Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

kb, no starch press sells the book, "the book of inkscape, the definitive gude to the free graphics editor" by dmitry kirsanov. he is a core inkscape developer, author and graphic designer, specializing in website and logo design. here's a review. https://wordpress.com/post/wdalford.wordpress.com/5 cheers, dwain On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:53 PM, K B <kmb999@...155...> wrote: > C R: > I guess I was looking to do some real simple basic stuff and came into a > very robust program with many bells and whistles that made it more > complicated > and harder to learn. Wished they had a "Lite version" so I could get up > and running > right away. I am not a professional illustrator, just want to create > fairly simple Line Designs. > > Ken > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:42 AM C R <cajhne@...155...> wrote: > >> We are working hard to make it better and easier and more intuitive to >> use. You can certainly help our efforts by donation to the project - every >> little bit helps. >> >> In the meantime it's probably easier to learn Inkscape's quirks and just >> work around them for now. I've been using Inkscape as a professional >> designer for over 7 years now, and once you get the hang of it, it's not so >> bad. A lot of bugs have been fixed since I first started using it, and lots >> of new features added. Mostly I'm grateful for devs who have helped and >> continue to help solve problems, and help where I can, and for community >> members who help users and make videos on how to use Inkscape. >> >> Your feedback also helps, so thanks for bringing it to our attention! >> >> -C >> >> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 10:27 K B, <kmb999@...155...> wrote: >> >>> Brynn/CR: >>> >>> I agree with you 100%. I can still remember when I first used it; it >>> was >>> so frustrating! It did not preform like you think it would. I also >>> was just trying >>> to use the eraser, but it did not erase part of the image like I >>> thought it would. >>> If I had a lot of extra money, I would probably just start using >>> Adobe's Illustrator. >>> Ken >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:48 AM C R <cajhne@...155...> wrote: >>> >>>> The problem is there is no agreed upon solution. But I think Inkscape >>>> should never draw an invisible object anyway. >>>> >>>> Particularly, >>>> >>>> 1. If both fill and stroke are set to none, Inkscape should resort to >>>> the Inkscape default setting of the bezier tool, which is black and white >>>> without dashed lines. Drawing an invisible shape is an error. >>>> >>>> 2. If the user modifies the line width, and the line is set to "none", >>>> Inkscape should set the colour of the line to the Inkscape default : black. >>>> >>>> I think this is a better solution than setting the default behaviour >>>> of Inkscape to a bad workflow - users should not be getting used to having >>>> to change the colour of the line and stroke each and every time they draw >>>> something. It is not intuitive because when you draw in real life you pick >>>> up a pen which is the colour you want and draw with it until you are done, >>>> then choose another colour when you want a different one. >>>> >>>> >>>> -C >>>> >>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 07:59 K B, <kmb999@...155...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Brynn: >>>>> Thank you for the Link about the Bug fix. Since Inkscape is free, >>>>> maybe the creators >>>>> are not very motivated to fix everything about it ? >>>>> >>>>> If it were a high price program like Adobe Illustrator, there would >>>>> have enough money to >>>>> pay programmers to fix it and make it better. >>>>> >>>>> Ken >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:47 PM brynn <brynn@...3089...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Some developers may remember a message I posted to the mailing lists >>>>>> some time >>>>>> ago, maybe a year or 2 ago, asking to have at least some of the >>>>>> tools set for >>>>>> Own Style (by default) rather than Last Used, to prevent this kind >>>>>> of utter >>>>>> confusion among new users. >>>>>> >>>>>> At first, on the mailing list, some developers sort of hijacked it >>>>>> into their >>>>>> own different project. >>>>>> >>>>>> But ultimately (in a bug report) one developer suggested a >>>>>> reasonable solution. >>>>>> See this bug report: >>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777 >>>>>> >>>>>> If anyone else (developers) could chime in on that solution, perhaps >>>>>> we could >>>>>> get it coded into one of the next new versions, and prevent this >>>>>> type of >>>>>> headache for new users? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much, >>>>>> brynn >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: K B >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:30 PM >>>>>> To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> All I want to do to begin with is draw a simple Line Circle. (white >>>>>> background >>>>>> with white inside the circle). >>>>>> >>>>>> But instead it draws a dashed-rectangle with (4) little squares. >>>>>> Two squares >>>>>> are on the rectangle and the other two are outside. So, I go into: >>>>>> Edit, >>>>>> Preferences and the Circle it not even listed under Shapes! Crazy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anybody know what I should do? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inkscape-user mailing list >>> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-user mailing list >> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user