Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

draw a circle adjust outline to 3mm Set stroke paint to "none" *Stroke width now indicates 0.000*

Victor: Thank you! I did not know about the Logos by Nick videos. Ken On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:59 AM Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...155...> wrote: > Hi ken, > > Inkscape it is really amazing and can do a ton of things... you just have > to take some time to learn it. > > I would say that watching the Channel "Logos by Nick" on youtube is a > really good start. > > He teaches things from begin to end and teaches a lot of cool stuff. > > Wish you all the best, > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:53 AM, K B <kmb999@...155...> wrote: > >> C R: >> I guess I was looking to do some real simple basic stuff and came into a >> very robust program with many bells and whistles that made it more >> complicated >> and harder to learn. Wished they had a "Lite version" so I could get up >> and running >> right away. I am not a professional illustrator, just want to create >> fairly simple Line Designs. >> >> Ken >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:42 AM C R <cajhne@...155...> wrote: >> >>> We are working hard to make it better and easier and more intuitive to >>> use. You can certainly help our efforts by donation to the project - every >>> little bit helps. >>> >>> In the meantime it's probably easier to learn Inkscape's quirks and >>> just work around them for now. I've been using Inkscape as a professional >>> designer for over 7 years now, and once you get the hang of it, it's not so >>> bad. A lot of bugs have been fixed since I first started using it, and lots >>> of new features added. Mostly I'm grateful for devs who have helped and >>> continue to help solve problems, and help where I can, and for community >>> members who help users and make videos on how to use Inkscape. >>> >>> Your feedback also helps, so thanks for bringing it to our attention! >>> >>> -C >>> >>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 10:27 K B, <kmb999@...155...> wrote: >>> >>>> Brynn/CR: >>>> >>>> I agree with you 100%. I can still remember when I first used it; it >>>> was >>>> so frustrating! It did not preform like you think it would. I also >>>> was just trying >>>> to use the eraser, but it did not erase part of the image like I >>>> thought it would. >>>> If I had a lot of extra money, I would probably just start using >>>> Adobe's Illustrator. >>>> Ken >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:48 AM C R <cajhne@...155...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The problem is there is no agreed upon solution. But I think Inkscape >>>>> should never draw an invisible object anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Particularly, >>>>> >>>>> 1. If both fill and stroke are set to none, Inkscape should resort to >>>>> the Inkscape default setting of the bezier tool, which is black and white >>>>> without dashed lines. Drawing an invisible shape is an error. >>>>> >>>>> 2. If the user modifies the line width, and the line is set to >>>>> "none", Inkscape should set the colour of the line to the Inkscape default >>>>> : black. >>>>> >>>>> I think this is a better solution than setting the default behaviour >>>>> of Inkscape to a bad workflow - users should not be getting used to having >>>>> to change the colour of the line and stroke each and every time they draw >>>>> something. It is not intuitive because when you draw in real life you pick >>>>> up a pen which is the colour you want and draw with it until you are done, >>>>> then choose another colour when you want a different one. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -C >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 07:59 K B, <kmb999@...155...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Brynn: >>>>>> Thank you for the Link about the Bug fix. Since Inkscape is free, >>>>>> maybe the creators >>>>>> are not very motivated to fix everything about it ? >>>>>> >>>>>> If it were a high price program like Adobe Illustrator, there would >>>>>> have enough money to >>>>>> pay programmers to fix it and make it better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:47 PM brynn <brynn@...3089...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Some developers may remember a message I posted to the mailing >>>>>>> lists some time >>>>>>> ago, maybe a year or 2 ago, asking to have at least some of the >>>>>>> tools set for >>>>>>> Own Style (by default) rather than Last Used, to prevent this kind >>>>>>> of utter >>>>>>> confusion among new users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At first, on the mailing list, some developers sort of hijacked it >>>>>>> into their >>>>>>> own different project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But ultimately (in a bug report) one developer suggested a >>>>>>> reasonable solution. >>>>>>> See this bug report: >>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone else (developers) could chime in on that solution, >>>>>>> perhaps we could >>>>>>> get it coded into one of the next new versions, and prevent this >>>>>>> type of >>>>>>> headache for new users? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much, >>>>>>> brynn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: K B >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:30 PM >>>>>>> To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All I want to do to begin with is draw a simple Line Circle. (white >>>>>>> background >>>>>>> with white inside the circle). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But instead it draws a dashed-rectangle with (4) little squares. >>>>>>> Two squares >>>>>>> are on the rectangle and the other two are outside. So, I go into: >>>>>>> Edit, >>>>>>> Preferences and the Circle it not even listed under Shapes! Crazy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anybody know what I should do? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ken >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>>>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>>>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-user mailing list >> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user