On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 16:11 -0700, John Taber wrote:
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 14:04, Alan Horkan wrote:
Nothing to see here, move along please.
I would disagree - since SVG support is very important to us in the SVG community and if the Mozilla team is holding it back, then the question becomes what can we do to encourage them along. Answer:
- Promote (and yes I mean stick a link right on the home page of Inkscape)
the use of a beta version with SVG amongst the SVG community to help the Mozilla team flush out SVG bugs (this is what I meant by promoting an "underground" Firefox w/ SVG version). Maybe use the last cvs before the last release (1.01) so the rest of Firefox is pretty stable for us to use on a regular basis.
Well, I like this idea. I would support advocacy on Inkscape.org and Openclipart.org of getting SVG into Mozilla yesterday. I think similarly that putting svg into moz. builds by default now will flush out the bugs much quicker than having it not compiled in by default.
- help the Mozilla team resolve whatever decisions they need to make
regarding SVG features vis a vis the CSS conflicts Mitchell mentions.
This would be good as well. Go for it!
- this activity will also help demonstrate demand for SVG to bump it up in
the Mozilla priority list
Yes, it is generally true that the more hands that are up in the air, then the more attention it will get. I'm afraid that that Firefox is so hungry for market share that they are giving that the most attention...but that is good as well as supporting web standards...
Sitting on our hands waiting for them is not very pro-active - we should be glad it's this far along and jumping on their work - otherwise it only justifies the lower priority it may be receiving. Now anyone have a SVG .deb package that I can use with my Ubuntu? (I'm not sure how to dig into the CVS to get the right version).
I tend to agree with you, but I also don't want to anger moz svg and moz ppl. in general by seeming too radical in bent. I think that we should promote SVG more than we are currently. Right now we basically using SVG as a file format for illustration/drawing and are not capitalizing on it as a dynamic/interactive major web format. Imagine surfing all SVG web pages! We really need to think about how we are emphasizing SVG. I'm open to more suggestions.
I think one good approach would be to develop a strategy between Openclipart.org, Inkscape and mozilla svg to support SVG in the browser. This could take the form of some web buttons/banners and a page supporting adoption. This could be housed either on Openclipart.org or Inkscape.org. Do you know how to edit our webpage? Are there any volunteers to push this? Look at how Firefox has the spreadfirefox.org...why don't you start something like spreadsvg.org !
Jon
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