Actually, now that I've uploaded it, I'm not actually to keen on the shape
of it. Think I'll make it symmetrical, and use the curve just to indicate
movement. It just looks strange sitting there motionless, with the curve in
it like that. :P
Ah well. Tomorrow's another day.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:31 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
Had to help save a baby squirrel tonight, but did manage to make
some
progress despite the time-sink. Based on the feedback, here are some
changes to the animation (no sound just yet though).
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/inkscape_intro_animation...
Enjoy.
-C
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:59 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
> For those who have not seen Google's tremendously handy open font
> library, you view/download it here:
>
https://www.google.com/fonts
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:55 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
>
>> I'd rather use libre fonts where possible. Something that comes with a
>> SIL, Apache, or cc0 font license/rights waiver.
>> I don't want anything with attribution requirements. All materials, imho
>> should be libre so people are free and protected against other people suing
>> them for helping the Inkscape project. There is a true wealth of excellent
>> scripty fonts, and Roman-Caps serif fonts. I'll pick the closest matches
>> and maybe we can vote on it or something. :) If someone has a reason for
>> really wanting to use proprietary fonts, artwork, etc. for branding I
>> can... but I'd like to avoid it if at all possible.
>>
>> -C
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Andler <scislac@...400...> wrote:
>>
>>> Per Jabier's reply, the branding folder contains a file that has the
>>> proper branding for the text elements. They're vector, so it should be
>>> easy to work with. Obviously the newer logo is what should be used
>>> (which you're already doing).
>>>
>>> I don't recall what font was used for INKSCAPE, but it was a Pushkin
>>> font that was used for Draw Freely.
>>>
http://www.paratype.com/pstore/fonts/pushkin.htm It was created by
>>> someone with a license for the font, but it does raise the question
>>> about how we feel about proprietary stuff used for our brand.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:35 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > And Yes, though there doesn't seem to be a consistent style for
>>> writing
>>> > "Draw Freely".
>>> >
>>> > This leaves me with some options:
>>> >
>>> > 1. I could choose a version I like from the website (my favorite is
>>> the one
>>> > accompanying the vector Bird graphic). Is there a vector asset for
>>> this? I
>>> > could trace it from the graphic, but this is more work.
>>> >
>>> > 2. I could write it myself, since I have decent handwriting. If like
>>> to do
>>> > it in Inkscape with my Wacom tablet, however it seems that pressure
>>> > sensitivity is broken in my version of Inkscape for the time being.
>>> >
>>> > 3. I could ask if there it already a repo for Inkscape branding
>>> stuff, and
>>> > if there isn't, start one. :)
>>> >
>>> > Any thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > Is the font used in INKSCAPE title an open font? If not, I'm
tempted
>>> to raid
>>> > Google's web fonts for a Libre alternative.
>>> >
>>> > -C
>>> >
>>> > On 1 Sep 2015 1:30 am, "Josh Andler" <scislac@...400...>
wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Looks great so far! I assume you know already (by your
description),
>>> >> but the assets for "Inkscape" and "Draw Freely"
from the about screen
>>> >> should be used to keep the branding consistent. Looking forward to
>>> >> seeing the next iteration!
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Josh
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:21 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...>
wrote:
>>> >> > Quick video template update (to keep bullshit from walking ;)
)
>>> >> > I've almost completed the intro animation, but got bogged
down
>>> with some
>>> >> > emergency charity work that a friend required last-minute.
>>> >> > I wanted to add in the sound effects, which I've recorded
myself,
>>> but
>>> >> > ran
>>> >> > out of time tonight.
>>> >> > However, here is a quick wip sample for your Monday night
>>> amusement:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>>
www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/inkscape_intro_animation_wip.ogv
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The title "INKSCAPE" will fade in underneath and
"Draw Freely"
>>> will be
>>> >> > scribbled in underneath it as last additions.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks for the patience. Hope everyone's collective weekend
has
>>> been a
>>> >> > pleasant one. :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > More soon.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -C
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:31 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...>
wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> PS- Speaking of crowd-funding, be sure to visit Synfig Open
Source
>>> >> >> Animation Studio's crowdfunding campaign and show them
some love!
