Re: [Scribus] Scribus on VNU.NET
On Thursday 10 March 2005 20:15, Louis Desjardins wrote:
Hi everybody!
The Frenchspeaking readers on this list will appreciate the following link. It brings you to the Dossier published in Feb. 05 in SVM Mac. There are no screenshots. However, there are many links and a Fink how-to.
http://svmmac.vnunet.fr/dossiers/logiciels/utilitaires/20050309001
Happy reading!
Bonne lecture!
Louis _______________________________________________
For those who are not French speakers or have not read the articles, the text version was very in depth group of articles about not just Scribus, but Inkscape and GIMP.
For a major Mac publication to give it such broad coverage is in itself very significant.. To me, it says to their readers who might not truly understand OSS benefits, 'these are worthy applications'.
What I found most pleasing was they highlighted the applications strengths: Inkscape's attention to UI detail and ease of use, along with prominently Scribus PDF export.
Worth a look, if you can get it.
Cheers, Peter
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, PLinnell wrote:
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:36:00 +0100 From: PLinnell <mrdocs@...715...> To: scribus@...746... Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Re: [Scribus] Scribus on VNU.NET
On Thursday 10 March 2005 20:15, Louis Desjardins wrote:
Hi everybody!
The Frenchspeaking readers on this list will appreciate the following link. It brings you to the Dossier published in Feb. 05 in SVM Mac. There are no screenshots. However, there are many links and a Fink how-to.
http://svmmac.vnunet.fr/dossiers/logiciels/utilitaires/20050309001
For those who are not French speakers or have not read the articles, the text version was very in depth group of articles about not just Scribus, but Inkscape and GIMP.
A lot of the 8 page article is not very important, the first few pages are introduction - the usual polemic about how great open source is and how proprietary software should be worried - where and how to get the software etc.
Page 4 is about Scribus Page 6 is about the GNU Image Manipulation Program.
Page 8 is about Inkscape, more specifically Inkscape version 0.39
(Automated translation tools are still awful almost funny but I'm not going to further translate it from Pidgeon to proper English) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvmmac.vnunet.fr%2Fserv... (the link is to a translated version of the print version of the page, less clutter but some browsers will pop the print dialog on you)
The author seems to have had problems with dialogs obscuring the menus but been pleased at importing SVG from Inkscape into Scribus and generally impressed at how much progress had been made in just one year but still not as good as the proprietary alternatives (but he didnt say them in that order and it seems like a fairly generous review).
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
Inkscape, Draw Freely http://inkscape.org Abiword is Awesome http://www.abisource.com
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 05:19:54AM +0000, Alan Horkan wrote:
(Automated translation tools are still awful almost funny but I'm not going to further translate it from Pidgeon to proper English) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvmmac.vnunet.fr%2Fserv... (the link is to a translated version of the print version of the page, less clutter but some browsers will pop the print dialog on you)
Thanks for posting this. :-)
The author seems to have had problems with dialogs obscuring the menus but
Yes, that was a known bug on OSX. I don't recall whether that issue was solved. IIRC, it was something funky with the Gtk libs we were including.
been pleased at importing SVG from Inkscape into Scribus and generally impressed at how much progress had been made in just one year but still not as good as the proprietary alternatives (but he didnt say them in that order and it seems like a fairly generous review).
I'm actually quite surprised at how positive the review was, given how woefully incomplete our OSX port is, coupled with how flush Mac is with other graphics software. If we're getting halfway decent reviews on OSX already, that's pretty amazing.
Bryce
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 09:45:43PM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
I'm actually quite surprised at how positive the review was, given how woefully incomplete our OSX port is, coupled with how flush Mac is with other graphics software. If we're getting halfway decent reviews on OSX already, that's pretty amazing.
Well, the opening paragraph did give a warning about the difficulties of using free software: e.g. requiring terminal windows, launching an X11 session, requiring compilation due to absence of prebuilt binaries in some cases (not sure if true of inkscape itself); one can only launch the apps by using a terminal window or by creating a custom applescript script; different user interface from MacOSX; typically not as helpful as MacOSX apps when something goes wrong; shortcuts can be different between different apps, and certainly different from MacOS apps.
