Dear Diederik,
I don't know if you remember, but late in January we talked about the snapping facilities of inkscape. I apologise for taking so long to reply, but my PhD has finished and I was searching for a job, plus the development builds for windows stopped working for several weeks.
I wanted to reply and finally have got round to doing so!
I've downloaded the latest snapshot this morning, and I _love_ the snapping tooltip which pops up - it's a great feature. Thanks so much !
Please find the whole message at the bottom of this e-mail, but the part I wanted to reply to was this one:
Similarly, if you want to pick a line up _from_ its center it does not appear when you hover close to the center of the line with the select tool
Exactly what should appear? The source snap-indicator? Works for me, sorry ;-). Have you enabled both "display snap indicator" and "only snap
I'm finding it hard to describe what I meant when I said "pick up a line _from_" so I thought a video may help, showing inkscape vs. corel.
In both cases I'm drawing two rectangles (snapped to grid) then translating one so it exactly touches the corner of the other.
When I was saying pick up the box _from_ it's corner in corel the 'node' tooltip pops up before I click to select the object, while in inkscape it's not clear that I'm holding the corner as I translate the object (although as you correctly say indeed it is), and only appears as I finally position it.
I think it would be clearer if the tooltip popped up to show which part of the object is _about_ to be selected ala corel.
Also if only 'snap to nearest' is selected the tooltip only needs to display on screen what is being snapped _to_ since in the corel approach what is being snapped _from_ is displayed at the time of selection. (As opposed to inkscape's which says both in the tip)
I've put both videos on a web-site I look after (a small UK collectors association) and hope you will have chance to watch:
www.lockcollectors.eu/corel.avi (9mb) www.lockcollectors.eu/inkscape.avi (9mb)
Again, I really appreciate you fantastic effort with this very useful feature and hope to hear from you.
Best Wishes, Alex
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Diederik van Lierop wrote:
On 01/16/2009 02:30 PM, A.J. Carter wrote:
If changing the shape of the snap indicator is a lot of effort in the long term, would it be possible to have a 'tooltip' pop up with it in the shorter term to say ("intersection") to indicate that the current X is the intersection of two objects. When things are close together it would help to see what exactly is snapping at that moment to ensure precision.
I'd prefer a tooltip too, I think. There are just too much different types of snap targets (currently about 15) to give each a different indicator. It will be hard to determine what has snapped, based on only a small indicator. We could however decide to have only two distinct indicators, i.e. one for snapping to a point (fully constrained) and one for snapping to a line (1 degree-of-freedom left). The tooltip would then tell exactly what was snapped to.
I think this may be what you were talking about earlier but in my tests if you draw a line, click elsewhere to deselect it, and then draw a new one with the start 'snapped' to the end of the exsting one the 'snap indicator' does not appear.
No, it was something else. But what you describe works for me though. The snap-indicator really does appear! You're probably already using the latest development build, so I won't question that ;-). Could you describe the steps to reproduce this as accurate as possible and send me a sample file?
Similarly, if you want to pick a line up _from_ its center it does not appear when you hover close to the center of the line with the select tool
Exactly what should appear? The source snap-indicator? Works for me, sorry ;-). Have you enabled both "display snap indicator" and "only snap the node closest to the pointer" in the preferences dialog, and is snapping to/from midpoints turned on in the snapping toolbar?
Re the icons, as someone from a more technical drawing background I have to admit that I do find the corel/autocad ones to be a little more intuitive personally. For example the second from the right, I would assume to mean 'snap to intersection' (i.e. between any two objects where the line/curve of a shape crosses any other line/curve on the same or a different object, whereas from the tooltip it seems to be "snap to the intersection of a grid with a guide".
Yes, that one is ambiguous because we have to different buttons for snapping to intersections, one for intersections of paths and one for intersections of grids/guides. One of these days I'll add two more buttons next to that one, one for toggling the snapping to grids and one for toggling snapping to guides. Maybe then things will become a bit more intuitive.
Regards,
Diederik
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