>>> :)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>>
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/synfig-free-animation-software#/story
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM, C R
<cajhne@...400...> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> So I'm getting late to this discussion. I
guess it sounds like
>>> >> >>>> people
>>> >> >>>> are
>>> >> >>>> ready to do this!
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> This will be an ongoing project, so input is great at
any stage.
>>> >> >>> You're
>>> >> >>> not late either, it's early times still. :)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> (sorry, kind of long)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Also never a problem. More information is better!
>>> >> >>> Welcome to the discussion, and thanks for your advise!
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> I'm of the opinion that there is no lack of
tutorials in the
>>> Inkscape
>>> >> >>>> community. I've done some both intensive and
extensive
>>> searching for
>>> >> >>>> Inkscape tutorials, to compile a centralized source
of
>>> tutorials, for
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>> community (something I saw lacking in the
community, and wanted
>>> to
>>> >> >>>> provide).
>>> >> >>>>
http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Thanks for the link, and for your work collecting and
vetting
>>> these
>>> >> >>> resources! :) I'll have a look through these,
I'm sure they will
>>> be
>>> >> >>> quite
>>> >> >>> useful not only in determining the best way to proceed,
but in
>>> terms
>>> >> >>> of
>>> >> >>> information content and possible linking from the
finished
>>> >> >>> documentation
>>> >> >>> (pending approval from the parties that made them). It
may also
>>> be
>>> >> >>> good to
>>> >> >>> have two video sections that link off the main
Inkscape.org
>>> website,
>>> >> >>> one to
>>> >> >>> a set of official tutorials, and the other to the
growing set of
>>> >> >>> excellent
>>> >> >>> community-done resources.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> For the tool feature videos, it would be useful to have
small
>>> official
>>> >> >>> videos to accompany the documentation. I find that
it's quite a
>>> matter
>>> >> >>> of
>>> >> >>> preference which people prefer (written or video
tutorial). Even
>>> my
>>> >> >>> own
>>> >> >>> preference changes depending on my moods, so having
both
>>> available is
>>> >> >>> no bad
>>> >> >>> thing.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Official videos have manifold purpose:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -They provide concise context-relevant information that
we can
>>> include
>>> >> >>> alongside the documentation for Inkscape. This saves
time having
>>> to
>>> >> >>> google
>>> >> >>> for videos of the information at hand, so more time can
be spent
>>> >> >>> learning in
>>> >> >>> a streamlined way, that it may not be possible to get
from even
>>> a list
>>> >> >>> of
>>> >> >>> several thousand user-contributed videos. There will be
a lot of
>>> >> >>> repeating
>>> >> >>> concepts that are covered in user-videos, but there
will also be
>>> be a
>>> >> >>> lot of
>>> >> >>> gap-filling as well.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -They provide more content-rich
inkscape.org, which
adds to the
>>> >> >>> professional image of the project, and is important for
trust and
>>> >> >>> provides a
>>> >> >>> nicer experience for new users. I've lost count how
many times
>>> people
>>> >> >>> posting on the forums have been told to "google
it" (even though
>>> I
>>> >> >>> reached
>>> >> >>> these comments BY Googling!). Why should they have to
google it?
>>> Users
>>> >> >>> can
>>> >> >>> spend more time learning, and less time reading what
other users
>>> think
>>> >> >>> about
>>> >> >>> their issue on forums (that's time saved in hours
across possibly
>>> >> >>> hundreds
>>> >> >>> of comments). We are in the unique position to provide
an
>>> answer, on
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> spot, that is guaranteed to be the correct one. :)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -They are a resource under the project's control.
One of the
>>> >> >>> criticisms
>>> >> >>> that our open source community faces is that
information is
>>> >> >>> scatter-shot,
>>> >> >>> and you may not be able to find resources, or links may
be
>>> broken to
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> original content, or the content may only be available
in some
>>> >> >>> countries.
>>> >> >>> Having control over our content ensures we can reach
the most
>>> people.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -They give us another opportunity to connect with more
users.