The page on inkscape does say that the list of missing features is long; it specifically mentions 3D, typographical effects, OpenType ligatures, gradient meshes, "elaborate transparence effects such as in Photoshop" (what does this mean?), no palettes in tabs.
pjrm.
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:32:09 +1100, Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:
The page on inkscape does say that the list of missing features is long; it specifically mentions 3D, typographical effects, OpenType ligatures,
What are they and how they are different from regular ligatures? Anyone has an idea?
gradient meshes, "elaborate transparence effects such as in Photoshop" (what does this mean?),
This means opacity modes (hard light, multiply, etc.). They are in SVG 1.2 and we'll get them for free when we switch to Cairo.
What I found especially funny in this article is that they liked Inkscape's gradient handling - in 0.39! But on the other hand, considering the extremely clumsy and primitive gradient tool in Adobe Illustrator (again, in version 9, don't know about later versions), this is not so surprising...
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:07:10PM -0400, bulia byak wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:32:09 +1100, Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:
The page on inkscape does say that the list of missing features is long; it specifically mentions 3D, typographical effects, OpenType ligatures,
What are they and how they are different from regular ligatures? Anyone has an idea?
When I type `fill', inkscape/pango doesn't automatically convert the `fi' to a ligature; maybe illustrator does.
(I'm using pango 1.8, CVS inkscape, Linux, libxft2 2.1.2.)
Incidentally, I did try replying to the article; not sure if I used the right address though. I said that the menus-beneath-windows problem seems to depend on window manager: e.g. someone said that the problem stopped when he switched to "kwin" (which I take to mean the kde window manager). I also mentioned the improved gradient tool in the up-coming 0.42 (thanks bulia!), pointed to cedric's excellent french user manual (as the article mentioned twice the need to know english) and a couple of other things.
pjrm.
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:52:15 +1100, Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:07:10PM -0400, bulia byak wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:32:09 +1100, Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:
The page on inkscape does say that the list of missing features is long; it specifically mentions 3D, typographical effects, OpenType ligatures,
What are they and how they are different from regular ligatures? Anyone has an idea?
When I type `fill', inkscape/pango doesn't automatically convert the `fi' to a ligature; maybe illustrator does.
I'll need to check this out (or maybe someone knowing AI can help?) Inkscape can insert the fi ligature by pressing Ctrl+U fb01, but it may be nice to have an automated way to do this.
Am Mittwoch, den 16.03.2005, 13:03 -0400 schrieb bulia byak:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:52:15 +1100, Peter Moulder <Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:07:10PM -0400, bulia byak wrote:
When I type `fill', inkscape/pango doesn't automatically convert the `fi' to a ligature; maybe illustrator does.
I'll need to check this out (or maybe someone knowing AI can help?) Inkscape can insert the fi ligature by pressing Ctrl+U fb01, but it may be nice to have an automated way to do this.
Perhaps this liks help: http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/newfeatures.html http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/vector/movie_swf.html
Tobias
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:10:56 +0100, Tobias Jakobs <tobias.jakobs@...128...> wrote:
http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/vector/movie_swf.html
Thanks, that helped! There's no automatic ligature substitution, you just select a text and give it a command to convert it to ligature. We can easily do that. And by the way they sell it as a new feature in the latest version...
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 22:10, Tobias Jakobs wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 16.03.2005, 13:03 -0400 schrieb bulia byak:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:52:15 +1100, Peter Moulder
<Peter.Moulder@...38...> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:07:10PM -0400, bulia byak wrote:
When I type `fill', inkscape/pango doesn't automatically convert the `fi' to a ligature; maybe illustrator does.
I'll need to check this out (or maybe someone knowing AI can help?) Inkscape can insert the fi ligature by pressing Ctrl+U fb01, but it may be nice to have an automated way to do this.
Perhaps this liks help: http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/newfeatures.html http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/vector/movie_swf.html
Tobias
Dont think Adobe will help you out.. however, I think *some* of the code you will need is in pango, perhaps more in Qt.. yes.. Qt.
Craig
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