3:02 p.m.
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the
Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To
enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the
Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from
0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight
unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands
the creative range of the tool.
--
bulia byak
Inkscape. Draw Freely.
http://www.inkscape.org
3:50 p.m.
Hello!
On 3/30/06, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the
Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To
enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the
Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from
0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight
unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands
the creative range of the tool.
Sounds neat! Do you have a screenshot for that?
Greetings!
Daniel Díaz
yosoy@...31...
4:11 p.m.
On 3/30/06, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the
Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To
enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the
Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from
0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight
unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands
the creative range of the tool.
On 3/30/06, Daniel Díaz <mrchapp@...400...> wrote:
Sounds neat! Do you have a screenshot for that?
We definitely need a good, big, complex, stunning screenshot for the
web site demonstrating what can be drawn with Calligraphic, with or
without pressure sensitivity and tremor. But I'm not that much of an
artist to do it all by myself. Artists needed! :)
If you don't want to do the entire screenshot, but if you have any
interesting, neat, or funny drawings or sketches (no matter how small)
made with Calligraphic pen, please send me the SVGs. When I have
enough good ones, I will assemble/compose them into a screenshot with
full credit to the original authors.
Oh, and if you have any SVGs or screenshots of the other recently
added stuff, it's welcome too. I hereby open the 0.44 Screenshots
Season! :)
--
bulia byak
Inkscape. Draw Freely.
http://www.inkscape.org
5:23 p.m.
bulia byak wrote:
On 3/30/06, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
> Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the
> Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To
> enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the
> Calligraphy tool in this version. Adjustable in the Controls bar from
> 0.0 to 1.0, it will affect your strokes producing anything from slight
> unevenness to wild blotches and splotches. This significantly expands
> the creative range of the tool.
>
This tremor stuff is wicked cool! Only tried with mouse so far, so I
can't wait to get home to try with the tablet.
On 3/30/06, Daniel Díaz <mrchapp@...400...> wrote:
> Sounds neat! Do you have a screenshot for that?
>
We definitely need a good, big, complex, stunning screenshot for the
web site demonstrating what can be drawn with Calligraphic, with or
without pressure sensitivity and tremor. But I'm not that much of an
artist to do it all by myself. Artists needed! :)
I'm willing to do it. I think that for an updated calligraphy screenshot
we'd benefit to have half the screenshot drawn with tablet, the other
with just a mouse (labeled accordingly). That way people can see what
can be done with each. I've actually been playing with the calligraphy
tool a bit at home recently just to get really "inky" results. I know I
can definitely do some interesting and fun stuff, but if you want actual
calligraphy we're probably better off finding someone with better
penmanship for that part.
Shall we update the Calligraphy tutorial as well to reflect the new
parameter?
Oh, and if you have any SVGs or screenshots of the other recently
added stuff, it's welcome too. I hereby open the 0.44 Screenshots
Season! :)
Does this mean I can whip up the Gaze - Outline View one, or should I
still wait? This one is cake since the document exists and it's a quick
view toggle and screencap, so if there are any potential UI changes that
I should wait on it's all good.
-Josh
9:12 p.m.
On 3/30/06, Joshua A. Andler <joshua@...533...> wrote:
> We definitely need a good, big, complex, stunning screenshot for
the
> web site demonstrating what can be drawn with Calligraphic, with or
> without pressure sensitivity and tremor. But I'm not that much of an
> artist to do it all by myself. Artists needed! :)
>
I'm willing to do it. I think that for an updated calligraphy screenshot
we'd benefit to have half the screenshot drawn with tablet, the other
with just a mouse (labeled accordingly).
Yes, or just 2 screenshots :)
That way people can see what
can be done with each. I've actually been playing with the calligraphy
tool a bit at home recently just to get really "inky" results. I know I
can definitely do some interesting and fun stuff, but if you want actual
calligraphy we're probably better off finding someone with better
penmanship for that part.
We already have an old one on calligraphy proper (i.e.
letter-writing). Now I think we need to cover drawing, not writing
with that tool.
Shall we update the Calligraphy tutorial as well to reflect the new
parameter?
Sure.
Does this mean I can whip up the Gaze - Outline View one, or should
I
still wait? This one is cake since the document exists and it's a quick
view toggle and screencap, so if there are any potential UI changes that
I should wait on it's all good.
I think we can create and start filling the 0.44 screenshots page, and
your screenshot can be first :) The only reservation with regard to
UI is that I'd like the shots to not show the docked palette, because
of the size issue and menu button issue that Jon Cruz has not fixed
yet. When and if these are fixed, we'll do a separate screenshot
showing the palette.
