in the video.
> With a year's worth of work from so many of our dedicated developers, UX
> folks, etc, it seems a shame to say this is a minor release, and treat it
> like a second class citizen in regards to the previous two.
> Just some thoughts to help make the decision more clear vs deliverables.
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:53 AM Josh Andler <scislac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> I vote 3.
>> In looking through the release notes, I'm not sure $2,500 is merited for
>> a video of this minor release (I'm stating that as opposed to a major
>> release, not saying it's not significant... just that I don't know how
>> there is to demo in a "sales pitch" way). I am not against funding for
>> but it's not a trivial amount of money for the apparent lack of changes in
>> many regards (again, going based on release notes there are non-trivial
>> changes in some areas and just a lot of stuff that you can't demonstrate
>> quickly for the places that received substantive changes w/o the video
>> focusing too much on any one area and then not being good at promotion as
>> opposed to explanation). I'd probably suggest $1,000-$1,500 instead for
>> this. I'm interested to see if funding seems to make a difference. That
>> said, I'd be more comfortable starting a little smaller given the lack of
>> uniform votes for a farewell gift for Bryce and his 20+ years of
>> involvement in Inkscape and it's related projects. I'm not opposed to
>> full amount, my preference is a smaller start with a less "amazing"
>> than the past two.
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 11:58 AM Martin Owens <doctormo(a)geek-2.com>
>>> Dear Leadership Committee,
>>> You attention is required to vote on funding for the Inkscape 1.2
>>> release video for 2022. As previously mentioned in our budget meeting,
>>> we have in our project a well respected video creator who makes videos
>>> for Gnome, the SFC and has made two previous Inkscape release videos
>>> and who needs funding for their work in the coming year.
>>> We as a project benefit from having a good looking and timely release
>>> video and this funding will enable our contributor, Chris Rogers, to
>>> spend the needed time without overwork.
>>> Videos for reference:
>>> 1.1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlS0zKXsdvo
>>> 1.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6UHXkND4Sc
>>> Gnome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae2D4aWTsXM
>>> GUADEC Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9e0cyrryRY
>>> Conflict of Interest:
>>> * Chris Rogers is a member of this committee and will not be able to
>>> vote on this measure as a matter of conflict of interest.
>>> 1. Spend $2,500 on a release video for Inkscape 1.2
>>> 2. Do not spend any money on a release video
>>> 3. Something else...
>>> Thanks everyone.
>>> Best Regards, Martin Owens
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