>>> This is
>>> >> >>> important not only for development purposes, but also
for social
>>> media
>>> >> >>> campaigns for development acceleration, appearing at
graphics
>>> >> >>> conventions,
>>> >> >>> etc. (I do all my convention-booth graphics in
Inkscape, btw. So
>>> >> >>> thanks
>>> >> >>> again to all the Inkscape devs for making life easy for
me!)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -It enhances the public image of Inkscape as a
professional
>>> resource
>>> >> >>> for
>>> >> >>> serious designers. Great-looking well-thought out
videos are a
>>> must
>>> >> >>> for a
>>> >> >>> project like Inkscape! :) Every video serves as yet one
one more
>>> >> >>> advertisement for the Inkscape project. The more of
them there
>>> are,
>>> >> >>> the more
>>> >> >>> eyes are likely to see them. We can capture search
keywords as
>>> well
>>> >> >>> with
>>> >> >>> each video, gaining the project more exposure.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -It provides an opportunity for us to teach best
practices for
>>> >> >>> professional design workflows, as well as educate new
users, and
>>> ease
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> transition from commercial software packages. (If you
Like
>>> >> >>> Illustrator,
>>> >> >>> you're going to LOVE Inkscape!) :D
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> So I'm bewildered with complaints of people not
being able to
>>> find
>>> >> >>>> tutorials. I did that all with my handy internet
search engine.
>>> >> >>>> Nothing
>>> >> >>>> fancy, I can assure you! I wonder if maybe those
folks just
>>> have not
>>> >> >>>> ventured outside of DA, in their search?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Or their search terms didn't turn up any relevant
videos. One of
>>> the
>>> >> >>> problems with video content is if you are looking for
something
>>> very
>>> >> >>> specific, you may have to hunt through lots of
complete
>>> tutorials,
>>> >> >>> hoping
>>> >> >>> they cover the thing you want to know. This problem is
solved
>>> more
>>> >> >>> easily
>>> >> >>> with feature-focused videos, accompanied by all
relevant
>>> keywords. The
>>> >> >>>
inkscape.org website should also contain a search box
to search
>>> these
>>> >> >>> keywords in our own collection of official videos. I
also
>>> recommend an
>>> >> >>> expandable tree-style map of our videos providing a way
to click
>>> down
>>> >> >>> and
>>> >> >>> feel out what you are searching for (handy if you
don't know
>>> what a
>>> >> >>> feature
>>> >> >>> is named).
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> For example, a piece of the tree could go:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> +Tools
>>> >> >>> -Select and Transform Tool
>>> >> >>> -Edit Paths By Nodes Tool
>>> >> >>> +Tweak Objects Tool
>>> >> >>> - Tool Overview
>>> >> >>> - Using Different Modes
>>> >> >>> - Width, Force, and Fidelity - Getting the
effects you want
>>> >> >>> + FAQ / Troubleshooting
>>> >> >>> - Why does the rest of my shape turn into a
glob?
>>> >> >>> - It's only working on some objects, but
not others
>>> >> >>> - etc.
>>> >> >>> -Zoom Tool
>>> >> >>> -Measurement Tool
>>> >> >>> -Rectangle/Square Tool
>>> >> >>> -etc.
>>> >> >>> -Working with Shapes
>>> >> >>> -Working with Layers
>>> >> >>> -Working with Groups
>>> >> >>> -Selecting
>>> >> >>> -Filters
>>> >> >>> -Exporting
>>> >> >>> +Using Colours
>>> >> >>> -What is a colour space?
>>> >> >>> -What is a colour system?
>>> >> >>> +FAQ / Troubleshooting
>>> >> >>> -My printer wants an Illustrator (.ai) file,
arrrgh!
>>> >> >>> -My greens are looking too Blue in print
>>> >> >>> -My blacks are too grey in print
>>> >> >>> +What should I use for my project?
>>> >> >>> +Can Inkscape use PANTONE colours?
>>> >> >>> -Pre-Press Considerations
>>> >> >>> -etc. etc.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Note that only certain branches of the tree need
videos. Others
>>> could
>>> >> >>> have a quick animated gif with a text explanation.
It's
>>> important to
>>> >> >>> include
>>> >> >>> all the written and video materials together, so
visitors do not
>>> have
>>> >> >>> to
>>> >> >>> visit different sections of the website to find the
information
>>> they
>>> >> >>> are
>>> >> >>> after.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Nevertheless, I do think it's important that
there are
>>> "official"
>>> >> >>>> tutorials.
