On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 11:04:08AM -0700, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
mental@...32... wrote:
Quoting Bryce Harrington <bryce@...983...>:
We've turned off logging on the Jabber channel, at Ishmal's request. He felt it would give a better sense of privacy for discussions if there were no logs. The logs up until Oct 30 will be kept.
We have also added a robots.txt file to prevent google searching/caching of the old logs.
Hmm, I always found the logs to be a valuable resource; particularly being searchable via google.
IMO, the Jabber channel is not the place for really private discussion.
I agree that it's not the place for really private discussion, but there are some things that get logged that are still of a "less than want to be googlable" nature. I also agree that the logs can be valuable. What if we have them logged and internally searchable, but only accessible to devs?
Yeah I'm with you guys, I was a bit disappointed to have to turn them off, since I've also found them handy for catching up on discussions, or searching for past discussions where useful info or decisions were made. (Actually I'm a bit surprised - I had gotten the feeling that most people disliked having the channel logged and that I was in the minority, but it looks like the reverse could be true...)
The issue as I understand it was strictly a privacy one. I guess the idea being that if someone can google your name and find something you said 2 years ago, it could be taken badly or something. The complaint is that this stifles developer discussion on the channel, since you have no idea who might be "looking over your shoulder".
I'd love to see us find a better compromise solution than the current one, so am glad to see this getting discussed in depth. Hopefully Bob can chime in with thoughts on his position as well.
Bryce