--
bulia byak
Inkscape. Draw Freely.
http://www.inkscape.org
10:16 p.m.
bulia byak wrote:
> I'm willing to do it. I think that for an updated calligraphy
screenshot
> we'd benefit to have half the screenshot drawn with tablet, the other
> with just a mouse (labeled accordingly).
>
Yes, or just 2 screenshots :)
I'll see what I can come up with. :)
We already have an old one on calligraphy proper (i.e.
letter-writing). Now I think we need to cover drawing, not writing
with that tool.
That's what I thought but wanted to make sure I didn't run with an
assumption.
> Does this mean I can whip up the Gaze - Outline View one, or
should I
> still wait? This one is cake since the document exists and it's a quick
> view toggle and screencap, so if there are any potential UI changes that
> I should wait on it's all good.
>
I think we can create and start filling the 0.44 screenshots page, and
your screenshot can be first :) The only reservation with regard to
UI is that I'd like the shots to not show the docked palette, because
of the size issue and menu button issue that Jon Cruz has not fixed
yet. When and if these are fixed, we'll do a separate screenshot
showing the palette.
Palette is hidden. Here she is for the outline view, we may want to
re-save as a jpeg *shudder* due to size as it's 1.6megs... and I'll
probably regret posting this link ;)
http://www.scislac.com/inkscape/inkscape-0.44-view-outline.png
Is there anything else you would like this to show or anything you'd
like for me to change? Any additional info you want/need?
-Josh
6:40 p.m.
On 3/30/06, Joshua A. Andler <joshua@...533...> wrote:
I'd prefer it to show the open View menu and Mode submenu, to
demonstrate the feature. Other than that it looks good.
In your blurb, you can give a link to the full color rendering and/or
SVG, boast about the number of objects in it, etc. :) Make it
entertaining and informative.
Will you be willing to coordinate the 0.44 screenshots page - request
and communicate with authors, upload files, write (or help authors
write) blurbs etc? I did this last times but I'm afraid I won't have
as much free time this time.
If you agree to take this on, please use pngcrush on the PNG files you
upload (use PNG, not JPG, even if it's larger). To create thumbnails,
I used:
convert -geometry 267 <name>.png <name>_thumb.png
I think you have permissions to edit the web site pages; if not let me know.
--
bulia byak
Inkscape. Draw Freely.
http://www.inkscape.org
7:26 p.m.
bulia byak wrote:
On 3/30/06, Joshua A. Andler <joshua@...533...> wrote:
> http://www.scislac.com/inkscape/inkscape-0.44-view-outline.png
>
I'd prefer it to show the open View menu and Mode submenu, to
demonstrate the feature. Other than that it looks good.
In your blurb, you can give a link to the full color rendering and/or
SVG, boast about the number of objects in it, etc. :) Make it
entertaining and informative.
Will do!
Will you be willing to coordinate the 0.44 screenshots page -
request
and communicate with authors, upload files, write (or help authors
write) blurbs etc? I did this last times but I'm afraid I won't have
as much free time this time.
Sure. :)
If you agree to take this on, please use pngcrush on the PNG files
you
upload (use PNG, not JPG, even if it's larger). To create thumbnails,
I used:
convert -geometry 267 <name>.png <name>_thumb.png
I think you have permissions to edit the web site pages; if not let me know.
Ah, never used pngcrush before, I'll be able to check it out early next
week (wrapping things up today for a weekend trip). I should have
permissions with the web site stuff, I've edited around the site before.
I'm also trying to make note of all the tutorial updates I know we'll
need, so please tell me what I should also add to this list. I will
start working on these next week, so over the next couple weeks you will
see the commits start trickling in.
Basic - Add information about the Current Style widgets and how to use
them. I also didn't see mention of "unset" or patterns in there for fill
types, should those be added with basic info?
Basic/Advanced - Whichever has info about Align & Distribute, add
information about Remove Overlaps.
Calligraphy - Add information and examples for Tremor.
Advanced - Add information about Bezier Dragging to the node editing
section.
Tracing - Add instructions and information about SIOX.
unsure - ClipPaths and Masks, do they merit their own tutorial? Or
should I put a small blurb and examples of each in Basic or Advanced?
unsure - Does Clones merit it's own tutorial? I think that the clone
tiler alone could have a tutorial, but I don't particularly have a
preference.
unsure - Should we start an Effects tutorial since they will be on by
default on win32 in the next release?
misc - update anything that shows the interface or icons to reflect any
changes.
You know, looking back on all this... should we perhaps (ask permission)
and look into including Tavmjong Bah's - A Guide to Inkscape in the next
release? Tutorials can truly be tutorials, and purely informational
stuff would just be in the main documentation. What are the thoughts on
this?
-Josh
4:37 p.m.
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
unsure - Should we start an Effects tutorial since they will be on by
default
on win32 in the next release?
