Well, I think we're hitting the home stretch here.
I've folded in most of the main functional changes, including scrolling, pop-up menus, in-place editing of layer names, and not rebuilding the entire tree every time you select a different layer.
Depending on how robust things are, I may be able to add the eye and lock icons, and to switch the status bar's layer selector to use the same layer manager back-end. However, any poking at it people can do in the mean time would be helpful.
Jon A. Cruz a écrit :
However, any poking at it people can do in the mean time would be helpful.
Just compiled svn and I have a few notes about layer dialog
1) renaming a layer works great by double clicking its name, single clicking meaning just selecting the layer. But this only works when there are more than one layer in the document. Basically, with a new document, there's only one layer, and single clicking renames it. I think it should be fixed.
2) when deleting a layer, the layer just above it is selected, but if you stay on the remove icon, it isn't active for clicking anymore, one should put the mouse out the icon's scope and come back to it to delete the selected layer. I think it's the same behavior in all gtk apps (hélas). Is it intended to be so, or can we hack into this to make it more "user friendly" ? BTW, I think I already read this kind of remark recently on the list, but can't find the post.
3) when hacking lock and visibility icons, could you look to make it all "compatible" (say not already coded, but which could be done with the UI elems you'll use) with this behavior : to toggle multiple layers visibility (or locking) at once, click on the visibility icon in front of a layer, drag in the same column and visibility toggles on all layer lines you cross. I think it works like this in a few apps I used to use, but can't recall which (AI maybe, but I quit long time ago). I'd really like this feature to be in. The reason I say it now (instead of waiting after the 0.44 release and doing it myself) is that it may be UI related and GTK may (as in my second point above) be a real pain in the ass to change the behavior of these particular UI elements... So if it could be coded with this in mind, maybe choices could be clearer on how to do it. BTW, maybe toogling is not the to-be-prefered behavior, instead, if you hide a layer and drag over other layer's same icon, it doesn't toogle but hide... reverse if you click the first layer visibility on, other layer's visibility'll be enabled... I checked and GIMP hasn't got that feature, but really should in my POV.
Feel free not to think alike.
mtou
On May 18, 2006, at 4:29 AM, Mathieu Dimanche wrote:
- when deleting a layer, the layer just above it is selected, but
if you stay on the remove icon, it isn't active for clicking anymore, one should put the mouse out the icon's scope and come back to it to delete the selected layer. I think it's the same behavior in all gtk apps (hélas). Is it intended to be so, or can we hack into this to make it more "user friendly" ? BTW, I think I already read this kind of remark recently on the list, but can't find the post.
Strange. I'm not seeing that here. I'm on GTK+ 2.6.10
Is the button icon dimmed, or does it just not have an effect?
2006. 05. 18, csütörtök keltezéssel 08.58-kor Jon A. Cruz ezt írta:
On May 18, 2006, at 4:29 AM, Mathieu Dimanche wrote:
- when deleting a layer, the layer just above it is selected, but
if you stay on the remove icon, it isn't active for clicking anymore, one should put the mouse out the icon's scope and come back to it to delete the selected layer. I think it's the same behavior in all gtk apps (hélas). Is it intended to be so, or can we hack into this to make it more "user friendly" ? BTW, I think I already read this kind of remark recently on the list, but can't find the post.
Strange. I'm not seeing that here. I'm on GTK+ 2.6.10 Is the button icon dimmed, or does it just not have an effect?
Only the first click have effect.
I have written a similar issue yesterday:
- when you click multiple time on the 'Raise current layer' icon (or
the 'lower current layer'), only the first click seems to working. The second click does not move the current layer above an another one layer. However I you click on an another icon and reclick the 'Raise current layer' it works again. I hope its clear;)
Khiraly
Khiraly wrote:
- 18, csütörtök keltezéssel 08.58-kor Jon A. Cruz ezt írta:
Strange. I'm not seeing that here. I'm on GTK+ 2.6.10 Is the button icon dimmed, or does it just not have an effect?
Only the first click have effect.
Jon, this is what I had mentioned a couple nights ago. Same thing for me both on win32 and Linux. Only the first click on the button is obeyed (while still hovering on that button)... then if you move the cursor off the button and back on, you can click it one time again... so if you want to move a layer downward 4 steps in the stack, you have to leave the button 3 times to accomplish it.
-Josh
On May 18, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
Jon, this is what I had mentioned a couple nights ago. Same thing for me both on win32 and Linux. Only the first click on the button is obeyed (while still hovering on that button)... then if you move the cursor off the button and back on, you can click it one time again... so if you want to move a layer downward 4 steps in the stack, you have to leave the button 3 times to accomplish it.
So, which version of GTK+ are you guys running?
That could be a factor. I'm doing some other changes that might correct that, but it's best to see an explicit cause so we can track it better.
Jon A. Cruz wrote:
On May 18, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
Jon, this is what I had mentioned a couple nights ago. Same thing for me both on win32 and Linux. Only the first click on the button is obeyed (while still hovering on that button)... then if you move the cursor off the button and back on, you can click it one time again... so if you want to move a layer downward 4 steps in the stack, you have to leave the button 3 times to accomplish it.
So, which version of GTK+ are you guys running?
GTK+ 2.8.17 for both win32 & Ubuntu Dapper
-Josh
It is working well here too. Great.
I just had a couple of feature ideas, i hope they can help.
1. Well we select an object on the canvas, the layer is automatically selected. Well. But we a layer is activated how can i know the object included in ? May be a Alt+Click on the layer line could show inner objects.
2. It would be nice if a sublayer could be move from one layer to another. It could be done by default (may be displaying a confirm window) or also use a modifier on up, down, bottom and top window. /!\ the move to above layer command can't do that !!
3. duplicating layer would also be nice. I think this could be simple to do as it must be just like duplicating a group.
cheers. pygmee
On 5/19/06, cedric GEMY wrote:
- Well we select an object on the canvas, the layer is automatically
selected. Well. But we a layer is activated how can i know the object included in ? May be a Alt+Click on the layer line could show inner objects.
I've just been asked the very same question. Will it be possible to reach individual objects from layers dialog?
Alexandre
On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 14:07 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
I've just been asked the very same question. Will it be possible to reach individual objects from layers dialog?
No. The layers dialog is for working with layers only.
However, layers also show up in the XML dialog if you need to work with individual objects or look at the contents of a layer that way. The XML dialog will be also expanded in future versions to make working with SVG objects easier.
-mental
Hi,
Layers dialog looks good! With a limited amount of playing with the dialog I don't see any serious problems. I do have one comment:
I would expect that the XML editor dialog and Layers dialog to have a similar interface (as much as possible). Moving layers around in the Layers dialog should be just like moving groups or objects around in the XML editor dialog.
A few suggested changes would be to add the ability to promote a sub-layer to layer in the Layers dialog and changing the arrow icons in the XML Editor diagram to use the ones used by the Layers dialog.
Tav
Am Donnerstag, den 18.05.2006, 02:52 -0700 schrieb Jon A. Cruz:
Depending on how robust things are, I may be able to add the eye and lock icons, and to switch the status bar's layer selector to use the same layer manager back-end. However, any poking at it people can do in the mean time would be helpful.
Hi Jon,
the Layer-Dialog is really helpful. On thing that would be grate, and I'm missing is drag and drop support. I'd like to drag an layer out of inkscape into the path-dialog in gimp and back.
MfG Tobias
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