Hi,
I finally got around to doing a review of the code of conduct as I agreed to do at the last IRC board meeting. I apologize for taking so long. I think the text looks great! I also think it might be time to remove the "draft" stuff (Work in Progress at top, copies of other code of conducts at bottom.)
I made some minor editing changes:
* "Even if" -> "For example, if" (avoid awkward repeating of "even")
* "are conflicted" -> "have a conflict of interest"
* "feeling" -> "feel"
* "parent organization" -> "collaborating organizations" (We don't really have a parent organization and the text should apply, for example, to our internet hosts.)
Tav
Thanks Tav,
I've edited it up and we'll start considering this a non-draft live document from now.
https://inkscape.org/en/community/coc/
Changes can still be made, but we're basicalyl done with this task. Thanks everyone!
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 13:08 +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Hi,
I finally got around to doing a review of the code of conduct as I agreed to do at the last IRC board meeting. I apologize for taking so long. I think the text looks great! I also think it might be time to remove the "draft" stuff (Work in Progress at top, copies of other code of conducts at bottom.)
I made some minor editing changes:
"Even if" -> "For example, if" (avoid awkward repeating of "even")
"are conflicted" -> "have a conflict of interest"
"feeling" -> "feel"
"parent organization" -> "collaborating organizations" (We don't
really have a parent organization and the text should apply, for example, to our internet hosts.)
Tav
Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
2015-11-20 5:19 GMT-08:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...23...>:
Thanks Tav,
I've edited it up and we'll start considering this a non-draft live document from now.
https://inkscape.org/en/community/coc/
Changes can still be made, but we're basicalyl done with this task. Thanks everyone!
Great :)
I like the graphic at the top.
I added my e-mail in the reporting section as discussed during the board meeting. Ideally there should also be Martin's e-mail for reporting problems on the website, but so far it looks OK.
Just in case: how do we "ban" someone from the mailing lists? I assume administrator access to the mailing list is required? And how do we expunge messages with dox material from the archives? I know it's unlikely we'll have to do any of this in the near future, as our contributors are in general well-behaved, but we should do a "fire drill" to ensure that we know how to handle a problem.
Best regards, Krzysztof
On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 23:45 -0800, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
Just in case: how do we "ban" someone from the mailing lists? I assume administrator access to the mailing list is required? And how do we expunge messages with dox material from the archives? I know it's unlikely we'll have to do any of this in the near future, as our contributors are in general well-behaved, but we should do a "fire drill" to ensure that we know how to handle a problem.
Good question. It's something we'll have to practice on the new mailing lists too... as soon as we've gotten everything live :-)
Martin,
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...119.....> wrote:
Just in case: how do we "ban" someone from the mailing lists? I assume administrator access to the mailing list is required? And how do we expunge messages with dox material from the archives?
I'm the admin for the User list on SF and I dug around a bit for banning and there two ways to go about restricting things. 1) Banning. There is an actual ban list for each mailing list. We currently have no people on the ban_list for the user mailing list. 2) Limiting participation. Allow someone to remain subscribed but set their posts to be moderated... which would be a pre-ban/probation step imho.
Unfortunately, I didn't see any way to expunge archived messages, only attachments. This should definitely be a requirement of whatever we move to. Even if not outright deleted, it needs to be non-visible in public archives.
Cheers, Josh
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 07:12:43PM -0800, Josh Andler wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...39...3...> wrote:
Just in case: how do we "ban" someone from the mailing lists? I assume administrator access to the mailing list is required? And how do we expunge messages with dox material from the archives?
I'm the admin for the User list on SF and I dug around a bit for banning and there two ways to go about restricting things. 1) Banning. There is an actual ban list for each mailing list. We currently have no people on the ban_list for the user mailing list. 2) Limiting participation. Allow someone to remain subscribed but set their posts to be moderated... which would be a pre-ban/probation step imho.
I'm the admin for the remaining (non-user) lists, and I routinely ban spammers. Banning someone from inkscape-devel@ is technically easy enough.
I've been involved in banning of project members in other open source projects prior to my involvement in Inkscape, and I really, really don't want to have to go through that again. I'm proud this has only come up once in our project, and hope it never is an issue for us in the future.
Unfortunately, I didn't see any way to expunge archived messages, only attachments. This should definitely be a requirement of whatever we move to. Even if not outright deleted, it needs to be non-visible in public archives.
My memory is cloudy, bug I vaguely recall having to do this once before in Inkscape mailing lists. I don't remember how we accomplished the expunge, but I think we might have had to work through SourceForge tech support.
In any case, I agree it's a great idea we should practice doing an expunge with our new mailing lists. If we have to go through OSUOSL to do it, then that might be an issue as it may risk adding undesireable delay to the procedure.
Bryce
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2...
wrote:
In any case, I agree it's a great idea we should practice doing an expunge with our new mailing lists.
The only concern I have is whether it should be expunged completely, or akin to how record are expunged in the US justice system... it's removed from both public and privileged view, but it can be "recovered" in special circumstances. I would assume we would want special recovery available, but if people want to push against that we should probably seek the advice of SFC.
Cheers, Josh
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