Well, if you're willing to write one, yes! :)
I'm working on adding "help" support into the individual effects, so that
they can be self documenting. I think that is a better approach overall,
but I wasn't thinking it would be "tutorial style". Having interactive
tutorials for the 'big' effects would probably be good. I should probably
think about allowing individual tutorials... hmm...
--Ted
5:08 p.m.
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ted@...11... wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
> unsure - Should we start an Effects tutorial since they will be on by
> default on win32 in the next release?
Well, if you're willing to write one, yes! :)
I'm working on adding "help" support into the individual effects, so
that they can be self documenting.
Tell me more. :-)
Aaron Spike
8:58 p.m.
New subject: Effects Help (was NEW: calligraphic tremor)
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Aaron Spike wrote:
> I'm working on adding "help" support into the
individual effects, so that
> they can be self documenting.
Tell me more. :-)
:) Well, it isn't really complete enough for an announcement. The idea
is to just put a tag in the INX file which can include help information.
I already have a button on the preferences dialog and a tab in the
extension editor, but there isn't any text in that tab yet.
--Ted
10:47 p.m.
New subject: Effects Help (was NEW: calligraphic tremor)
ted@...11... wrote:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Aaron Spike wrote:
>> I'm working on adding "help" support into the individual effects,
>> so that they can be self documenting.
>
> Tell me more. :-)
:) Well, it isn't really complete enough for an announcement. The
idea is to just put a tag in the INX file which can include help
information. I already have a button on the preferences dialog and a
tab in the extension editor, but there isn't any text in that tab
yet.
What is an extension editor? There is a button in the Inkscape
preferences dialog?
I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui dialogs
we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on,
since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
Aaron Spike
10:54 p.m.
New subject: Effects Help (was NEW: calligraphic tremor)
On 4/15/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote:
I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui
dialogs
we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on,
since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
Not quite - I just tried latest build on WinXP and all I got was this:
The inkex.py module requires PyXML. Please download the latest version
from <http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/>;.
So looks like we must also include PyXML in the windows builds
somehow, if we want effects to work out of the box (and we DO want it,
I hope :)
--
bulia byak
Inkscape. Draw Freely.
http://www.inkscape.org
11:09 p.m.
New subject: Effects Help (was NEW: calligraphic tremor)
bulia byak wrote:
On 4/15/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote:
> I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui dialogs
> we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on,
> since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
Not quite - I just tried latest build on WinXP and all I got was this:
The inkex.py module requires PyXML. Please download the latest version
from <http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/>;.
So looks like we must also include PyXML in the windows builds
somehow, if we want effects to work out of the box (and we DO want it,
I hope :)
Could I please have the url of the build you just tried?
Aaron Spike
12:48 a.m.
New subject: Effects Help (was NEW: calligraphic tremor)
On 4/15/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote:
Could I please have the url of the build you just tried?
http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/Inkscape0604141337.zip
--
bulia byak
Inkscape. Draw Freely.
http://www.inkscape.org
1:44 a.m.
New subject: Effects Help (was NEW: calligraphic tremor)
On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 17:47 -0500, Aaron Spike wrote:
What is an extension editor? There is a button in the Inkscape
preferences dialog?
Well, there will be an option in the help menu. It is currently
commented out in the menu skeleton, as the dialog isn't polished enough
for public consumption. But, you're welcome to uncomment it if you'd
like to see what I'm thinking. Don't blame me if it formats your hard
drive and burns down your house :)
I think as soon as we have to explainitory text on the autogui
dialogs
we can remove the "EXPERIMENTAL" preference and default effects to on,
since Bob solved the other problem by including python on win32.
I'm working on that currently. Basically finishing off the preferences
so that they can be used for the path effects also. That is one of the
features that I'm adding also. Depending on schedule, it is highly
likely that'll be in for 0.44.
--Ted
7:03 p.m.
Lo all,
LGM was good for us, but it is sure that users have often to few
examples of what can be done with the functionnalities. i'm aiming to
work on that with Inkscape as i did for Scribus :
http://www.le-radar.com/articles/scribus/pdf/ReleaseNote133.pdf .But
it's evident i won't be able to illustrate all new stuffs. May be we
should add a page on the wiki for that. But anyone can contact me
directly. If i could be informed of releases some days before, it could
help.
Cedric (pygmee)
2:44 p.m.
bulia byak wrote:
Even when using a graphics tablet with pressure sensitivity, the
Calligraphy pen's strokes often look too smooth and artificial. To
enable a more natural look, the new Tremor parameter is added to the
Calligraphy tool in this version.
I know I already said it was wicked cool, and even thanked you on Jabber
last night... but I'm having a great time working on the screenshots and
I feel compelled to say THANK YOU again! It's just that good. :)
-Josh
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