>>> >> >>>> There was some talk a few months ago about building
a
>>> Documentation
>>> >> >>>> team,
>>> >> >>>> and I would certainly look forward to participating
in such a
>>> group
>>> >> >>>> (although iirc, it was only going to happen when
someone had
>>> more
>>> >> >>>> time.....I
>>> >> >>>> don't remember the exact details anymore).
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I would be happy to assist the Documentation team.
>>> >> >>> I would be equally happy to help assemble it if those
involved
>>> >> >>> previously
>>> >> >>> do not presently have the time.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> I think more *official* tutorials are needed, than
the 6 or so
>>> >> >>>> currently
>>> >> >>>> available. But I have serious reservations about
video
>>> tutorials
>>> >> >>>> with
>>> >> >>>> music
>>> >> >>>> background and no narration. I have never seen
such a video
>>> that I
>>> >> >>>> found
>>> >> >>>> was helpful, in my opinion.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> There will be narration, it will just be textual,
step-by-step,
>>> rather
>>> >> >>> than voiced over.
>>> >> >>> There is nothing preventing people from adding voice
overs, but
>>> I'd
>>> >> >>> like
>>> >> >>> to start cranking out as many of these videos as
possible, and
>>> I'm not
>>> >> >>> convinced my voice would be pleasing enough. :)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> (You may notice there are probably less than 5
>>> >> >>>> YouTube vids on my page. It's because I
haven't found many
>>> >> >>>> worthwhile,
>>> >> >>>> that
>>> >> >>>> aren't connected to a proprietary venture.)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Yes, control over the videos is a key benefit of doing
them
>>> ourselves.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Videos from the Screencasters (heathenx/Richard
Querrin) series
>>> are
>>> >> >>>> still
>>> >> >>>> the best video tutorials around, imo (even though
now somewhat
>>> >> >>>> dated).
>>> >> >>>> I
>>> >> >>>> think they represent the standard we should strive
for, if
>>> there is
>>> >> >>>> some
>>> >> >>>> consensus that video tutorials are needed more that
text
>>> tutorials.
>>> >> >>>> Although I haven't seen any indication of a
need for video
>>> tutorials,
>>> >> >>>> more
>>> >> >>>> than text. It's just trendy, afaict.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> For the longer videos, I'd agree, but for feature
documentation
>>> >> >>> videos,
>>> >> >>> we will need more concise and much shorter videos with
less
>>> banter,
>>> >> >>> and none
>>> >> >>> of the "subscribe, rate, etc." stuff. :)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> That sounds like a cute idea for an intro to the
tutorials
>>> (the
>>> >> >>> bouncing
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> bubbles, etc.), but honestly, that's the fun
part of making
>>> >> >>>> tutorials.
>>> >> >>>> Has
>>> >> >>>> anyone volunteered to make the actual tutorial part
of the
>>> videos?
>>> >> >>>> (I
>>> >> >>>> haven't finished with reading the whole thread
yet.)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I'm volunteering for both at this point, but once
we have the kit
>>> >> >>> (which
>>> >> >>> includes the finished intro/outro, and caption
overlay), it will
>>> be
>>> >> >>> easier
>>> >> >>> to enlist others to help with the tutorial parts
>>> (screen-captures, and
>>> >> >>> captioning).
>>> >> >>> It may sound fun and trivial, but the intro, format
and
>>> templates are
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> ground-work for a professional video series. They will
make the
>>> >> >>> tutorial
>>> >> >>> content consistent, and MUCH easier to do. The point of
these
>>> initial
>>> >> >>> steps
>>> >> >>> is to produce a kit that we can use to make quick,
professional
>>> >> >>> looking
>>> >> >>> videos with Inkscape branding. While I will have the
initial
>>> sample
>>> >> >>> completed this weekend, I suspect we will change it a
bit based
>>> on
>>> >> >>> feedback.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Thanks for listening,
>>> >> >>>> brynn
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Thanks for your input and thoughts! They help
tremendously.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -C
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> >> >>>> From: "Martin Owens"
<doctormo@...400...>
>>> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:53 AM
>>> >> >>>> To: "Inkscape Devel List"
<inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
>>> >
>>> >> >>>> Subject: [Inkscape-devel] User Help (tutorials)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >
>>>
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>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >
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